256mb Radeon X1900XT vs 512mb 7900GTO

rawr1234

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What do you guys think is the best bang for the buck ? as I hear the 7900GTO is just a 7900gtx underclocked and it comes with 512mb ram (better for vista & future games then 256mb) it is a tad slower then the X1900XT at stock speeds (a few fps) but can be easily clocked to 7900GTX speeds

how much power does this beast consume however ? Why hasnt Anandtech done any reviews on the 7900GTO ?

both cards are around $250
 

CaiNaM

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performance is comparable; each would have their share of slight wins depending on game (oblivion seems to be the exception, favoring ati in outdoor areas where fps is most important).

you will get substantially better texture filtering with that x1900; slightly better AA on alpha textures with the 7900. having had both i favor the overall image quality of the ATI by a fair margin.

if power consumption and noise are a concern, power would favor nvidia by a fair margin, and i would speculate noise would favor the 7900 as well (i only speculate as i haven't heard the fan on the GTO, but the GT fan was rather noisy). nvidia also has a smaller profile, which may be important if you have little room in your case.

if you plan on going dual cards at a later date, SLI is the more mature solution between the two, however both SLI and Crossfire work decently, but SLI is the more 'elegant' solution (editable profiles, no dongle, no master/slave).

i stuck with the ATI as image quality and performance are the major factors (after all we spend 100% of the use of a video card staring at the screen), while the points that favor nvidia are less important to me personally.

if you're not one who really scrutinizes such things (an example would be my wife, who thinks WoW looks better on my system, but she's perfectly happy with how WoW looks on hers (7800GS), even when running in (ugh) performance mode. heh.. to each their own, I guess), you'd likely be happy with either.

 

rawr1234

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i already beat oblivion no point in giveing the video card more points for a game I already beat and am never going to touch agian if they hadnt gotten rid of the 512mb version of the X1900XT i might have gotten that but the nearest $300 card is the X1900XTX at $360

thats almost $400 which is what the new X1950XTX's cost
 

Rockinacoustic

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Originally posted by: CaiNaM
if power consumption and noise are a concern, power would favor nvidia by a fair margin, and i would speculate noise would favor the 7900 as well (i only speculate as i haven't heard the fan on the GTO, but the GT fan was rather noisy). nvidia also has a smaller profile, which may be important if you have little room in your cas

The GTO fan is the same as the GTX. Not only less noise but superior cooling too.
 

rawr1234

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im not sure about the image quality either ... i hear mixed reviews saying both have better quality then each other but no side by side screenshots which is why a review would be useful

something to think about next time you guys do your buying guides since the two are nearly the same performance wise they both have their strengths and weaknesses
 

firewolfsm

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Originally posted by: CaiNaM
performance is comparable; each would have their share of slight wins depending on game (oblivion seems to be the exception, favoring ati in outdoor areas where fps is most important).

you will get substantially better texture filtering with that x1900; slightly better AA on alpha textures with the 7900. having had both i favor the overall image quality of the ATI by a fair margin.

if power consumption and noise are a concern, power would favor nvidia by a fair margin, and i would speculate noise would favor the 7900 as well (i only speculate as i haven't heard the fan on the GTO, but the GT fan was rather noisy). nvidia also has a smaller profile, which may be important if you have little room in your case.

if you plan on going dual cards at a later date, SLI is the more mature solution between the two, however both SLI and Crossfire work decently, but SLI is the more 'elegant' solution (editable profiles, no dongle, no master/slave).

i stuck with the ATI as image quality and performance are the major factors (after all we spend 100% of the use of a video card staring at the screen), while the points that favor nvidia are less important to me personally.

if you're not one who really scrutinizes such things (an example would be my wife, who thinks WoW looks better on my system, but she's perfectly happy with how WoW looks on hers (7800GS), even when running in (ugh) performance mode. heh.. to each their own, I guess), you'd likely be happy with either.


Perfect, except that the 7900GTO cooler is almost silent, one of the best coolers out there.
 

Matt2

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X1900 > 7900 in terms of image quality.

The difference is not as huge as a lot of people will make you think, but it is there. It really comes down to personal preference.
 

Munky

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Angle-independent AF on the x1900 series IS better than the old-skool AF on the 7-series. That's not a subjective matter, unless one happens to be a fanboy in denial.
 

rawr1234

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thanks for clearing that up im upgradeing from a 6600gt agp so i wouldnt know how the two look side by side in an image quality comparison

Edit: Yes I made the switch to PCI-E with an E6600
 

CaiNaM

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Originally posted by: rawr1234
im not sure about the image quality either ... i hear mixed reviews saying both have better quality then each other but no side by side screenshots which is why a review would be useful

something to think about next time you guys do your buying guides since the two are nearly the same performance wise they both have their strengths and weaknesses

i don't think you can judge the differences with screenshots. aside from the fact that the image looks alot different in motion, the screenshot is being displayed on another system/graphics card, so subtleties in color, etc. are not reproduced.

the difference HQAF is quite noticeable in static shots, but imo it's even more dramatic in motion. while i suppose this will vary depending on one's tastes tho, to deny a difference would be a lie.

still, you really need to see them side by side to make an accurate judgement.

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic
Originally posted by: CaiNaM
if power consumption and noise are a concern, power would favor nvidia by a fair margin, and i would speculate noise would favor the 7900 as well (i only speculate as i haven't heard the fan on the GTO, but the GT fan was rather noisy). nvidia also has a smaller profile, which may be important if you have little room in your cas

The GTO fan is the same as the GTX. Not only less noise but superior cooling too.

ahh.. okay. score another for the GTO then, the GTX fan is nice.

take 1 away also (not nearly as important tho) as what i stated about the size would not apply - they both take 2 slots. i would much rather give up the slot for the superior cooler tho.
 

the Chase

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Sit back and wait until you find a great deal on either one- be it a one day sale or mail in rebate(cross your t's and dot your i's on the MIR) and let that be the deciding factor on which to get.
 

lopri

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Get an X1900XT 512MB. You should still be able to find them around $300.
 

Ike0069

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Definitely go with the 7900GTO. I got my X1900XT 512 for $297 right after the 1950 and 7950 came out, but I wish I would have waited and got the GTO. Of course at that time no knew a GTO was going to be released, but it's still a much better deal IMO. Sure the X1900XT might be slightly faster overall; but as much power as the 1900 draws, it should be a hell of alot faster than it actually is.

X1900XT/XTX:
Too hot
Too loud
Too much power draw

7900GTO:
The perfect price/performance card
 

Maximilian

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Originally posted by: Ike0069
Definitely go with the 7900GTO. I got my X1900XT 512 for $297 right after the 1950 and 7950 came out, but I wish I would have waited and got the GTO. Of course at that time no knew a GTO was going to be released, but it's still a much better deal IMO. Sure the X1900XT might be slightly faster overall; but as much power as the 1900 draws, it should be a hell of alot faster than it actually is.

X1900XT/XTX:
Too hot
Too loud
Too much power draw

7900GTO:
The perfect price/performance card


:thumbsup:
 

Trey22

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Originally posted by: lopri
Get an X1900XT 512MB. You should still be able to find them around $300.

Or $250 shipped, albeit used. That's how I got mine.
 

VooDooAddict

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Really, you can't go wrong with either. They are both about as good a GPU as you can get for the $$. Both should last well through the first generation of DX10 cards and get you to the first refresh of DX10 gards.

X1900XT 256MB - Better raw shader performance.
7900GTO 512MB - Better raw fill rates and more ram.

For the long haul I'd go with the 7900GTO ... if you get the eVGA you'll also have the chance at the step-up program for when the 8800GTXs hit.
 

acegazda

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Originally posted by: Ike0069
Definitely go with the 7900GTO. I got my X1900XT 512 for $297 right after the 1950 and 7950 came out, but I wish I would have waited and got the GTO. Of course at that time no knew a GTO was going to be released, but it's still a much better deal IMO. Sure the X1900XT might be slightly faster overall; but as much power as the 1900 draws, it should be a hell of alot faster than it actually is.

X1900XT/XTX:
Too hot
Too loud
Too much power draw

7900GTO:
The perfect price/performance card

what says you of the memory chip overheating and overall crappiness?
I think the x1900xt is th more powerful card, by a hair, but if nvidia can actually use the same mem chips, not overstocked binned ones, then the 7900gto is the better value with a far superior cooler.
 

Ichigo

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Originally posted by: Ike0069
Definitely go with the 7900GTO. I got my X1900XT 512 for $297 right after the 1950 and 7950 came out, but I wish I would have waited and got the GTO. Of course at that time no knew a GTO was going to be released, but it's still a much better deal IMO. Sure the X1900XT might be slightly faster overall; but as much power as the 1900 draws, it should be a hell of alot faster than it actually is.

X1900XT/XTX:
Too hot
Too loud
Too much power draw

7900GTO:
The perfect price/performance card

Heat/noise/power consumption have nothing to do with price/performance. I woul say that X1900XT/XTX is the better price/performance, though it does lose out on the points that you mentioned.
 

Matt2

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Originally posted by: munky
Angle-independent AF on the x1900 series IS better than the old-skool AF on the 7-series. That's not a subjective matter, unless one happens to be a fanboy in denial.

I hope that wasnt directed at me munky.

I clearly stated that ATI's image quality was better than Nvidia's. I do however believe there are others (including me) who dont see the huge jaw dropping difference as you do.
 

Elfear

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Originally posted by: Ike0069
Definitely go with the 7900GTO. I got my X1900XT 512 for $297 right after the 1950 and 7950 came out, but I wish I would have waited and got the GTO. Of course at that time no knew a GTO was going to be released, but it's still a much better deal IMO. Sure the X1900XT might be slightly faster overall; but as much power as the 1900 draws, it should be a hell of alot faster than it actually is.

Not according to the reviews we have out. 7900GTO vs. X1900XT and others Especially if you're referring to the 512MB version in your statement. It really spanks the 7900GTO.


X1900XT/XTX:
Too hot
Too loud
Too much power draw

7900GTO:
The perfect price/performance card


Hmmm. Would you mind elaborating a bit on those points?

Too hot- If you mean too hot for a lot of overclocking than you're partially right. I've tried four X1900XT(X)'s and all have oced fairly well on the stock coolers. Does it run hotter than the 7900GTO? Yes. Does it run to hot to function correctly? No. In fact, it only runs about 10C higher than what a lot of 7900GTX owners are reporting (a 7900GTO would obviously run cooler still if left at stock speeds).

Too loud- This is correct for about 2 seconds on start up or if your case has extremely poor ventilation. None of the cards I used were bothersome, even during gaming. It is louder than the GTX cooler for sure but it's not that bad.

Too much power draw- Well, at stock the XT probably draws about 40W more than the GTO. If you ran your machine 24/7 for a month and at full load, you'd expect to pay an extra $2.88 by going with an X1900XT. Come on now, is that really a consideration?

If you're going for the "You have to pay extra money for a PSU" arguement, well that has a small amount of validity but any PSU you'd run a 7900GTO off of should be able to run an X1900XT too, unless you're already at the ragged edge of your PSU's capabilities.

I realize that most of what's posted on forums are opinions but I'm getting tired of the weaknesses of the X1900 series cards getting blown way out of proportion. Mountain out of a molehill so they say.
 

Killer4Hire

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I have been studying on buying an upgrade for my 7900GT .. I have looked at all of the cards and did reseach.. I even know that there is hope for a X1900XTX owner trying to cool that card.. there is a cooler that will bring in down in the 38c mark at idle and 50c at load.. but it's not free and will add to the total cost of your investment.. I was almost ready to buy one then the X1950XTX came out.. well it had my vote till last week when i saw the 7900GTO at $250 and it's an eVGA card with step-up program.. i get to overclock the hell out of it and then step right into a G80.. a X1900XTX or X1950XTX can't even do that..

Benchmarks are not all owned by ATI.. the 7900GTX can still pack a punch and IQ means really notting to me because i play COD2 at 800x600 because that is what i learned to play at on my Nvidia MX420 in the day.. I like the 300-400 fps marks to keep the game very smooth and quick when i make a trun and a true FPS doing running and gunning doesn't have much time to stop and look at the IQ of the grass or tree..

My 7900GTO will be here tomorrow and for the ram issues poeple talk of with the G71.. well i have samsung on my 7900GT and it's almost 6-7 months old now and will still hit 590/1742mhz on air cooling.:Q
 
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