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fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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Sorry, but no. What you are trying to do is re characterize his abuse of power by saying "he only used to influence to remove the prosecutor who was going after my sons "consulting" company paychecks, which would have shown a light on the Bindens (again). Besides, other countries wanted the prosecutor removed because he simply was not tough enough on crime."

You dont get to use your power to remove a foreign prosecutor who is looking into corruption because he is not to your liking, especially when he threatens your personal interests in that same country!

Man oh man are you going to be mad when you learn what Trump's been up to in Ukraine.
 
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Sorry, but no. What you are trying to do is re characterize his abuse of power by saying "he only used his influence to remove the prosecutor who was going after my sons "consulting" company paychecks, which would have shown a light on the Bindens (again). Besides, other countries wanted the prosecutor removed because he simply was not tough enough on crime."

You dont get to use your power to remove a foreign prosecutor who is looking into corruption because he is not to your liking, especially when he threatens your personal interests in that same country!
You really have no actual clue of what happened in Ukraine with the prosecutor do you? Like even a little bit.
 
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VRAMdemon

Diamond Member
Aug 16, 2012
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Sorry, but no. What you are trying to do is re characterize his abuse of power by saying "he only used his influence to remove the prosecutor who was going after my sons "consulting" company paychecks, which would have shown a light on the Bindens (again). Besides, other countries wanted the prosecutor removed because he simply was not tough enough on crime."

You dont get to use your power to remove a foreign prosecutor who is looking into corruption because he is not to your liking, especially when he threatens your personal interests in that same country!

I don't now why you guys respond to this guy...This post here tells us he has no interest in learning the facts. Just the Trump playbook - perpetuate the smear
 
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dawp

Lifer
Jul 2, 2005
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I don't now why you guys respond to this guy...This post here tells us he has no interest in learning the facts. Just the Trump playbook - perpetuate the smear
that's why I asked for them to prove ONE charge that has been filed, which they cannot.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
Jan 6, 2005
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A waiver for a prior drug incident is not even remotely uncommon. In fact I would say it's almost the rule rather than the exception. Why is your first thought to go to some corrupt motive without even bothering to learn about what you're talking about? Do you have a single shred of evidence to support your assertion?

Also as far as an OTH for drug use goes it would certainly be an obstacle for government service but for someone who already had a long career in lobbying and finance and things like that I doubt it would matter. After all they are all up to their ears in cocaine so the drug use itself would be irrelevant - they would only care about the possible damage to their reputation and I suspect Biden's name and connections far outweighed that.
For an applicant without political connections, an age waiver for a direct commission is very rare, even more so for someone with a history of drug abuse.
 

MrPickins

Diamond Member
May 24, 2003
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Sorry, but no. What you are trying to do is re characterize his abuse of power by saying "he only used his influence to remove the prosecutor who was going after my sons "consulting" company paychecks, which would have shown a light on the Bindens (again). Besides, other countries wanted the prosecutor removed because he simply was not tough enough on crime."

You dont get to use your power to remove a foreign prosecutor who is looking into corruption because he is not to your liking, especially when he threatens your personal interests in that same country!

Again, you're lying.

Burisma was not under investigation when Shokin was ousted. They had been under investigation, but it was from a time before Hunter Biden was employed.

This is all publicly available information; try educating yourself (although I know you won't).
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Sorry, but no. What you are trying to do is re characterize his abuse of power by saying "he only used his influence to remove the prosecutor who was going after my sons "consulting" company paychecks, which would have shown a light on the Bindens (again). Besides, other countries wanted the prosecutor removed because he simply was not tough enough on crime."

You dont get to use your power to remove a foreign prosecutor who is looking into corruption because he is not to your liking, especially when he threatens your personal interests in that same country!
That so called abuse of power was executing official US policy. Biden's actions were done on behest of our country.

Trump tried to extort Ukraine in an arms for dirt deal for his own personal benefit. Corruption was a cover.

Besides how could someone who steals money from a kids cancer charity be interested in ending corruption?
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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I will refrain from personal attacks, but it’s funny to see some people in this thread railing against the crony capitalist system that rewards the rich and powerful, and yet they continue to support and vote for the same people that enable and strengthen that system while demonizing others (Warren, Sanders etc.) who want to see the system changed.

The only time any of these attacks on Hunter and Joe Biden would have any merit is if a) Joe Biden directly participated in placing Hunter on the Burisma board and benefited from his placement while in public office, or b) Hunter Biden runs for public office.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Again, you're lying.

Burisma was not under investigation when Shokin was ousted. They had been under investigation, but it was from a time before Hunter Biden was employed.

This is all publicly available information; try educating yourself (although I know you won't).

That so called abuse of power was executing official US policy. Biden's actions were done on behest of our country.

Trump tried to extort Ukraine in an arms for dirt deal for his own personal benefit. Corruption was a cover.

Besides how could someone who steals money from a kids cancer charity be interested in ending corruption?

Okay, lets say what you are saying is correct, that it was on done on behalf of US policy and was also done before Hunter was employed. If you had more than 3 brain cells, and did not have a taste for corruption, wouldn't you tell your son NOT to get a job at a company for $600,000 per year that benefited from your own actions as Vice President?

That sure as hell looks like a payoff to me.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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Burisma neither benefitted from nor was harmed by Joe Biden strong-arming Ukraine to fire a corrupt prosecutor. There was no active investigation at that time.

If you have any proof to the contrary, please share.
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Okay, lets say what you are saying is correct, that it was on done on behalf of US policy and was also done before Hunter was employed. If you had more than 3 brain cells, and did not have a taste for corruption, wouldn't you tell your son NOT to get a job at a company for $600,000 per year that benefited from your own actions as Vice President?

That sure as hell looks like a payoff to me.
You are referring to appearances not illegality. Politically it does appear sketchy. My guess Joe left the judgement up to Hunter.

If it's nepotism that has you all pent up better focus on Ivanka. She did a better job then Hunter and she was equally unqualified. In the case of Ivanka it effects all of us.

Hey, at least the Bidens didn't steal kids cancer money. In case you are really worried about corruption.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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You are referring to appearances not illegality. Politically it does appear sketchy. My guess Joe left the judgement up to Hunter.

Thank you. And since you are willing to give, I will to - no particular crime has been cited (especially by the left wing media like CNN, MSNBC, CBS or PBS who doesnt care anyway).

So we are not going to slap cuffs on the Bidens....yet.
 
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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Okay, lets say what you are saying is correct, that it was on done on behalf of US policy and was also done before Hunter was employed. If you had more than 3 brain cells, and did not have a taste for corruption, wouldn't you tell your son NOT to get a job at a company for $600,000 per year that benefited from your own actions as Vice President?

That sure as hell looks like a payoff to me.

As if Joe could tell a 40 year old Hunter what to do. You're apparently not old enough to have adult children.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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Okay, lets say what you are saying is correct, that it was on done on behalf of US policy and was also done before Hunter was employed. If you had more than 3 brain cells, and did not have a taste for corruption, wouldn't you tell your son NOT to get a job at a company for $600,000 per year that benefited from your own actions as Vice President?

That sure as hell looks like a payoff to me.

how did the company benefit? Remember the push was to fire the prosecutor for not being aggressive enough. Be specific please.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Thank you. And since you are willing to give, I will to - no particular crime has been cited (especially by the left wing media like CNN, MSNBC, CBS or PBS who doesnt care anyway).

So we are not going to slap cuffs on the Bidens....yet.

So, you admit that it's just innuendo & conspiracy theory? That would be refreshing.
 
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UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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While we’re on the topic of children with benefits...



“In May 2018, Ivanka Trump’s business received approval for several new Chinese trademarks a week before President Trump announced that he wanted to lift the ban on the Chinese company ZTE, for violating US sanctions,” CREW said.

“In 2017, the business received three new Chinese trademarks on the same day she dined with Chinese President Xi Jinping,” CREW said.
 
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dawp

Lifer
Jul 2, 2005
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While we’re on the topic of children with benefits...



“In May 2018, Ivanka Trump’s business received approval for several new Chinese trademarks a week before President Trump announced that he wanted to lift the ban on the Chinese company ZTE, for violating US sanctions,” CREW said.

“In 2017, the business received three new Chinese trademarks on the same day she dined with Chinese President Xi Jinping,” CREW said.
looks like quid pro quo to me, got something in return for granting ivanka the trademarks.
 
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dawp

Lifer
Jul 2, 2005
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Thank you. And since you are willing to give, I will to - no particular crime has been cited (especially by the left wing media like CNN, MSNBC, CBS or PBS who doesnt care anyway).

So we are not going to slap cuffs on the Bidens....yet.
after the trump klan.
 

thraashman

Lifer
Apr 10, 2000
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So Hunter would avoid any potential conflicts of interest if his father is elected, but Trump himself won't even divest himself of his own conflicts of interest. And somehow Hunter and Joe are Felix's focus here. You might want to broaden what you're looking at man. Trump's sons, daughter, son in law, Trump himself ALL have significantly more sketchy looking conflicts of interest than Hunter ever did. And Biden never brought his son into a government position, Trump has done that to his kids. Seriously, your choice of things to be fake outraged about are silly even by the normal rightwing standard. This would be like complaining about the man who stole a banana while brushing off the team who arm robbed a bank.
 
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