You know that a scratch disk only comes in use when you run out (or come close to running out) of RAM, right? Using a RAMdisk for scratch is just an extra layer of complication that adds nothing.
I have a program that creates on start-up and saves an image at shutdown.
we'll i'm going to be using the RAM for rendering, 3dwork, game servers, RAMdisks, and maybe a lot of that stuff at the same time... I'm going to be rendering multiple scenes at the same time by using three different 3d programs. I think i'll just stick with the 64Gbs
man, I love you guys... you know when someone is soo stubborn on one point and you guys just accept that.
I haven't dedicated any specific cores to any program on my X79 3970X processor so I don't know if it is possible and if it is then you will only have 6 to spread around rather than the full 8 that AMD gives you. Look into it before you buy.
Two things:
1. Setting tasks to run only on certain processors is a function of software, not hardware.
2. The FX-8350 only 4 cores suitable for floating-point work like renders. The other 4 can only be used for integer operations. The 3970X has 6 cores that can do floating point, and faster cores besides.OK, the FX actually has one floating point unit shared equally between each pair of integer cores, but it is easier to think of it as 4+4.
That very true but my system is worth $11,000.00 and his came in @ $2200.00. When I look at it in this context then I think what he has will be much better than anything I could buy with an Intel system in the same price range.
That's not true at all.
i7 3830K $570
ASRock X79 Extreme6 $220
Crucial DDR3 1600 8GB x4 $220
PowerColor 7970 3GB $380 AR - Crossfire is useless for 3D work
Corsair Neutron GTX 240GB $220
Seagate 2TB 7200 RPM x2 $200 - faster than a 10K drive like a Raptor if you do RAID 0
Corsair 650TX $61 AR AP
Fractal Design R4 $110
Hyper 212+ $30
Total: $2011 AR AP
This system will wipe the floor with any FX-8350 system for 3D rendering.
There are items in your build that I wouldn't touch for love nor money. Seagate drives suck and are unreliable. WD Blacks all the way
ASRock is still a rather new entity and have yet to prove themselves to me. I have the X79 E11 M/B and there are still quite a few glitches in it. The XMP would not let me go above 2133 even though I set it for 2400. I would save and restart and then go back into the bios and it was back to 2133. I have flashed the bios a few times already. It seems like they have a new one every two weeks. The board features are next to none but they haven't got their full act together yet. I will stick to Asus for the time being on important builds. If you put the hardware that I have on an X79 Asus board your prices would skyrocket. The same system I already priced out with and Intel X79 system and it rang in at $400.00 more. When I did some further analysis I found out that the overall performance did not equal the price increase.
By the way having 2 video cards make a tremendous difference in rendering. The amount of available GPU processors speed up all rendering just as the amount of cuda core does the same. Cuda cores = GPU processors. They are essentially the same thing under a different name.
Corsair SSD drives are yesterday's news. The Neutrons are the slowest of the lot. For me now it's Samsung 840 Pro's
For Ram it's G.Skill or nothing. Many people tell me about Corsair Dominator Platinum. For dollar value G.Skill has the exact same timings for 1/2 the price. Corsair sucks in some departments. The ram is way too expensive just for having the name. Their SSD's need a makeover.
PowerColor is the lowest name in Graphics cards. Asus or Sapphire make much better products.
Bought an H80i cooler. Quieter and less interference with the airflow over other components.
Not impressed with the case. I bought a Bitfenix case and put in beefier quiet running fans. Very stylish and has kid proofing lock up for the flash drive / eSata connectors so his kid can't run into a flash drive and break it off. It also locks away the on/off buttons so they can't shut down or reset the system accidentally while he's doing a large render. Nothing sticks out of the case and even the DVD drive locks away so they can't play with it as well. If I put your components in his system it would slow it down a lot.
There are items in your build that I wouldn't touch for love nor money. Seagate drives suck and are unreliable. WD Blacks all the way
What board features could you possibly want? Fan control, overclocking, and so on are all fine. Furthermore, Intel doesn't care at all about RAM speeds past 1600MHz; you are wasting your money and time trying to overclock the RAM, as well as reducing it's lifespan. Asus also has higher RMA rates (and not just within the margin of error, and motherboards are not nearly as fragile as HDDs).ASRock is still a rather new entity and have yet to prove themselves to me. I have the X79 E11 M/B and there are still quite a few glitches in it. The XMP would not let me go above 2133 even though I set it for 2400. I would save and restart and then go back into the bios and it was back to 2133. I have flashed the bios a few times already. It seems like they have a new one every two weeks. The board features are next to none but they haven't got their full act together yet.
Also untrue. The Corsair Neutron and 840 Pro are so much faster than HDDs that any difference between the two is unperceivable.Corsair SSD drives are yesterday's news. The Neutrons are the slowest of the lot. For me now it's Samsung 840 Pro's
You even comparing these at all tells me that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to RAM. Why are you even considering any of those products at all when 1600MHz is all you need to begin with? Also, if you look at return rates, the two very close; if you are going to criticize RAM, you need to criticize both G.Skill and Corsair for being so much worse than Patriot and Crucial.For Ram it's G.Skill or nothing. Many people tell me about Corsair Dominator Platinum. For dollar value G.Skill has the exact same timings for 1/2 the price. Corsair sucks in some departments. The ram is way too expensive just for having the name. Their SSD's need a makeover.
Except that they cost more for the same performance.PowerColor is the lowest name in Graphics cards. Asus or Sapphire make much better products.
Which does not even merit consideration over the stock C2D cooler for quietness, while also costing $90 more. Plus, no aftermarket cooler is even necessary without an overclock.Bought an H80i cooler. Quieter and less interference with the airflow over other components.
Well, aside from you having to grab extra fans, look at this review, in which the R4 outperforms the Bitfenix XL in every metric. Besides which, there is a door on the R4 which locks, you can manually unplug or disable the on/off switch, and honestly, you can't criticize a case you haven't owned when every review says otherwise.Not impressed with the case. I bought a Bitfenix case and put in beefier quiet running fans. Very stylish and has kid proofing lock up for the flash drive / eSata connectors so his kid can't run into a flash drive and break it off. It also locks away the on/off buttons so they can't shut down or reset the system accidentally while he's doing a large render. Nothing sticks out of the case and even the DVD drive locks away so they can't play with it as well.
I think we can all see why this is untrue. Not to mention that a system with 2 7970s and an H80i would be far more.If I put your components in his system it would slow it down a lot.
Untrue. Their returns rates are nearly equal (within the a margin of error). The shipping probably has more to do with reliability. Plus, Seagate came to the market with 1TB platters first, which are definitively more reliable than the Nx500GB platters that WD uses.
What board features could you possibly want? Fan control, overclocking, and so on are all fine. Furthermore, Intel doesn't care at all about RAM speeds past 1600MHz; you are wasting your money and time trying to overclock the RAM, as well as reducing it's lifespan. Asus also has higher RMA rates (and not just within the margin of error, and motherboards are not nearly as fragile as HDDs).
Also untrue. The Corsair Neutron and 840 Pro are so much faster than HDDs that any difference between the two is unperceivable.
You even comparing these at all tells me that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to RAM. Why are you even considering any of those products at all when 1600MHz is all you need to begin with? Also, if you look at return rates, the two very close; if you are going to criticize RAM, you need to criticize both G.Skill and Corsair for being so much worse than Patriot and Crucial.
Except that they cost more for the same performance.
Which does not even merit consideration over the stock C2D cooler for quietness, while also costing $90 more. Plus, no aftermarket cooler is even necessary without an overclock.
Well, aside from you having to grab extra fans, look at this review, in which the R4 outperforms the Bitfenix XL in every metric. Besides which, there is a door on the R4 which locks, you can manually unplug or disable the on/off switch, and honestly, you can't criticize a case you haven't owned when every review says otherwise.
I think we can all see why this is untrue. Not to mention that a system with 2 7970s and an H80i would be far more.
Then why does Seagate only offer a 2 year warranty on all their products while Western Digital Black series offer a 5 Year Warranty.
Probably because you're paying for the cost of the 5-year warranty with the additional drive-cost (~20ish USD) of the Black over the Blue/Green.
15 is not even close to representative though. You can use anecdotal evidence once you've legititmately gone through thousands; until then, I'd rather believe hard numbers aggregated by the actual retailers.
15 is not even close to representative though. You can use anecdotal evidence once you've legititmately gone through thousands; until then, I'd rather believe hard numbers aggregated by the actual retailers.
Those are just my drives and I am not including any I've used in other builds. If I include them as well then it must be closer to 200 HDD's and I haven't ever heard from someone complaining from a failed one yet.
What I do know is that WD puts the exact date of when the drive was built on the drive itself. If it fails you don't need proof of receipt to replace them. I'm not sure what Seagate asks for because I don't use them.
This is mostly untrue. Many applications do benefit--but typically only on the order of 1% or so. You're much better off spending your money somewhere else, particularly since getting 2400MHz basically doubles the cost of the RAM.The Ram I buy is specifically clocked to run @ 2400 10-12-12-31. Around 4-5 years ago that may have been true about Ram speeds but it is becoming more prevalent in today's society and even the software is being designed to take full advantage of higher speed ram modules.
This is valid in theory, but when you look at the actual impact of the SSD speed, there is so little difference that it doesn't matter. As long as you get a modern SSD, the difference is imperceptible except in synthetic benchmarks.When I buy a SSD I compare them to other SSD's before buying them.
Wow, this is so untrue I don't even know where to start. Some have very specific needs like high RAM and many cores, but not much CPU speed; other need CUDA cores, the needs go on and on, but overclocking is NOT the sole purpose to a custom build.The whole purpose of building custom systems relies on the ability to O/C the components. If I never plan to O/C then why build custom in the first place. You can just pick up a mass produced system for much less.
Then why did you present the Bitfenix case as outright superior? You say you were "not impressed" despite the fact that the R4 beats the Shinobi XL in every acoustic and thermal metric, and offers the same, if not more functionality due to the added fan controller. You cannot call one case "unimpressive" and then come back and say "it is a personal choice". That is a twist of logic there that I do not follow.Computer cases are a personal choice that I leave up to the buyer. I will make sure that the components will fit and also ensure adequate ventilation for good flow trough within the case. That is why in a medium over clocked system I will change out a few fans for better quality ones to improve on the overall flow through. I am also restricted by personal choices and some want bling and some want plain black. I offer the full list of options and they pick what they like.
Your build (following your own brand preferences and parts list from above):I am including the exact same components within your build list. I add the different options to both lists and see the whole picture price-wise. Yours still comes out more expensive than mine when adding the extra options to your list as well. That is why I am saying that your build with mu components list is roughly $400.00 more for an equivalent system using your Intel board and CPU
Probably because you're paying for the cost of the 5-year warranty with the additional drive-cost (~20ish USD) of the Black over the Blue/Green.