2100+ Tbred B (? -> yes!) at newegg for 92->101 dollars (1/14/03)

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dpopiz

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I still haven't been able to find a definite answer:
does the k7n2 lock the pci and agp no matter what fsb you use? who is k7n2 and can confirm that the pci and agp are locked at non-standard fsbs?
 

k1114

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Originally posted by: Shimmishim
10 x 166 @ 1.65Vcore

pretty conservative for now...

i'll try higher multiplier and fsb later....

for 8rda+ users:

1. enable h.d.d. smart capability?
2. set agp frequency to auto or 66 mhz?

thanks!

1. disable unless you use hdd monitoring software that requires it
2. 66 mhz (although I dont know why auto would do anything diffrent!)

 

Shimmishim

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1700+ @ 1.833 ghz (11 x 166) @ 1.7V

prime95-ing it right now...

will try 11.5 tomorrow

also: how will i know that the timing for my RAM is too aggressive? what should i use to test my RAM?
 

RaynorWolfcastle

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I get the feeling we're going to be getting a glut of Sudden TBred Death Syndrome in a month or so.... 1.85V and more is A LOT to pump into a .13 micron chip. Look at the Northwoods, anything above 1.7V is playing with fire.

Those are hella nice overclocks but in your place I'd drop the core voltage a bit: I know I'm not comfortable with anything above 1.7V. Maybe I'm just being paranoid *shrug*
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
I get the feeling we're going to be getting a glut of Sudden TBred Death Syndrome in a month or so.... 1.85V and more is A LOT to pump into a .13 micron chip. Look at the Northwoods, anything above 1.7V is playing with fire.

Those are hella nice overclocks but in your place I'd drop the core voltage a bit: I know I'm not comfortable with anything above 1.7V. Maybe I'm just being paranoid *shrug*

Paranoid! Thats why you buy the processors from Newegg with a 1yr replacement warranty

 

Jen

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Originally posted by: BigJ2078
Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
I get the feeling we're going to be getting a glut of Sudden TBred Death Syndrome in a month or so.... 1.85V and more is A LOT to pump into a .13 micron chip. Look at the Northwoods, anything above 1.7V is playing with fire.

Those are hella nice overclocks but in your place I'd drop the core voltage a bit: I know I'm not comfortable with anything above 1.7V. Maybe I'm just being paranoid *shrug*

Paranoid! Thats why you buy the processors from Newegg with a 1yr replacement warranty



I'm waiting to see what happens with these HIGH voltages . I myself havent heard of one dieing yet and have seen many at 1.9 volts without a problem and a few above that. Only time will tell if they do indeed die from to much voltage. I believe if your getting a OEM get the extra 1 yr warranty by then you will probably be selling it to get another upgrade anyways



Jen

 

bbrener

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Q]Originally posted by: BigJ2078

Paranoid! Thats why you buy the processors from Newegg with a 1yr replacement warranty [/quote]

Check Newegg more carefully than that. OEM CPU's have a 30 day, not a one year, warranty!!!!

I quote from their warranty policy:

All items except otherwise mentioned, may be returned within 30 days from the original invoice date for a refund. CPU and memory products must be returned within 7 days from the invoice date for a refund. A return authorization number is required for all returns.15% restocking fee may apply. Additional deduction will be made for CPU to account for current market value. These terms apply to refunds. All items have at least a one year warranty except for OEM CPU's which have a 30 day warranty.


Brian
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: bbrener
Originally posted by: BigJ2078

Paranoid! Thats why you buy the processors from Newegg with a 1yr replacement warranty

Check Newegg more carefully than that. OEM CPU's have a 30 day, not a one year, warranty!!!!

I quote from their warranty policy:

All items except otherwise mentioned, may be returned within 30 days from the original invoice date for a refund. CPU and memory products must be returned within 7 days from the invoice date for a refund. A return authorization number is required for all returns.15% restocking fee may apply. Additional deduction will be made for CPU to account for current market value. These terms apply to refunds. All items have at least a one year warranty except for OEM CPU's which have a 30 day warranty.


Brian

Have you ever bought a processor from Newegg.com? Within the past 6 months, they instituted a policy allowing you to extend your warranty to a year for $5 on the Athlon XP 1700+.


Rip from Step 4 of 5 Checkout Screen:
I want to extend my processor warranty to One Year for $[5]

Please, do some research next time before you spout out false information and possibly discourage people from buying these chips in attempts to overclock them. :|
 

bbrener

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Originally posted by: BigJ2078
Originally posted by: bbrener
Originally posted by: BigJ2078

Paranoid! Thats why you buy the processors from Newegg with a 1yr replacement warranty

Check Newegg more carefully than that. OEM CPU's have a 30 day, not a one year, warranty!!!!

I quote from their warranty policy:

All items except otherwise mentioned, may be returned within 30 days from the original invoice date for a refund. CPU and memory products must be returned within 7 days from the invoice date for a refund. A return authorization number is required for all returns.15% restocking fee may apply. Additional deduction will be made for CPU to account for current market value. These terms apply to refunds. All items have at least a one year warranty except for OEM CPU's which have a 30 day warranty.


Brian

Have you ever bought a processor from Newegg.com? Within the past 6 months, they instituted a policy allowing you to extend your warranty to a year for $5 on the Athlon XP 1700+.


Rip from Step 4 of 5 Checkout Screen:
I want to extend my processor warranty to One Year for $[5]

Please, do some research next time before you spout out false information and possibly discourage people from buying these chips in attempts to overclock them. :|


Well, my apologies. I have not bought before and they certainly do not offer that on the 2100+ that I wanted. So if it is only the 1700+, I could not deduce that from the thread. So it is a little misleading.
Thanks for the clarification

Brian
 

arswihart

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Do people here think I could duplicate a 2600+ (166fsb) with one of the 2100+ rev.b's without changing the voltage?

Meaning: 166fsb, 12.5 multiplier = 2075mhz = 2600+

If not, how much voltage increase do you think I'd need?

I'd like to keep it under 1.8v, so as to ensure a decent lifetime.
I have a quiet system with medium cooling abilities, and my hsf is a swiftech mcx370-0A and a thermaltake 6025a-2b fan (4550 rpm, 21 cfm).
 

dpopiz

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geez what's wrong with my crucial pc2100? anytime I oc it at all, it causes no post. I did 166 * (5/6) to get 138 and even that was too high for it! haven't most people been able to get 166 on it?
 

pillage2001

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Anything above 1.8v is not advisable for the Tbred cause you're playing with fire. The 0.13micron is not gonna cut it for too long.
 

BuckNaked

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Well, my apologies. I have not bought before and they certainly do not offer that on the 2100+ that I wanted. So if it is only the 1700+, I could not deduce that from the thread. So it is a little misleading.

I got the 1 year extended warranty on my 2100+ from newegg.... You may have overlooked it during the checkout...

Dave
 

Shimmishim

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Originally posted by: arswihart
Do people here think I could duplicate a 2600+ (166fsb) with one of the 2100+ rev.b's without changing the voltage?

Meaning: 166fsb, 12.5 multiplier = 2075mhz = 2600+

If not, how much voltage increase do you think I'd need?

I'd like to keep it under 1.8v, so as to ensure a decent lifetime.
I have a quiet system with medium cooling abilities, and my hsf is a swiftech mcx370-0A and a thermaltake 6025a-2b fan (4550 rpm, 21 cfm).

dude, you should be able to hit above 2.1 ghz! chizow hit 2.4ish.... people are showing decent o/c's with the 2100+
 

arswihart

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Able to and going to are different things in my case. I'd rather not have to upgrade my processor because it burned out on me.

I record audio with Cubase and so I need stablity, and I'd like the processor to "be able to last" 3 years at least.

I don't think pushing the 2100+ to 2.4ghz would be a good idea for my system, especially since, as I mentioned, I don't like loud cooling solutions, and I don't have a side door fan. I'd like the fsb to be 166 though, so I can get the added bandwidth from my memory, rather than just trying to get the most megahertz as possible by jacking up the multiplier.
 

Shimmishim

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Originally posted by: arswihart
Able to and going to are different things in my case. I'd rather not have to upgrade my processor because it burned out on me.

I record audio with Cubase and so I need stablity, and I'd like the processor to "be able to last" 3 years at least.

I don't think pushing the 2100+ to 2.4ghz would be a good idea for my system, especially since, as I mentioned, I don't like loud cooling solutions, and I don't have a side door fan. I'd like the fsb to be 166 though, so I can get the added bandwidth from my memory, rather than just trying to get the most megahertz as possible by jacking up the multiplier.

loud? why don't you try gettin an slk-800 with a thermalright or thermaltake (don't remember) smart fan 2
 

arswihart

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thats another, what $50? i don't feel like spending any more than i have to, and i'm really not interested in an extra 200-300mhz cpu power (I know you all must think I'm nuts), but I am interested in getting the extra memory bandwidth with a 166 fsb.
 

gc444

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Do people here think I could duplicate a 2600+ (166fsb) with one of the 2100+ rev.b's without changing the voltage?

Meaning: 166fsb, 12.5 multiplier = 2075mhz = 2600+

If not, how much voltage increase do you think I'd need?

I'd like to keep it under 1.8v, so as to ensure a decent lifetime.
I have a quiet system with medium cooling abilities, and my hsf is a swiftech mcx370-0A and a thermaltake 6025a-2b fan (4550 rpm, 21 cfm).


This is exactly where I have mine right now (it actually registers as 2090MHz for some reason) and I am running it at 1.65v completely stable. The cooling I am using is a stock AMD heatsink that came with an old retail XP 2000 with the fan switched to a Vantec 7000 RPM. The chip runs at 43 degrees under full load. I am sure I can get more out of it easy, but I want some better air flow for my case before I try for more.
 

bbrener

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Originally posted by: Buck_Naked
Well, my apologies. I have not bought before and they certainly do not offer that on the 2100+ that I wanted. So if it is only the 1700+, I could not deduce that from the thread. So it is a little misleading.

I got the 1 year extended warranty on my 2100+ from newegg.... You may have overlooked it during the checkout...

Dave

Thanks for pointing this out. Guess you live an learn..
You almost have to go to the very end of checkout. At the time I was not sure it was a Palomino or Tbred. Now that I know they are out of stock. I woud prefer the retail version, biut they don't oeffer ot yet. I will order as soona s they get more stock .. and pay $5.
Thank you very much. That makes an oem much more palatable.
 
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