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FelixDeCat

Lifer
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Tell me, what gain did Hunter Biden receive from Joe Biden's action to remove the prosecutor? What gain did Joe Biden receive?

There's a lot more to this, but that's the most basic starting point to understand that these situations are markedly different.

First and foremost Hunter got the job when he was not qualified. It was not a low paying job either. He only showed up twice a year to consult, and for that he got $600,000 a year for 5 years. Joe got to keep his kid from being tarnished by the investigation of Burisma.

Case closed.
 
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interchange

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First and foremost Hunter got the job when he was not qualified. It was not a low paying job either. He only showed up twice a year to consult, and for that he got $600,000 a year for 5 years. Joe got to keep his kid from being tarnished by the investigation of Burisma.

Case closed.

What investigation of Burisma?
 
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The point I was making is that the left wingers in the media do not want to discuss Hunter, they only want to hinder Trumps re-election by an means necessary. The paragraphs I listed are not innuendo but examples of the media dimissing news the Bidens underhanded affairs.

So where is the proof so the “left wing” media can pursue it?
There needs to be a shred of proof. Notice how on the Presidents Ukraine call he said I need a favor. Those words determine there is something going on and one can easily argue that is election meddling.
Sorry that major news organizations follow long established practices you disagree with. There are reasons why they are long established.
 
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dank69

Lifer
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Would Hunter have landed these jobs without Dad's name recognition/status? I think not and that's the rub. It stinks but worry not, Joe will be the nominee.
Let's assume what you say is true. Are you jealous or something? Making money off the family name isn't a crime last time I checked. What law do you think was broken or if no law was broken, what new law do you think is needed to prevent this in the future?
 
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Can't he ever catch a break? First he had to stop getting his $50,000 a month Ukrainian paycheck and now this. Maybe he can get a job at the Clinton foundation.

I do love a good snipe hunt. Where are the bags?
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
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The point I was making is that the left wingers in the media do not want to discuss Hunter, they only want to hinder Trumps re-election by an means necessary. The paragraphs I listed are not innuendo but examples of the media dimissing news the Bidens underhanded affairs.
Why discuss a lie and a misrepresentation of the truth? That is a wastre of time!! To discuss Hunter would require posting a truthful factual link that there was an issue with Hunter!
 

Hayabusa Rider

Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
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You are correct. Since Hunter already admitted to working for the Ukrainians for $50,000 per month faith is not required. He got the job because of his dad and he kept it from 2014-2019. The whole affair is pretty shady, but then he goes off and takes money for hedge fund that manages money for the government of China while his dad is in office. So he quit that job too.

Who knows what kind of shady thing that guy will do next, but it tells you alot about Hunter Biden.

Hunter was associated with a firm in the Ukraine. Since you've offered no evidence of criminality, then it's fair to say that there's no demonstrated corruption or illegal action.

Ivanka was granted many trademarks by China and it would be hard to argue that she made less less than 600k, whic is what Hunter earned.

Again you demonstrate nothing that demonstrates corrupt influence. Want to pay the "money made off of a name means criminality"?

Why do you hate the wealthy so much? Donnie was a failure but is still in the came. He didn't have a million loan, he had his father's influence and HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars from Daddy. Ivanka? Absolutely nothing but her daddy's influence.

Then look at the names of the uber wealthy and who sits in a great many top spots, such as the Waltons. Criminals one and all!

Such is what you cling to. Money not criminality is your only factual basis for anything. Names? Well then Trump himself far exceeds anything any of the Bidens might have done. Things people aren't qualified for? That's the Trump dynasty, Ivanka being the prime example. Sent to lead high level diplomatic missions of state? What the hell is that? She doesn't just represent a company or brand or even a name, but the citizens of the United States of America and I am one of those. Neoptism? Holy cow nothing tops that in the history of the US and it is her and her family establishing themselves as being more important than you, I and the rest of us by choosing family over ability.

That's atrocious and nothing you suggest comes to the level of enormity that the family of Trump has forced upon America.
 
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Hunter was associated with a firm in the Ukraine. Since you've offered no evidence of criminality, then it's fair to say that there's no demonstrated corruption or illegal action.

Ivanka was granted many trademarks by China and it would be hard to argue that she made less less than 600k, whic is what Hunter earned.

Again you demonstrate nothing that demonstrates corrupt influence. Want to pay the "money made off of a name means criminality"?

Why do you hate the wealthy so much? Donnie was a failure but is still in the came. He didn't have a million loan, he had his father's influence and HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars from Daddy. Ivanka? Absolutely nothing but her daddy's influence.

Then look at the names of the uber wealthy and who sits in a great many top spots, such as the Waltons. Criminals one and all!

Such is what you cling to. Money not criminality is your only factual basis for anything. Names? Well then Trump himself far exceeds anything any of the Bidens might have done. Things people aren't qualified for? That's the Trump dynasty, Ivanka being the prime example. Sent to lead high level diplomatic missions of state? What the hell is that? She doesn't just represent a company or brand or even a name, but the citizens of the United States of America and I am one of those. Neoptism? Holy cow nothing tops that in the history of the US and it is her and her family establishing themselves as being more important than you, I and the rest of us by choosing family over ability.

That's atrocious and nothing you suggest comes to the level of enormity that the family of Trump has forced upon America.

Well said, let’s not forget the Kushner property bailed out with Saudi money and......wait for it.......

Joe Biden is not the fucking President, he’s not holding any public office at the moment.
 
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The President is such an ethical shit show it’s easy to waive off OP or any Russian Trolls.
Everyone knows this even the MAGA people know this, only people who don’t appear to know this are the deplorable’s
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
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So what I get from this thread is that a guy who isnt standing for president is a lot less corrupt than the guy that's standing for reelection as president.
So all I can think is that OP is saying that you guys shouldn't vote for either of those two.
 
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Jhhnn

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Trump got busted strong arming Ukraine into providing him dirt on the Bidens, which was a blatantly illegal thing to do. It's also disgraceful to use his office in such a fashion. The whistle blower complaint Trump attempted to quash brought that to light & the White House transcript corroborates it. Rudy corroborates it. Others have done so as well.

Trump knew it was illegal all along but Laws are for other people. Everybody & their dog from the FEC, FBI & his own people, I'm sure, told him so. Hell- he said he'd do it anyway on national TV. He even went further in not just accepting foreign govt campaign help but in soliciting it via extortion.

But, yeh, let's spread conspiracy theory innuendo about the Bidens & claim Trump's purpose is to root out corruption in Ukraine rather than just trying to exploit it.
 
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sportage

Lifer
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Yeah.... of everything that happens to other people like Biden and so on, we must filter that news or i.e. presumed Fox news outrage through the Donald Trump filter.
So Hunter Biden got some girl drunk and gave her a hug, while Donald Trump shot his first wife in the head and buried her body in the back yard.
FOCUS PEOPLE... STAY FOCUSED...
 
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Yeah.... of everything that happens to other people like Biden and so on, we must filter that news or i.e. presumed Fox news outrage through the Donald Trump sifter.
So Hunter Biden got some girl drunk and gave her a hug, while Donald Trump shot his first wife in the head and buried her body in the back yard.
FOCUS PEOPLE... STAY FOCUSED...

WTF????
Donald Trump did not shoot his first wife, come on man you know better than that.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
Jan 6, 2005
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Let's assume what you say is true. Are you jealous or something? Making money off the family name isn't a crime last time I checked. What law do you think was broken or if no law was broken, what new law do you think is needed to prevent this in the future?
It’s quid pro quo. They’re placing the unqualified son of an influential American politician into high paying consulting jobs to curry favor or influence.
 

Jhhnn

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It’s quid pro quo. They’re placing the unqualified son of an influential American politician into high paying consulting jobs to curry favor or influence.

If you want to apply that standard then no progeny of any successful politician could serve on a corporate board anywhere.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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If you want to apply that standard then no progeny of any successful politician could serve on a corporate board anywhere.
That sounds like a good rule of thumb. The only exception would be for kids that have demonstrable expertise beyond their last name.
 
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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
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That sounds like a good rule of thumb. The only exception would be for kids that have demonstrable expertise beyond their last name.

That sounds ridiculous. Corporations have the right to hire board members for whatever reasons they choose. If Hunter Biden's name will open doors for them that doesn't mean using it is corrupt.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Can't he ever catch a break? First he had to stop getting his $50,000 a month Ukrainian paycheck and now this. Maybe he can get a job at the Clinton foundation.
WHO GIVES A SHIT!!!

Trump stole money from a kids cancer charity. That's all needs to be said
 
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