Originally posted by: NKSRoadKill
craigslist is the best place to find one local.
there have been several here in phoenix listed.
Originally posted by: NKSRoadKill
mine was $190 and i bought it from a computer place here and it had a guarantee.
Originally posted by: rbV5
Anyone do business with Azatech.com? They have an "A" grade A7217A that looks tempting. Its the HP rather than the Sony, however, I believe they are the same unit?
Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
omg 1920x1200 @98hz.. i love it.. but its soo heavy
Originally posted by: Creig
Originally posted by: rbV5
Anyone do business with Azatech.com? They have an "A" grade A7217A that looks tempting. Its the HP rather than the Sony, however, I believe they are the same unit?
The largest thread I've seen on the FW900/A7217A is over on Hardforums. I think a few of the people bought theirs from Azatek, but it might take you awhile to read through the entire thread to find them.
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=952788
And yes, they are the same monitor with just the case color being different.
Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
How would I best configure this screen to work with my 360?
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Fvcking scratch on my monitor is going to make me broke at this rate.
What's the difference between the HP OEM and the Original Sony? Just case appearance?
(I didn't want to look at the pages too long)
EDIT: yeah, specs look the same exactly...
Man... why shouldn't I get this?
92 pounds though... well... certainly a lot lighter than the 36" wega was.
Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
How would I best configure this screen to work with my 360?
Originally posted by: T2k
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Great monitor but it was a monster, consumed a LOT of power, killed my eyes - 1920 or 2048@80-85Hz isn't too good - and made me tired after several hours, much more than an LCD. I used it together with m,y current 24" Dell 2405FPW and tthe Dell was much better for health, for my eyes, let alone my ConEd bills.
Great monitor but its time has passed, I believe (unless you need a 24" or bigger one, calibrated color precisity).
Nonsense if you're a gamer ..the 2405FPW suffers from deal breaking input lag ,poor viewing angles and you're stuck at its native 1920x1200 for gaming. Pass
Power consumption on CRTs is overated ,you wouldnt actually notice any substantial differance on your power bill from month to month thats for sure.
1920x1200 @ 98hz is the recommended res for this monitor but being a CRT you can run it at whatever res you want without worry of image degration. "1920x2048" is not a resolution used by this monitor ..or any for that matter, but 2304x1440@80hz is its max setting.
I guess it depends on the person but ive never had eyestrain issues with my CRTs as long as I run at least 85hz.
Originally posted by: JRW
Originally posted by: T2k
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Great monitor but it was a monster, consumed a LOT of power, killed my eyes - 1920 or 2048@80-85Hz isn't too good - and made me tired after several hours, much more than an LCD. I used it together with m,y current 24" Dell 2405FPW and tthe Dell was much better for health, for my eyes, let alone my ConEd bills.
Great monitor but its time has passed, I believe (unless you need a 24" or bigger one, calibrated color precisity).
Nonsense if you're a gamer ..the 2405FPW suffers from deal breaking input lag ,poor viewing angles and you're stuck at its native 1920x1200 for gaming. Pass
Power consumption on CRTs is overated ,you wouldnt actually notice any substantial differance on your power bill from month to month thats for sure.
1920x1200 @ 98hz is the recommended res for this monitor but being a CRT you can run it at whatever res you want without worry of image degration. "1920x2048" is not a resolution used by this monitor ..or any for that matter, but 2304x1440@80hz is its max setting.
I guess it depends on the person but ive never had eyestrain issues with my CRTs as long as I run at least 85hz.
i've never had eye strain fron crt's either and i've been a aerospace ecad designer for over 24 years and playing computer games for longer.
Originally posted by: JRW
Originally posted by: T2k
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Great monitor but it was a monster, consumed a LOT of power, killed my eyes - 1920 or 2048@80-85Hz isn't too good - and made me tired after several hours, much more than an LCD. I used it together with m,y current 24" Dell 2405FPW and tthe Dell was much better for health, for my eyes, let alone my ConEd bills.
Great monitor but its time has passed, I believe (unless you need a 24" or bigger one, calibrated color precisity).
Nonsense if you're a gamer ..the 2405FPW suffers from deal breaking input lag ,
... which is not true at all, I always laighed on those threads. :disgust:
FYI: I happily beat the ****** out of you in UT2k4 anytime.
poor viewing angles
Umm since when anybody plays outside of, say 90-120 degrees? Because within that range there's no difference between the two - you have to want to play from the side of your CRT to be able to overcome the 2405FPW...
I can tell you never had the 2405FPW side-by-side to this 24" CRT like I had them for a year.
and you're stuck at its native 1920x1200 for gaming. Pass
Jees, another nice one. Who's telling you these funny things...? Why would I be?
Power consumption on CRTs is overated ,you wouldnt actually notice any substantial differance on your power bill from month to month thats for sure.
Now this is quite an obvious BS, frankly. Do you actually have these monitor, including the Dell one or only the CRT or even that only exists in your sig? I had this monitor (HP A7217A) for 3 years or so, my friend and I DID notice when I sold it.
You're either already paying several hundreds for electricity or you are just a weekend gamer - this 24" CRT consumes somewhere between 100-200W when it's on. Compare it to my 24" LCD's ~60W load consumption. Numbers are telling, no matter you don't like them.
1920x1200 @ 98hz is the recommended res for this monitor but being a CRT you can run it at whatever res you want without worry of image degration. "1920x2048" is not a resolution used by this monitor ..or any for that matter, but 2304x1440@80hz is its max setting.
None of the half dozen (both Sony and HP) I've ever seen was 100% sharp at resolutions over 2048.
This CRT is actually designed for 1920x1200 otherwise its sharpness won't be any better than an LCD but rather worse. Colorwise always better but that's a niche requirement.
I guess it depends on the person but ive never had eyestrain issues with my CRTs as long as I run at least 85hz.
Raising the tube size/resolution you have to raise the refresh rate if you want to avoid flickering. 85Hz is not really ideal from 1920 and up - in fact it's maybe "OK" at 1600/1920 but certainly not ideal.
Originally posted by: NKSRoadKill
Originally posted by: JRW
Originally posted by: T2k
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Great monitor but it was a monster, consumed a LOT of power, killed my eyes - 1920 or 2048@80-85Hz isn't too good - and made me tired after several hours, much more than an LCD. I used it together with m,y current 24" Dell 2405FPW and tthe Dell was much better for health, for my eyes, let alone my ConEd bills.
Great monitor but its time has passed, I believe (unless you need a 24" or bigger one, calibrated color precisity).
Nonsense if you're a gamer ..the 2405FPW suffers from deal breaking input lag ,poor viewing angles and you're stuck at its native 1920x1200 for gaming. Pass
Power consumption on CRTs is overated ,you wouldnt actually notice any substantial differance on your power bill from month to month thats for sure.
1920x1200 @ 98hz is the recommended res for this monitor but being a CRT you can run it at whatever res you want without worry of image degration. "1920x2048" is not a resolution used by this monitor ..or any for that matter, but 2304x1440@80hz is its max setting.
I guess it depends on the person but ive never had eyestrain issues with my CRTs as long as I run at least 85hz.
i've never had eye strain fron crt's either and i've been a aerospace ecad designer for over 24 years
About one-third of my bigger family are CAD engs - including my brother - and *everybody* always complained about CRTs.
BTW my CAD eng/designer friends all have eyeglasses.
and playing computer games for longer.
Tsk tsk tsk... and what did you play in the seventies for long hours?
Originally posted by: T2k
Originally posted by: JRW
Originally posted by: T2k
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Great monitor but it was a monster, consumed a LOT of power, killed my eyes - 1920 or 2048@80-85Hz isn't too good - and made me tired after several hours, much more than an LCD. I used it together with m,y current 24" Dell 2405FPW and tthe Dell was much better for health, for my eyes, let alone my ConEd bills.
Great monitor but its time has passed, I believe (unless you need a 24" or bigger one, calibrated color precisity).
Nonsense if you're a gamer ..the 2405FPW suffers from deal breaking input lag ,
... which is not true at all, I always laighed on those threads. :disgust:
FYI: I happily beat the ****** out of you in UT2k4 anytime.
poor viewing angles
Umm since when anybody plays outside of, say 90-120 degrees? Because within that range there's no difference between the two - you have to want to play from the side of your CRT to be able to overcome the 2405FPW...
I can tell you never had the 2405FPW side-by-side to this 24" CRT like I had them for a year.
and you're stuck at its native 1920x1200 for gaming. Pass
Jees, another nice one. Who's telling you these funny things...? Why would I be?
Power consumption on CRTs is overated ,you wouldnt actually notice any substantial differance on your power bill from month to month thats for sure.
Now this is quite an obvious BS, frankly. Do you actually have these monitor, including the Dell one or only the CRT or even that only exists in your sig? I had this monitor (HP A7217A) for 3 years or so, my friend and I DID notice when I sold it.
You're either already paying several hundreds for electricity or you are just a weekend gamer - this 24" CRT consumes somewhere between 100-200W when it's on. Compare it to my 24" LCD's ~60W load consumption. Numbers are telling, no matter you don't like them.
1920x1200 @ 98hz is the recommended res for this monitor but being a CRT you can run it at whatever res you want without worry of image degration. "1920x2048" is not a resolution used by this monitor ..or any for that matter, but 2304x1440@80hz is its max setting.
None of the half dozen (both Sony and HP) I've ever seen was 100% sharp at resolutions over 2048.
This CRT is actually designed for 1920x1200 otherwise its sharpness won't be any better than an LCD but rather worse. Colorwise always better but that's a niche requirement.
I guess it depends on the person but ive never had eyestrain issues with my CRTs as long as I run at least 85hz.
Raising the tube size/resolution you have to raise the refresh rate if you want to avoid flickering. 85Hz is not really ideal from 1920 and up - in fact it's maybe "OK" at 1600/1920 but certainly not ideal.
You're not going to convience me any differantely , I guess it would've helped if I mentioned ive already owned and compared a 2001FP and 2405FPW next to my G520P & FW900 CRT's , Long story short I returned the LCDs .. And if you think the 2405FPW doesnt suffer from input lag you're in denial.. this doesnt mean you cant play games online but you ARE playing with an additional 20-30ms added to your ping.
Unless my UPS is lying to me my FW900 only consumes 90W when its on, If I were to run it at its max contrast setting and stare at a pure white screen all day then it would hit its maximum power load I suppose.
Viewing angles on the 2405fpw required me to look straight at the screen ,any slight head shift would start showing color changes on the screen ..if you're trying to tell me you dont see this ...again ... denial
hmm some thing wrong with your math?Originally posted by: T2k
Tsk tsk tsk... and what did you play in the seventies for long hours?