2100+ Tbred B (? -> yes!) at newegg for 92->101 dollars (1/14/03)

[tbates757]

Originally posted by: AnImuS
Just setup my new rig last night. Jumped on the 2100+ cpu.

8RDA
512MB Samsung 2700
CPU is at 13x180@1.775 38c full load, mem@2.7

Not bad i say : )

Ran Sisoft Sandra burn-in so far for 3hours. I tryed running Prime95 but got an execution error.

I need opinons on wether these voltages look good?
+5v=4.97
+3.3v=2.75
+12v=11.80
-12=12.20

I read that and thought "yeah, that's a pretty decent overclock, then I pulled out the calculator and realized, "oh sh!t. thats 2340mhz."

 

[Shimmishim]

LOL

yeah... it's not a decent overclock... it's a.... holy sh!te overclock...

 

[dpopiz]

w00t I got my chip today finally...but...
there's a problem: I forgot that the multipliers are only unlocked below the factory one, so I have to change fsb to oc. before I change the fsb though, how do I prevent it from affecting the agp and pci speeds? wouldn't it be a big problem if that were to happen? my bios (on MSI K7N2 - nforce2) has an option called "auto-detect pci speed"...does that mean keep the pci fixed at 33MHz?

 

[Guygye]

final verdict, 2.2Ghz stable

 

[pillage2001]

Originally posted by: Guygye
final verdict, 2.2Ghz stable

Only??

 

[Shimmishim]

Originally posted by: Guygye
final verdict, 2.2Ghz stable

are you running a 1700+ or a 2100+?

 

[Guygye]

Yes only 2.23Ghz, and I did say stable, I can go a little more but backed off to keep it safe, I can boot into windows at 2340 but doesn't last very long and I'm running a 2100+ buy the way on an ERDA with Corsair 512 3200 Platinum, memory which is in sync. at 171mhz.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

what about your voltage?

 

[chizow]

Mmmmm.....got a new toy to toss into the OCing mix......

Antec TrueBlue 480 PSU

I kinda had to, after I started adding fans, HDDs and another CC, I started getting cold boots. All gone now Although my temps have gone through the roof now....I was at 120F max (I really need to figure out how to change the Lian-Li's reader to C, even though I'm in the US I'm just used to seeing C now ), now I'm at 142 F. Probably due to the True 480 feeding a consistent 1.9V to the CPU

May try and push it further past 2430mhz. I could boot into Windows past 2500mhz, but I'd always crash after running any benchie for too long......also might have to access the upper multis as I don't know how much further my Samsung can go (@ 187mhz now).

Chiz

 

[Guygye]

I haven't tried anything higher than 1.8 yet, I a little scared to push much past there.

 

[dpopiz]

well I'm having terrible luck here...maybe you guys can help me out:
- first of all, everything's completely stable at normal speeds (133x13), 133MHz DDR
- then I upped the fsb to 166 for 166x13=2150, ~42C and things became a little unstable, and it hung when I tried to run pcmark (ram was set to "auto" in the bios, so I don't know if that means it was at 133 or 166
- anyway, then I decided to try setting the ram manually to 166...that caused it to hang every time on entering the bios or booting and required me to use the "safe mode" jumper to get the fsb and ram back to 100 temporarely

why am I having so many problems? why aren't I getting "2.3 no sweat!"

 

[AnImuS]

Just got done running Sandra for about 6hrs. Cpu is stable at 12x200@1.875
Im surprised my samsung 2700 hit 200FSB @2-3-4-5.
All i can say is this chip ROXS!

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: dpopiz
well I'm having terrible luck here...maybe you guys can help me out:
- first of all, everything's completely stable at normal speeds (133x13), 133MHz DDR
- then I upped the fsb to 166 for 166x13=2150, ~42C and things became a little unstable, and it hung when I tried to run pcmark (ram was set to "auto" in the bios, so I don't know if that means it was at 133 or 166
- anyway, then I decided to try setting the ram manually to 166...that caused it to hang every time on entering the bios or booting and required me to use the "safe mode" jumper to get the fsb and ram back to 100 temporarely

why am I having so many problems? why aren't I getting "2.3 no sweat!"

It can be a lot of things, if your rig in your sig is your current set-up, the first red flag I see is the chipset. You're probably op'ing off a 1/4 PCI and 1/2 PCI divider, so upping the FSB to 166mhz alone is a stress point.

What speed is your Kingmax RAM ram rated? Do you know the speed of the RAM chips themselves in ms? That's another potential bottleneck.

How about your PSU? If you have a voltage/temp monitor recording program, run it while doing benchmarks and see what your rails and temps are doing.

Temps seem OK, but again, I think that board takes its temp readings from underneath the socket which translates to inaccurate actual temps. Also if you are getting a reading from underneath the socket, fast changes in CPU temp will be masked b/c the change in temperature isn't real-time. So you might see a completely normal temp reading right before you crash, but you'll never see the true temp b/c of the lag in heat build-up inherent in socket thermistors.

I'm thinking you might want to access the higher multipliers with that set-up and go for a moderate FSB OC and try to push your multiplier instead. You won't be stressing your RAM and your PCI bus as heavily that way.

Chiz

 

[pillage2001]

Originally posted by: chizow

Originally posted by: dpopiz
well I'm having terrible luck here...maybe you guys can help me out:
- first of all, everything's completely stable at normal speeds (133x13), 133MHz DDR
- then I upped the fsb to 166 for 166x13=2150, ~42C and things became a little unstable, and it hung when I tried to run pcmark (ram was set to "auto" in the bios, so I don't know if that means it was at 133 or 166
- anyway, then I decided to try setting the ram manually to 166...that caused it to hang every time on entering the bios or booting and required me to use the "safe mode" jumper to get the fsb and ram back to 100 temporarely

why am I having so many problems? why aren't I getting "2.3 no sweat!"

It can be a lot of things, if your rig in your sig is your current set-up, the first red flag I see is the chipset. You're probably op'ing off a 1/4 PCI and 1/2 PCI divider, so upping the FSB to 166mhz alone is a stress point.

What speed is your Kingmax RAM ram rated? Do you know the speed of the RAM chips themselves in ms? That's another potential bottleneck.

How about your PSU? If you have a voltage/temp monitor recording program, run it while doing benchmarks and see what your rails and temps are doing.

Temps seem OK, but again, I think that board takes its temp readings from underneath the socket which translates to inaccurate actual temps. Also if you are getting a reading from underneath the socket, fast changes in CPU temp will be masked b/c the change in temperature isn't real-time. So you might see a completely normal temp reading right before you crash, but you'll never see the true temp b/c of the lag in heat build-up inherent in socket thermistors.

I'm thinking you might want to access the higher multipliers with that set-up and go for a moderate FSB OC and try to push your multiplier instead. You won't be stressing your RAM and your PCI bus as heavily that way.

Chiz

It's 1/4 PCi and 1/2 AGP.

 

[dpopiz]

nono the rig in my sig is out of date, I should have told you guys -- my current set up is:
MSI K7N2-L
512mb crucial pc2100
antec true 300w (I have practically no drives or cards in the system, so it's nowhere near being stressed)

 

[majewski9]

SO the consensus is that this thing will 2.2 ghz no sweat?

 

[iguanaman]

"why am I having so many problems? why aren't I getting "2.3 no sweat!"


You probably need to boost your CPU voltage. Set your vcore to 1.85 and try it again.

 

[dpopiz]

ok I'll try that, but I thought I remember reading a few people here getting at least >2GHz on standard vcore, right?

 

[Shimmishim]

okay here i go... hard drive came today..

wish me luck with my 1700+ tbred B!

 

[althes]

I will be picking up one next week, and a slk800, my alpha 6035 is doing ok, but my temps on my 1800tbreda are usually between 43-49c.

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: Shimmishim
okay here i go... hard drive came today..

wish me luck with my 1700+ tbred B!

good luck

 

[bunnyfubbles]

512mb crucial pc2100

As mighty as crucial may have been back in the day, for 133MHz ram to reach 166Mhz is quite a feat to pull off. I'd say that's where your problem might be. You might want to relax the timings on the PC2100 to see of that helps any. You may be able to reach 166Mhz but maybe not at the most agressive timings. Also don't forget to try boosting the voltage on your ram as well.

 

[dpopiz]

well, you guys were exactly right about the vcore. I just raised it to 1.66 and now pcmark doesn't hang. (it was already running around 1.61 by default on this mobo) anyway I still have yet to run a 3dmark loop to check the stability. right now I'm going to try running the ram at 166 and see what I can do. Also, how do I mod the chip to give me multipliers higher than 13?
in any case, even with my "wimpy" oc I'm doing right now, I'm really happy with just getting a 2.15GHz athlon for $100!

 

[gc444]

ok I'll try that, but I thought I remember reading a few people here getting at least >2GHz on standard vcore, right?

I did not try it at the default 1.6, but I am running mine at 12.5x166 (processor shows 2090MHz) at 1.65v. Once I get a better heatsink/fan combo I will go for more.

 

[Shimmishim]

10 x 166 @ 1.65Vcore

pretty conservative for now...

i'll try higher multiplier and fsb later....

for 8rda+ users:

1. enable h.d.d. smart capability?
2. set agp frequency to auto or 66 mhz?

thanks!