2550k costs more than 2500k!

[pelov]

It's a lot like the 2700K in that it does nothing but offer a worthless and overpriced chip for people who don't know any better. But it's worse in that it actually offers even less and it's even more stripped down...

I'm assuming Intel just regarded this the same way they did the 2600K>2700K, in that a small clock speed bump equates to a relatively healthy profit increase. Trying to justify the price increase isn't possible because it doesn't make any sense.

I really hope this isn't what the future of the desktop CPU market will be like, because this is a pretty big middle finger to the enthusiast. Well done, Intel

 

[exar333]

This is a sham, unless the CPU uses less power AND is able to hit a higher ceiling than the standard 2500K.

If only one of those is true, then you are giving-up something to get something else, and the price should be comperable. If neither are true, this is trully a cash-grab, and should be priced lower than the standard 2500K.

I echo Zap's recommendation, who wants to test one out?

 

[PremiumAcc]

This is a sham, unless the CPU uses less power AND is able to hit a higher ceiling than the standard 2500K.

If only one of those is true, then you are giving-up something to get something else, and the price should be comperable. If neither are true, this is trully a cash-grab, and should be priced lower than the standard 2500K.

I echo Zap's recommendation, who wants to test one out?

Couldn't agree more. Are you offering to buy some on at AT the chip to test?

 

[gorydetails]

show us the benchys,,,

 

[jacktesterson]

Is it a broken 2500k (bad GPU) with the GPU disabled?

 

[Rvenger]

Is it a broken 2500k (bad GPU) with the GPU disabled?

All the arrows point to that, yes.

If they wanted to raise the price,they should of made an i5-2550 non k instead. At least others would benefit from the 100mhz increase. The 100mhz increase is useless if you are going to overclock anyways.

 

[jpeyton]

All the arrows point to that, yes.

Why do you think that? Intel runs the best fabs in the world; their 32nm process is very mature at this point, and I highly doubt they are producing large quantities of bad on-die GPUs at this stage.

They simply disabled the GPU.

 

[Rvenger]

They simply disabled the GPU.

I heard they accumulated all the CPUs with bad GPUs throughout the year and now they released the 2550k to get rid of excess stock. Unfortunately I don't remember the source right now but since I work in an IT environment at a very large company, I tend to hear a lot of info through the grape vine.


If these chips actually had good GPUs, why would they disable it? They are still charging a premium over the 2500k and IMO I think it would be more of an effort (labor) to disable it by laser or microcode then to just release it with the GPU enabled. The motherboard just handles the code to disable the GPU when a dedicated graphics card is present, so it should pose no advantage what so ever on overclocking.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

only $200 @ Microcenter, granted, that's $20 more than the 2500K, not so sure I'd want to mess with it

but I might just take one for the team as I do have P67 motherboard going unused...was just going to wait and plop my 2600K in it when I inevitably upgrade my Z68 to a 3770K...

 

[Zap]

Are you buying me one Zap?


I would bite the bullet but I gotta simmer down on hardware purchases for a while here.

1) No I wouldn't buy you or anyone else one, unless I happened to be at Micro Center and you gave me money to buy one and ship to you (for the cost savings).

2) I probably won't buy myself one either. I've got a spare 2500K already. Besides, I usually buy the cheapest of a type, so out of all the K CPUs I would usually buy the 2500K.

3) Yes I have spares of everything, so I need to cool off my purchases too.

4) I'm actually not even home now. Had to go 2000 miles away due to a family emergency. And yes, I miss my main rig (2600K OC'd, 560ti SLI, 30" 2560x1600, 30/5 internet). My Vostro V131 notebook is... not quite the same.

 

[piasabird]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115230

This is what one of the posters on newegg says:

Basically what Intel is selling is a 2500k with a broken intel HD Graphics 3000. So they disable the graphics and then maybe it will overclock a little better.

You decide.

 

[notty22]

I think the IGP is probably bad also. Which is why they chose a higher price point/tier than the 2500K. They would probably run out of them if they called it a 2400K with 1x multi- lower than the 2500K and say a 20 dollar savings.
A o/cer home builder would loose access to possible use of the gpu / transcoding.

 

[nitromullet]

Why do you think that? Intel runs the best fabs in the world; their 32nm process is very mature at this point, and I highly doubt they are producing large quantities of bad on-die GPUs at this stage.

They simply disabled the GPU.

That doesn't make any sense...

You don't take your best selling product, break ones that are working just fine, and sell them for a higher price. What you do is take ones that are broken, and try to sell them as something similar to your best selling product in the hope that people won't notice or care that part of it is broken.

 

[pelov]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115230

This is what one of the posters on newegg says:

Basically what Intel is selling is a 2500k with a broken intel HD Graphics 3000. So they disable the graphics and then maybe it will overclock a little better.

You decide.

It doesn't work that way. You're essentially doing the same thing by disabling the Intel graphics in the BIOS. If it did, the Athlon 631s would be incredible considering they don't have to carry around those heavy Llano graphics transistors on its back. It turns out that it's not the case and they all have roughly the same ceiling, ~3.6-3.7ghz.

Intel is just selling a neutered chip with a 100mhz clock bump and fewer features at a higher price that's sitting at the same TDP (there's a reason for this) as it's non-neutered brethren.

It's just a case of Intel employing Intel-like behavior. Unless it's a new stepping or they're being binned differently, you're not getting anything but a measly 100mhz bump and a higher asking price.

 

[MustangSVT]

I like how intel guy stopped responding when his "marketing scheme" failed.

hahaha.

 

[PreferLinux]

The IGP in the 2500K will probably consume a small amount of power when the graphics is disabled. It is possible that the 2550K has the IGP physically disabled, preventing it using any power whatsoever. But while saying that, the difference will probably be minimal, and not affect anything.

 

[TakeNoPrisoners]

I like how intel guy stopped responding when his "marketing scheme" failed.

hahaha.

Marketing doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It is for the most part lies.

 

[grkM3]

guys this is intel trying to dump all there left over sandys,they are relabling chips to atract more sales.

even the sandy e's are all 8 core failed xeons and this is just so intel can dump the remaing sandys to get ready for the ivys to launch.

a 2500 and a 2600 is the SAME chip and the hyperthreading and cache are turned off.this is not a bad gpu.its just intel making a new chip to sell and is just an over clocked 2500k with the gpu turned off to get rid of the extra volume they have.

and now that they have said to oems that they will delay ivy to help them push the old sandys it all makes sence.Think about it why would intel release a new chip this late when ivy is around the corner?they are just dumping what they have left.

It could be a failed gpu or what ever but its just intel trying to get rid of leftovers.

 

[nitromullet]

We need to keep this thread alive so people interested in this cpu find it, and don't buy the 2550k. Maybe poor sales will drive Intel to drop the price on it... I'd buy an unlocked, broken gpu SB for $175!

 

[Meaker10]

guys this is intel trying to dump all there left over sandys,they are relabling chips to atract more sales.

even the sandy e's are all 8 core failed xeons and this is just so intel can dump the remaing sandys to get ready for the ivys to launch.

a 2500 and a 2600 is the SAME chip and the hyperthreading and cache are turned off.this is not a bad gpu.its just intel making a new chip to sell and is just an over clocked 2500k with the gpu turned off to get rid of the extra volume they have.

and now that they have said to oems that they will delay ivy to help them push the old sandys it all makes sence.Think about it why would intel release a new chip this late when ivy is around the corner?they are just dumping what they have left.

It could be a failed gpu or what ever but its just intel trying to get rid of leftovers.

4 core sandy-e CPUs are a different core.

 

[God Mode]

Detuning car engines using a restrictive intake manifold or ecu, leaving a few lines of code out of an app to limit functionality, grinding up old fruits into juice, leaving 50 cents worth of components out of a circuit and charging 50% more for a fully populated one... This kind of stuff happens when there is little to no competition to force companies to continously offer tangible benefits.

This behavior is everywhere in every market but charging more and naming it as if it's newer or better is just bleh. We care because this is a tech site where enthusiasts are aware. They should've lowered the clock speed 100mhz instead and called it a 2450K or something.

 

[grkM3]

4 core sandy-e CPUs are a different core.

Links please,this is the first Iv heard of this and if you have a link to the die shot that would be clutch

 

[notty22]

Links please,this is the first Iv heard of this and if you have a link to the die shot that would be clutch

Intel Core i7 3820 Review: $285 Quad-Core Sandy Bridge E

The Core i7 3820 is the first (and only) quad-core Sandy Bridge E CPU. It's so new that the chip isn't even available for sale nor will it be until early 2012. Unlike the relationship between the 3960X and 3930K, the 3820 is an entirely new die.
The chip features four Sandy Bridge cores and is paired with a 10MB L3 cache, giving it a slight advantage over the highest end LGA-1155 Sandy Bridge CPUs on the market today. The result is a die that's bigger than a regular SNB but significantly smaller than a 6-core SNB-E:

 

[(sic)Klown12]

According to what you're posting, the core is the same as other S.B. processors, but the total die space compared to other quad-core S.B. is larger due to more L3 cache.

Now if you're using the term "core" to refer to the total CPU itself then please disregard.

 

[PremiumAcc]

Let us get back on topic with the 2550k.