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[dank69]

It’s quid pro quo. They’re placing the unqualified son of an influential American politician into high paying consulting jobs to curry favor or influence.

It isn't quid pro quo unless you can produce evidence of quid pro quo. Hunter went to Yale IIRC and all those guys are one big boy's club sitting on boards doing nothing but siphoning money out of big companies. You have no proof that they hired Hunter to get anything from Joe and you can't name a single thing that Joe could have given them in return.

 

[Starbuck1975]

It isn't quid pro quo unless you can produce evidence of quid pro quo. Hunter went to Yale IIRC and all those guys are one big boy's club sitting on boards doing nothing but siphoning money out of big companies. You have no proof that they hired Hunter to get anything from Joe and you can't name a single thing that Joe could have given them in return.

It is one big boy’s club. What qualifications does Hunter Biden have other than his last name. George W Bush went to Yale too. Lots of people go to Yale. Not all get appointed to the inner circles of international oligarchs.

I am glad Hunter Biden is under scrutiny. If we’re going to lament Trump, we should focus on the excused behaviors that paved the road for him.

 

[pmv]

It is one big boy’s club. What qualifications does Hunter Biden have other than his last name. George W Bush went to Yale too. Lots of people go to Yale. Not all get appointed to the inner circles of international oligarchs.

I am glad Hunter Biden is under scrutiny. If we’re going to lament Trump, we should focus on the excused behaviors that paved the road for him.

There's corruption and there's the everyday working of a bad system. Two different things. I think this article is fair comment, and it's why I am not keen on Biden as a candidate.
It's not about going after individuals, the question is just whether a politician is likely to try and make the system better or worse. Biden is a business-as-usual candidate, which means this sort of thing continuing unchanged.

Hunter Biden is a reminder: Democrats are morally corrupt, too | Hamilton Nolan

I don’t want to hear Democrats pretending that the fact that Biden’s son got a do-nothing $600k per year corporate handout is unremarkable. It is wrong

www.theguardian.com

 

[HomerJS]

First and foremost Hunter got the job when he was not qualified. It was not a low paying job either. He only showed up twice a year to consult, and for that he got $600,000 a year for 5 years. Joe got to keep his kid from being tarnished by the investigation of Burisma.

Case closed.

Ivanka got her job not being qualified because of daddy. So tell us again why your panties are in a bunch??

Besides Trump stole money from a kids cancer charity

 

[1prophet]

WHO GIVES A SHIT!!!

Trump stole money from a kids cancer charity. That's all needs to be said

Those who didn't give a shit in the past or excused the said behavior because that is how business was done, is the main reason you have the Big SHIT in the highest public office today.

Trump didn't make his own road getting where he got, he just figured out how to best navigate the road that was paved by the previous administrations who gave the country to corporations and told themselves and the rest of the country that the wealth will trickle down.

The same corporations that are waving the American flag or promoting some virtue signaling social justice issue will be the first to tell you shut and dribble if their profits are threatened.

If you want see what a person who hides behind the corporate veil usually gives up in the name of profit and promotion, pay attention to the question this teacher asks his students.

What Teaching Ethics in Appalachia Taught Me About Bridging America’s Partisan Divide

There’s a language for talking about hot-button issues. And we’re not learning it.

www.politico.com

 

[Starbuck1975]

Ivanka got her job not being qualified because of daddy. So tell us again why your panties are in a bunch??

Besides Trump stole money from a kids cancer charity

BuTrump. I’m not excusing his kids either.

 

[emperus]

This is Hillary's emails all over. I'm actually mad at this. We have a president who has his children working in the White House whom has financial interests in companies that work all over the world and a President who is using his position to line his pockets and we are talking about Hunter Biden. Democrats do this to themselves. They are going to have to learn the Republicans could care less about living to the same standards and the ideals they purport to believe in.

 

[fskimospy]

So just checking in - we are still at absolutely zero evidence of any illegal conduct, right?

Oh okay. So instead we are afflicted with a bunch of conservatives pretending to be concerned about Hunter Biden’s benefits from nepotism despite showing absolutely zero concern for the obvious nepotism in the Trump family for years.

 

[dank69]

It is one big boy’s club. What qualifications does Hunter Biden have other than his last name. George W Bush went to Yale too. Lots of people go to Yale. Not all get appointed to the inner circles of international oligarchs.

I am glad Hunter Biden is under scrutiny. If we’re going to lament Trump, we should focus on the excused behaviors that paved the road for him.

So again, what law(s) would you enact to prevent a corporate board from hiring their friend from college for a position he is unqualified for just so he can soak that company for a ton of money?

 

[Starbuck1975]

So again, what law(s) would you enact to prevent a corporate board from hiring their friend from college for a position he is unqualified for just so he can soak that company for a ton of money?

Laws simply provide obstacles for the powerful to circumvent. Placing them under the microscope of public scrutiny seems to be working reasonably well.

In Trump’s case, he’s just decided to just Kool Aid man through the laws.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Investment in formerly communist countries had the potential to be very rewarding. Many legitimate western investment firms were attracted by companies that carried a very low price tag, often a fraction of the value of their physical assets. Some of these investors got badly burned, usually by underestimating the depth of the corruption in these countries. Some of them lost everything, some of them were actually placed in physical danger.

See Bill Browder: https://time.com/5340545/bill-browder-vladimir-putin-magnitsky-act-donald-trump/

And some of them played these complicated hand of cards just right and made money for their investors. Players in this game included not just small risk taking investment companies but large conglomerates like Exxon-Mobil.

It is worth noting that many of these investments were in the Russian/Ukraine energy sector. The USA, for a time, encouraged the nurturing of these companies as a route to lessen US dependence on Middle East oil.

And..Well before Trump oozed down the escalator at Trump Tower, people assume that Hunter Biden was doing something different than the things that dozens, if not hundreds, of other American investors were doing. Yes, investment in the international energy sector is a dangerous and often unsavory game but it is a game played by lots of people and encouraged by US policy.

It's funny though..Joe Biden runs for president..THEN all of a sudden what his son was doing overseas, in a very blakmailable country, is suddenly attacked and is front page news. I think we know why.

 

[trenchfoot]

More evidence of Repubs digging up dirt on the opposition because they have to do something about getting rid of all that dirt they buried themselves in.

They can also sling more mud better than anybody else because of all that earthy goop they indulge and luxuriate in of which they can dredge up from that swamp Trump decided to make wider, deeper, stench-ier and oh-my-goodness so much more profitable rather than draining it like he promised he would.

And let's not stray off course and start talking about how Trump and his numerous associates that were/are under his direction that are in jail, are indicted, are being investigated and/or are still cooperating with our gov't. that are all innocent victims of a deep state conspiracy that was contrived and operated by Obama and Hillary and oh yeah, let's add in Biden now that he is a direct threat to Trump's dictatorship.

Mustn't let the former resident's accomplishments overshadow and expose the utter lack of his own despite his BFF McConnell throwing up his own "impenetrable wall" of obstacles he put up against Obama and his crew now should we?

 

[Jhhnn]

You just described a system that is inherently corrupt. Why the hell should his name open *any* doors for *anyone*?

Because that's just the way it works. Modern society creates an asymmetry of information & connectedness. How that's used defines whether it's corrupt or not.

 

[mect]

I would love it if we were in an environment where this was worth getting worked up about. There is no doubt this is wrong. But in today's political landscape, its like worrying about the peeling paint on your siding while the house is burning to the ground.

 

[jmagg]

Because that's just the way it works. Modern society creates an asymmetry of information & connectedness. How that's used defines whether it's corrupt or not.

.
And Who shot John

 

[Jhhnn]

I would love it if we were in an environment where this was worth getting worked up about. There is no doubt this is wrong. But in today's political landscape, its like worrying about the peeling paint on your siding while the house is burning to the ground.

Something about motes & beams...

 

[hal2kilo]

It isn't quid pro quo unless you can produce evidence of quid pro quo. Hunter went to Yale IIRC and all those guys are one big boy's club sitting on boards doing nothing but siphoning money out of big companies. You have no proof that they hired Hunter to get anything from Joe and you can't name a single thing that Joe could have given them in return.

Apparently, only bothsides bad politicians are the only people in this country to practice networking (using all the valuable contacts, family, college buddies, etc). yep only bothsides politicians use networking and family names to get good deals for their kids.

 

[hal2kilo]

Apparently, only bothsides bad politicians are the only people in this country to practice networking (using all the valuable contacts, family, college buddies, etc). yep only bothsides politicians use networking and family names to get good deals for their kids.

EDIT: yep nobody goes to extraordinary lengths to get their get kids in the right colleges not for knowledge, but for the contacts they make at that college. Never happens!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Jhhnn]

Apparently, only bothsides bad politicians are the only people in this country to practice networking (using all the valuable contacts, family, college buddies, etc). yep only bothsides politicians use networking and family names to get good deals for their kids.

There's no evidence that Joe did anything to promote Hunter to Burisma. Not a damned thing.

 

[hal2kilo]

There's no evidence that Joe did anything to promote Hunter to Burisma. Not a damned thing.

Not saying he did. But it's a practice of the wealthy and connected. Since the beginning of time.

 

[ElFenix]

Firm seeking to bolster its reputation puts on its board a Yale educated lawyer from *checks notes* Delaware. If there's one thing I'm certain of, it's that Delaware lawyers know nothing of corporate governance.

 

[TheVrolok]

So just checking in - we are still at absolutely zero evidence of any illegal conduct, right?

Oh okay. So instead we are afflicted with a bunch of conservatives pretending to be concerned about Hunter Biden’s benefits from nepotism despite showing absolutely zero concern for the obvious nepotism in the Trump family for years.

Additionally, what the fuck does Biden's nepotism have to do with Trump asking a foreign government to interfere, in his favor, with his upcoming election?

 

[Vic]

BuTrump. I’m not excusing his kids either.

Yes, you are. This entire debate is an exercise by Republicans to excuse Trump's own cronyism and nepotism, and his quid pro quo demand from the Ukrainian PM. Period.

 

[ElFenix]

The point I was making is that the left wingers in the media do not want to discuss Hunter

that's because that discussion is about as relevant as discussing how well the orioles' hitters match up against the marlins' pitching staff

 

[FelixDeCat]

that's because that discussion is about as relevant as discussing how well the orioles' hitters match up against the marlins' pitching staff

Yet our most wise and munificent president Donald J. Trump would not have asked Ukraine to look into the dirty dealings of the Bidens in Ukraine had it not occurred in the first place. Is it the chicken or is it the egg?

The left wing reporters at CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and even PBS do not care about the corruption of left wing politicians. In fact, they were just fine with it being swept under the rug until Trump made it headline news nationwide.

Now everyone in America knows, including indiferent libs who are now trying to interfere with Trumps re-election efforts with the unhinged inquiry they are proceeding with.