It's official: Intel shuts down cheap overclocking closing Skylake loophole!

[mysticjbyrd]

It's official: Intel shuts down the cheap overclocking party by closing Skylake loophole

"The cheap overclocking party is over. An upcoming microcode update from Intel will close the door on a loophole that let users goose Skylake CPUs that weren't meant to be overclocked."


It's confirmed, Intel is intentionally charging an extra $50 for essentially the same cpu. Intel has also announced they are going to exclusively focus on power efficiency over performance in the future. This is why be desperately need Zen to rebound AMD.

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[waltchan]

It's confirmed, Intel is intentionally charging an extra $50 for essentially the same cpu. Intel has also announced they are going to exclusively focus on power efficiency over performance in the future. This is why be desperately need Zen to rebound AMD.

Well, I guess we're all flocking to Celeron N3050 Braswell right now, and Intel improves it from there to i7.

 

[LTC8K6]

It's official: Intel shuts down the cheap overclocking party by closing Skylake loophole

"The cheap overclocking party is over. An upcoming microcode update from Intel will close the door on a loophole that let users goose Skylake CPUs that weren't meant to be overclocked."


It's confirmed, Intel is intentionally charging an extra $50 for essentially the same cpu. Intel has also announced they are going to exclusively focus on power efficiency over performance in the future. This is why be desperately need Zen to rebound AMD.

It's not good to be so desperate.

It tends to end badly.

 

[Phynaz]

And this needed it's own thread because the discussion in the other wasn't enough?

 

[Phynaz]

It's not good to be so desperate.

It tends to end badly.

:thumbsup:

Strong smell of it in this thread.

 

[mysticjbyrd]

And this needed it's own thread because the discussion in the other wasn't enough?

Correct, because intel's monopolistic practices needs to be highlighted here.

 

[superstition]

And this needed it's own thread because the discussion in the other wasn't enough?

People were very excited about BCLK overclocking. It was going to be the next big thing for the Intel platform, as many saw it.

I don't know what discussion you're referring to anyway. I came to this thread because of the specific subject in the title.

 

[VirtualLarry]

People were very excited about BCLK overclocking. It was going to be the next big thing for the Intel platform, as many saw it.

Yeah, now it offers no advantage to Haswell, really, when price is taken into consideration.

 

[HeXen]

I'm happy enough with i7 performance that some more efficiency would be great for laptops.

 

[Phynaz]

Correct, because intel's monopolistic practices needs to be highlighted here.

This isn't P&N

 

[superstition]

I'm happy enough with i7 performance that some more efficiency would be great for laptops.

I think you meant that for the topic about Intel planning to trade performance for power savings.

This one is about overclocking.

 

[mysticjbyrd]

This isn't P&N

Yet, you still troll....

Pro intel and anti-amd rhetoric.

Please stay on topic.

 

[Phynaz]

Yet, you still troll....

Pro intel and anti-amd rhetoric.

Please stay on topic.

Anti-AMD rhetoric not found in thread. You were the first to mention them.

At least try to be a little bit opaque with your anti-Intel agenda.

 

[Burpo]

"Intel regularly issues updates for our processors which our partners voluntarily incorporate into their BIOS,” an Intel spokesman said. “

People who already have the early overclock flashes are set, so long as they don't update.

 

[VirtualLarry]

"Intel regularly issues updates for our processors which our partners voluntarily incorporate into their BIOS,” an Intel spokesman said. “

People who already have the early overclock flashes are set, so long as they don't update.

...and aren't running Windows 10.

 

[bystander36]

I'm not sure anyone has a right to be upset by this, considering they are not supposed to be overclockable. Sure, you can be disappointed, but you can't really blame Intel for blocking something that was never supposed to be possible.

 

[Phynaz]

Correct, because intel's monopolistic practices needs to be highlighted here.

What's funny is the ADF should be tickled by this. Intel locking down their CPUs would drive more people to AMD, right?

So this monopolistic practice as you call it actually increases market competition by pushing customers to AMD.

 

[Arachnotronic]

What's funny is the ADF should be tickled by this. Intel locking down their CPUs would drive more people to AMD, right?

So this monopolistic practice as you call it actually increases market competition by pushing customers to AMD.

AMD processors are garbage, and that's what irks the ADF so much.

 

[PPB]

Yeah, now it offers no advantage to Haswell, really, when price is taken into consideration.

Haswell just became relevant again with this change in fact. The ability to OC non Z boards on Haswell is still there, and Haswell has some really overbuilt VRM systems on their lower end boards compared to LGA1151.

 

[Ken g6]

I never expected Intel to remove a working feature like this. Usually, removing working features after a product is sold ends in a class-action lawsuit.

 

[Exophase]

It's confirmed, Intel is intentionally charging an extra $50 for essentially the same cpu. Intel has also announced they are going to exclusively focus on power efficiency over performance in the future. This is why be desperately need Zen to rebound AMD.

Intel has charged different amounts for what's physically the same or comparable CPUs for years or perhaps decades. There's probably still some actual featuring binning based on defects and performance binning based on parametrics but certainly not to the extent Intel segments dies.

They've also had all sorts of barriers to overclocking for a very long time, although they've tweaked their exact positioning on this.

Some of these decisions are reasonable tradeoffs, since the people paying premiums on the best SKUs allow the median price to go down, even if the chips could have both been sold as the best.

But Intel basically flip-flopping on something like this looks sloppy at best and it goes a little more anti-consumer than I'd really like.

 

[VirtualLarry]

What's funny is the ADF should be tickled by this. Intel locking down their CPUs would drive more people to AMD, right?

So this monopolistic practice as you call it actually increases market competition by pushing customers to AMD.

I'm pissed off at Intel enough, that I'm debating whether or not to ever buy another Intel CPU again.

I've bought 4x N2830, 7x Z3735F, 4x G3258, 2x G4400, 1x i3-6100, 2x G1820, and 4x G1610.

I've also bought 2x A6-6310 (might be A8-6410), 4x Sempron 3850, and a few FM2 APUs too.

Assuming that AMD is even semi-competitive, I might be forced to go with them, for the near future.

 

[Burpo]

Class action suit? For selling a product that does exactly what it's supposed to do?

Imagine that!

Weird logic to blame intel for the motherboard makers overstepping their boundaries, and releasing hacked bios's.

 

[MrTeal]

I'm not sure anyone has a right to be upset by this, considering they are not supposed to be overclockable. Sure, you can be disappointed, but you can't really blame Intel for blocking something that was never supposed to be possible.

I never expected Intel to remove a working feature like this. Usually, removing working features after a product is sold ends in a class-action lawsuit.

I could see a class action lawsuit if they sneak an update into Win10 that disables it. The BIOS update is a little more of a grey area, since the user initiated that and it says in the notes that it removes Sky OC, but it's still sketchy.

If I bought a new car with a lower end feature package knowing that a couple commands would unlock voice navigation, that would be a YMMV thing on my part. If I got it working and one day when I take it in for an oil change I find the dealer has disabled that, you could bet I'd be raising some hell over it.

 

[Ken g6]

Weird logic to blame intel for the motherboard makers overstepping their boundaries, and releasing hacked bios's.

I didn't say who should get sued in the class-action. Motherboard makers might be more valid targets.