22inch or 24inch lcd?

[mcloud777]

I want to upgrade my old Dell 19inch Flat panel to a 22 or 24 size. I need a monitor that is good for online games and FPS games. Right now I am thinking about these models any suggestions?

DELL 2408WFP 24'' $599 dell.com

Samsung 2233RZ 22'' 120hz $429.99 newegg.com might be a bit cheaper at Amazon.com though.

View Sonic 22'' 120hz model $299 at costco.com

View Sonic 24'' $229.00 at costco.com

Dell 24'' s2409W $279.99 at costco.com

Hanns·G HG-281DPB Black 27.5" 3ms Widescreen LCD HDMI Monitor $329.99 at newegg.com

 

[OCGuy]

With a 295?

24 inch for sure.

 

[OCGuy]

edit: dp

 

[DannyLove]

bought me this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824001268

Last year in May. Up to you...

 

[Viper GTS]

With that system a 24" should be the absolute minimum you look at.

Why are you not considering 30" models? I have a Dell 3007WFP-HC + a GTX 295, they work great together.

Viper GTS

 

[mcloud777]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
With that system a 24" should be the absolute minimum you look at.

Why are you not considering 30" models? I have a Dell 3007WFP-HC + a GTX 295, they work great together.

Viper GTS

30'' is a bit too pricey for me right now.

 

[1ManArmY]

GET A 24 INCH and enjoy you won't regret it

 

[wrangler]

Best monitor on that list for FPS games, which you specifically mention, is the true 120Hz monitor from Samsung.

295 will, of course, drive a much bigger monitor but I wouldn't buy a 60Hz monitor for gaming no matter what at this point. You will be able to find uses for that 295 with higher quality settings. I'm just waiting for BenQ to come out with a 120Hz model so I can use their trade up program. I will gladly go down to a 22 from a 24.

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: wrangler
Best monitor on that list for FPS games, which you specifically mention, is the true 120Hz monitor from Samsung.

295 will, of course, drive a much bigger monitor but I wouldn't buy a 60Hz monitor for gaming no matter what at this point. You will be able to find uses for that 295 with higher quality settings. I'm just waiting for BenQ to come out with a 120Hz model so I can use their trade up program. I will gladly go down to a 22 from a 24.

I think I would get a 60Hz VA or IPS panel if price is no object,the better viewing angles and colour could be important ,not everybody needs 120Hz for gaming and far as I know all 120Hz are TN panels.

 

[amdhunter]

I absofrickenlutely heart my SP2309 even if it is a TN panel + you cannot beat Dell's warranty support. (My first one had 1 dead pixel, and the replaced it next day -- no questions asked.)

 

[Grooveriding]

2408, yes it's a lot more expensive. TN monitors are utter crap though. If you can find a store displaying an ips near a TN, it will show you why it's worth it though.

If you can't find a brick and mortar store that sells mva/ips, just go to the Apple store and look at their monitors, then go check out a TN panel.

IPS/MVA is always worth it. :thumbsup:

 

[sao123]

viewsonics monitors are plagued with bad capacitors... 3/3 bad for me within 1-2 years. YMMV

 

[nitromullet]

If you aren't concerned with viewing angles, the HP w2338h is a pretty sweet 23" 1920x1080 TN panel for under $250 (I think Staples has the best deal on it).

Since you obviously have a Costco membership, check out the Vizio 26" screen while you're there. Not a bad screen at all, unless you need 1:1 scaling.

The Dell 2408WFP is the best panel on your list, although it is not perfect...

- It will most likely have the worst input lag of any of the panels you listed. Input lag has never really bothered me, but it does some people.
- I just received my second one from Dell because the first one had some annoying issues with not being able to display text clearly. I'm not the only one to have this complaint about this screen. I haven't had the chance to test out the replacement yet, so I'm not sure if it's a design or quality control issue.

 

[akugami]

Going to a 22" monitor is definitely not worth it. Especially if you were using a non-widescreen 19" monitor. The height of a 19" will feel larger because the height of the screen is actually taller than on a similar size widescreen. Go with the 24" monitor.

As for what is the best, you get what you pay for at times. You can go a tad cheaper but I'm of the opinion that the LCD is one of the biggest investments in a computer. Like the mouse and keyboard, this is a huge part of the user experience. Everything you see on a computer is through your monitor. Getting a good monitor vs a mediocre one may mean better enjoyment for many years to come as opposed to being dissatisfied in a year or two with the monitor's performance.

 

[wchang99]

Originally posted by: akugami
As for what is the best, you get what you pay for at times. You can go a tad cheaper but I'm of the opinion that the LCD is one of the biggest investments in a computer. Like the mouse and keyboard, this is a huge part of the user experience. Everything you see on a computer is through your monitor. Getting a good monitor vs a mediocre one may mean better enjoyment for many years to come as opposed to being dissatisfied in a year or two with the monitor's performance.

I can totally agree with that. Just upgraded from a bad (slightly blown out) 21" CRT to a 22" E-IPS, and the picture quality and res., along with (in the case of that specific monitor) the ability to rotate to portrait mode, are like having a new computer. Such a huge improvement in the overall, GUI experience.

 

[cbn]

If you want a monitor for FPS games I would seriously consider one of those 120 Hz 1680x1050 monitors. (Ask questions, read reviews and see one or two of them in person....especially if you are able to play a game with it)

As far as 1920x1200 monitors go I would greatly prefer one of these myself for general desktop use....but is 1920x1200 really good for FPS?

Sometimes too much resolution might be approaching the law of diminishing returns. I mean there is only so much peripheral vision a person has while playing a FPS right?

On top of that 30% more resolution with the 1920x1200 over the 1680x1050 means Video card choice becomes more critical and that means extra $$$ for diminishing returns in GPU performance.

 

[CyborgCop]

I would definately get the biggest monitor you can. I had a 19 inch TFT.. 4:3.. I think they only had 4:3 on TFT's didn't they? Anyways. Later I got a 21/22 inch Samsung. I'm not quite sure. And yeah it was good to go to that. But honestly. It feels small. Especially now. I've also had a 42 inch plasma sitting right in front of my face as a monitor. And that was too big. lol. Honestly I think somewhere around the 30 range is perfect. You have to consider what your going to be using it for. Why? Well for movies your going to sit farther away. Unless you just like to be close to your monitor and on a little 22 incher .. it's just too small. I would definately not buy a 22 inch monitor that does 1080P. It would be like getting a Lamborghini with a Honda Engine. Thrilling and dull at the same time. However a 22 inch labtop would be awesome. Lately, I've been at my friend's house and he has a viewsonic 28 inch. I just love playing games on it. And I'm sure i sit at least 3 or 4 feet away.. But, with my 22 inch I probably sit 2 or 3 feet away. You can just see so much more detail on a larger monitor. And plus if your just going to upgrade anyways down the line it just makes sense to go ahead and get it now. Sure new technologies will be coming out. But I think the time to go up to that range is good now. There is a 30 incher from Hanns-G on Newegg for like $350. And it has great reviews. Just know that at that size though. Some of the monitors are at 1900 x 1200. And some are at 2500 x 1600. You gotta have some nice hardware for that resolution. I think the 2500 x 1600 is probably overkill. But the monitor won't look it's best unless your running at resolution. Plus it requires that you use a dual link dvi cable. Which from what i hear most of them don't supply. And when you use single link. It automatically reduces your resolution to 1900 x 1200. I think a 22 inch is great for websurfing or documents or a 2nd monitor but not really as a primary.

 

[cbn]

Originally posted by: CyborgCop
I would definately get the biggest monitor you can. I had a 19 inch TFT.. 4:3.. I think they only had 4:3 on TFT's didn't they? Anyways. Later I got a 21/22 inch Samsung. I'm not quite sure. And yeah it was good to go to that. But honestly. It feels small. Especially now. I've also had a 42 inch plasma sitting right in front of my face as a monitor. And that was too big. lol. Honestly I think somewhere around the 30 range is perfect. You have to consider what your going to be using it for. Why? Well for movies your going to sit farther away. Unless you just like to be close to your monitor and on a little 22 incher .. it's just too small. I would definately not buy a 22 inch monitor that does 1080P. It would be like getting a Lamborghini with a Honda Engine. Thrilling and dull at the same time. However a 22 inch labtop would be awesome. Lately, I've been at my friend's house and he has a viewsonic 28 inch. I just love playing games on it. And I'm sure i sit at least 3 or 4 feet away.. But, with my 22 inch I probably sit 2 or 3 feet away. You can just see so much more detail on a larger monitor. And plus if your just going to upgrade anyways down the line it just makes sense to go ahead and get it now. Sure new technologies will be coming out. But I think the time to go up to that range is good now. There is a 30 incher from Hanns-G on Newegg for like $350. And it has great reviews. Just know that at that size though. Some of the monitors are at 1900 x 1200. And some are at 2500 x 1600. You gotta have some nice hardware for that resolution. I think the 2500 x 1600 is probably overkill. But the monitor won't look it's best unless your running at resolution. Plus it requires that you use a dual link dvi cable. Which from what i hear most of them don't supply. And when you use single link. It automatically reduces your resolution to 1900 x 1200. I think a 22 inch is great for websurfing or documents or a 2nd monitor but not really as a primary.

That 27.5" Hanns-G you are talking about is 1920x1200.

It would probably make a good TV/monitor for watching movies....but you like it for playing games also right?

 

[mcloud777]

Well I am really considering the Dell 2408 now, but the A02 revision model can someone tell me why they did a revision?

 

[mcloud777]

Originally posted by: wrangler
Best monitor on that list for FPS games, which you specifically mention, is the true 120Hz monitor from Samsung.

295 will, of course, drive a much bigger monitor but I wouldn't buy a 60Hz monitor for gaming no matter what at this point. You will be able to find uses for that 295 with higher quality settings. I'm just waiting for BenQ to come out with a 120Hz model so I can use their trade up program. I will gladly go down to a 22 from a 24.

Any idea how long until BenQ comes out with the 120hz model?

 

[wrangler]

Actually no. Just a wish on my part. I've done a little looking around for a rumor or anything but.............nada.

I'm just thinking that LG and BenQ aren't gonna let Samsung rule the 120Hz LCD monitor roost for very long.

The 120's really help with blurring and fluidity, especially with games that are heavy on the realisitic vegetation in outdoor scenes like Crysis and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. People say that LCD's don't flicker but when running around outside in one of those games on a 60Hz LCD, the vegetation flickers (blurring/RTC artifacts.........almost like it is pumping light at you) and it is just as nauseating as 60Hz flicker on a CRT. THe effect is much reduced on the 120Hz models.

Plus like another poster said, running 1920x1200 means you have to be careful on video card choice. Lots of people will tell you that a 4890 or 285 is "plenty" for anything out there @ 1920x1200 but I can tell you it is not. If you are willing to run with less than maximum settings and low or no AA, maybe. Now, I AM one of those people who is very sensitive to framerate and the artifacts that LCD technology can produce so..........who knows, you could get a 60Hz 24" and be happy as a pig in S**T. Not me.

I searched locally for a FW900 but could not find one and ended up with my FP241VW which is a nice MVA monitor with low to zero input lag and even has a black frame insertion technique that mimics 120Hz operation.........and it does help..........but not like true 120Hz operation.

 

[mcloud777]

Originally posted by: wrangler
Actually no. Just a wish on my part. I've done a little looking around for a rumor or anything but.............nada.

I'm just thinking that LG and BenQ aren't gonna let Samsung rule the 120Hz LCD monitor roost for very long.

The 120's really help with blurring and fluidity, especially with games that are heavy on the realisitic vegetation in outdoor scenes like Crysis and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. People say that LCD's don't flicker but when running around outside in one of those games on a 60Hz LCD, the vegetation flickers (blurring/RTC artifacts.........almost like it is pumping light at you) and it is just as nauseating as 60Hz flicker on a CRT. THe effect is much reduced on the 120Hz models.

Plus like another poster said, running 1920x1200 means you have to be careful on video card choice. Lots of people will tell you that a 4890 or 285 is "plenty" for anything out there @ 1920x1200 but I can tell you it is not. If you are willing to run with less than maximum settings and low or no AA, maybe. Now, I AM one of those people who is very sensitive to framerate and the artifacts that LCD technology can produce so..........who knows, you could get a 60Hz 24" and be happy as a pig in S**T. Not me.

I searched locally for a FW900 but could not find one and ended up with my FP241VW which is a nice MVA monitor with low to zero input lag and even has a black frame insertion technique that mimics 120Hz operation.........and it does help..........but not like true 120Hz operation.

Would a evga 275 FTW gpu be enough for the 22'' Samsung 120hz monitor?

 

[teatime0315]

Here OP check this out http://forums.slickdeals.net/s...sduid=460427&t=1361583
Dell 2408 for 431

 

[mcloud777]

I ended up getting the Samsung 120hz monitor for $300 brand new on ebay plus $20 shipping cost. Paid $100 less then it sells for new at Amazon.com or Newegg.com.

$320 total cost

 

[mcloud777]

I guess my question now is since my 8800 GTS is getting old what GPU that is out there right now would run FPS games and WoW at max settings with the resolution that this monitor puts out? If there is nothing worth upgrading to right now I can surely wait for DX11 cards.

1680 x 1050 resolution