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JEDIYoda

Lifer
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His discharge for cocaine use is factual

You were a Navy guy. If you came up hot for cocaine on a piss test, what would your discharge papers say and how would that impact your future job prospects?
dEPENDS ON IF YOU ARE YOURE OWN EMPLOYER OR SOMEBODY ELSE, OR IF A FRIEND IS YOUR EMPLOYER! This day and age -- it would not impact you at all if you were not trying to get a job where a security clearance is required!
 

MrPickins

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If you remember there was an investigation of Burisma that was called off because of pressure exerted by Vice President Biden. He did not want his son smeared even though he was on the take. If the president wanted the investigation restarted, it was ultimately up to Ukraine.

This is a blatant lie.

Biden was representing a host of countries who wanted Shokin to be removed because he wasn't tough enough on corruption.

I know you've been told this before.
 

Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
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His discharge for cocaine use is factual

You were a Navy guy. If you came up hot for cocaine on a piss test, what would your discharge papers say and how would that impact your future job prospects?

You do know that the discharge was from the Navy Reserves, right?
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
Jul 13, 2005
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His discharge for cocaine use is factual

You were a Navy guy. If you came up hot for cocaine on a piss test, what would your discharge papers say and how would that impact your future job prospects?
That doesn`t matter at all! People can try to make it seem like it matters, but how would it matter if you were a member of a companies board of directors! Keep spreading misinformation that has no bearing except to those spreading the manure!!
 
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Exactly!1 It all about repeating misinformation so much somebody will believe it!!

It's more about turning off people from the political system so they won't bother to vote because, you know: "both sides". Meanwhile, their base will turn up no matter the gates of hell being opened.

It's organized and it's directed and there seem to be a lot of willing volunteers happy to spread the manure.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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This is a blatant lie.

Biden was representing a host of countries who wanted Shokin to be removed because he wasn't tough enough on corruption.

I know you've been told this before.
Why can't mods have a color system where posts that have been debunked are shaded as conspiracy theories. Maintain 1A rights and at the same time ID blatant lying.
 
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ElFenix

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If holding positions for which he has no qualifications but questionable ethical conflicts of interest given who his father is, yes he has an extensive resume of that.
again you lie about qualifications.
 

Meghan54

Lifer
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Which degree makes him an expert in Ukranian and Chinese markets?

Apparently the same degree that confers upon Ms. Angela F. Braley expertise in oil/energy, home improvement, retail management, and healthcare markets.

"Ms. Angela F. Braly is on the Board of Directors at Exxon Mobil Corp., Brookfield Asset Management, Inc., Lowe's Cos., Inc., Procter & Gamble Co., Council for Affordable Quality Healthcare, Inc., National Institute for Health Care Management Foundation and The Central Indiana Corporate Partnership. "

"She received her undergraduate degree from Texas Tech University and a graduate degree from SMU Dedman School of Law."

 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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You do know that the discharge was from the Navy Reserves, right?
And? That he couldn’t stay off cocaine to meet his Reserves obligations is even a greater indicator of his character.

Why is that an issue? Is Hunter running for public office? Besides we already had 2 Presidents that did a little blow in their youth.
No he is not. It is an issue only is his father’s political influence had bearing on any of those appointments. I suppose its just a coincidence that Hunter’s lobbying paralleled his father’s political areas of focus.

again you lie about qualifications.
I am stating an opinion based on observable fact. I see a career of privilege and appointments based on his last name. I believe the term for that is grifter. You are welcome to refute that point with his exhaustive list of accomplishments and achievements.

Apparently the same degree that confers upon Ms. Angela F. Braley expertise in oil/energy, home improvement, retail management, and healthcare markets.

"Ms. Angela F. Braly is on the Board of Directors at Exxon Mobil Corp., Brookfield Asset Management, Inc., Lowe's Cos., Inc., Procter & Gamble Co., Council for Affordable Quality Healthcare, Inc., National Institute for Health Care Management Foundation and The Central Indiana Corporate Partnership. "

"She received her undergraduate degree from Texas Tech University and a graduate degree from SMU Dedman School of Law."
Unless she can speak to Hunter’s qualifications, her existence has no relevance to this thread. There are many people in appointed positions, some earned, some due to cronyism.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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And? That he couldn’t stay off cocaine to meet his Reserves obligations is even a greater indicator of his character.

No he is not. It is an issue only is his father’s political influence had bearing on any of those appointments. I suppose its just a coincidence that Hunter’s lobbying paralleled his father’s political areas of focus.
I don't know much about the history of Hunter's cocaine use but if he was discharged for using sounds like LACK of influence from his father.
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
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And? That he couldn’t stay off cocaine to meet his Reserves obligations is even a greater indicator of his character. <-- people can change! Get over it!!

No he is not. It is an issue only is his father’s political influence had bearing on any of those appointments. I suppose its just a coincidence that Hunter’s lobbying paralleled his father’s political areas of focus. <-- Which had no influence! You cannot post any links that have facts that say otherwise!! also -- posting the same lies and enuendos from somebody elses blog is not consider facts -- lil

I am stating an opinion based on observable fact. I see a career of privilege and appointments based on his last name. I believe the term for that is grifter. You are welcome to refute that point with his exhaustive list of accomplishments and achievements. -- What has been stated over and over again has been debunked and come the end of the month most likely infractionable, without a factual link to back up what you are saying is an observable fact has no bearing on anything if what the person claiming to be an observable cannot support that fact! Even Trump believes all his lies--does that make them a fact?? Lets see how far this "observable fact " thing is allowed to go.....I seriously doubt that the wording without links or verifiable proof will be allowed to cover for repeating lies over and over!! If I get an infraction for this so be it!!


Unless she can speak to Hunter’s qualifications, her existence has no relevance to this thread. There are many people in appointed positions, some earned, some due to cronyism. --- Only those influenced by Trumps lies and inuendos about Hunter Biden believe what Trunp is shoveling!!
A real work of art Trump and his suppoerters are. I have seen not one link that supported any of the lies and miasdeeds about Hunter Biden that Trump claims are real!!
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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I don't know much about the history of Hunter's cocaine use but if he was discharged for using sounds like LACK of influence from his father.
Nice try. The Navy actually waived his prior drug history to accomodate his commission. Sounds like daddy pulled some strings. What daddy couldn’t do is sweep a urinalysis test under the rug.
 

Luna1968

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A real work of art Trump and his suppoerters are. I have seen not one link that supported any of the lies and miasdeeds about Hunter Biden that Trump claims are real!!

which ones are you having difficulties with?
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Nice try. The Navy actually waived his prior drug history to accomodate his commission. Sounds like daddy pulled some strings. What daddy couldn’t do is sweep a urinalysis test under the rug.
I don't know what you are talking about but this story seems to encapsulate it. From 2014
The Navy Reserve discharged Vice President Joe Biden's son Hunter this year after he tested positive for cocaine, U.S. officials confirmed.
The discharge of Biden, a 44-year-old lawyer and managing partner at an investment firm, was first reported by the Wall Street Journal on Thursday. He confirmed the report in a statement to CNN.
Biden was commissioned as an ensign in May 2013 and assigned as a public affairs officer in a Norfolk, Virginia-based reserve unit. A month later, he tested positive for cocaine, and he was discharged in February, according to the report.
The U.S. official said the Navy never had contact with the vice president's office over the issue, and that standard procedure for failed drug tests is administrative discharge. The vice president's office didn't comment on the report.

I don't see any evidence here of interference by Joe.

 

fskimospy

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Nice try. The Navy actually waived his prior drug history to accomodate his commission. Sounds like daddy pulled some strings.

What daddy couldn’t do is sweep a urinalysis test under the rug.

A waiver for a prior drug incident is not even remotely uncommon. In fact I would say it's almost the rule rather than the exception. Why is your first thought to go to some corrupt motive without even bothering to learn about what you're talking about? Do you have a single shred of evidence to support your assertion?

Also as far as an OTH for drug use goes it would certainly be an obstacle for government service but for someone who already had a long career in lobbying and finance and things like that I doubt it would matter. After all they are all up to their ears in cocaine so the drug use itself would be irrelevant - they would only care about the possible damage to their reputation and I suspect Biden's name and connections far outweighed that.
 

VRAMdemon

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You still haven't answered the question. What crime or misdeed are you accusing the Biden's of?

They won't...Because there is no evidence of a crime. All the other noise is just perpetuating the smear.

The problem with being the son of the Vice President is that there is not a whole lot you can do that cannot be potentially influenced by your father. He seems to be cut from the same cloth as the Trump boys in some ways - drug use, affairs, privileged career, etc.

Whether he just sat on the board for his name, or if he actually contributed is a good question, but it is a question that the company should be asking its HR department, it's not a legal question. That said, sure, if you are in a position to give or undue receive influence from the US govt, then you are in a position that deserves a bit extra scrutiny, and I have no problem with some level of investigation to ensure that everything was on the up and up. it's not reasonable to think Joe didn't know Hunter was on that board. IIRC, there was criticism of Hunter's decision at the time. But when no one can even articulate what wrong has been committed here.

Often synonymous with board membership. Henry Kissinger was on the board of the fraudulent company Theranos, was paid a lot, and was definitely not qualified. Which was one of the reasons he got picked, no doubt. Yet he doesn't seem to have committed any crime. Anyone know how many boards Hunter Biden was on? GWB put in on Amtracks board. If you have a name, it is a way of getting money for almost nothing.

The fig leaf they're hold up for Trump's defense was that he wanted something illegal investigated. They had already told him nothing was done illegally , but he was insisting as a way of saying, "Make something up if you have to." Trump's defense isn't saying that he's on some kind of quest to rid the world of cronyism. This is purely an issue of making a solid case against his actions.

We have two categories of questions here:

1) What, if anything, has any member of the Biden family done wrong? In particular Joe
2) What, if anything, has President Trump done wrong in the matter of asking foreign governments to work with his personal lawyer AND with the US Attorney General to investigate US citizens, as a favor, in the context of the foreign government seeking both the release of congressionally-mandated aid and also a meeting with the president?

The answer to question 1 may be that Joe Biden shot JFK, and Hunter Biden personally started ISIS and also talks loudly on his cell phone at the opera.

That doesn't have anything to do with question 2.

As long as there's no disagreement on this subject, question 2 can be some idle fun. But given the president's attempt to muddy the waters, we almost need to repeat this "no linkage" thing every ten posts to make sure folks haven't forgotten.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Biden was representing a host of countries who wanted Shokin to be removed because he wasn't tough enough on corruption.

Sorry, but no. What you are trying to do is re characterize his abuse of power by saying "he only used his influence to remove the prosecutor who was going after my sons "consulting" company paychecks, which would have shown a light on the Bindens (again). Besides, other countries wanted the prosecutor removed because he simply was not tough enough on crime."

You dont get to use your power to remove a foreign prosecutor who is looking into corruption because he is not to your liking, especially when he threatens your personal interests in that same country!

Your highlighted statement above is demonstrably untrue. It amounts to dishonest trolling. The very most rigorously proven lies, as opposed to opinion or any gray area not 100% proved to be untrue, will be sanctioned.

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