25pk ESA DVD+/-R $6.98 Circuit City no rebates

allisolm

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Circuit city has ESA 8X DVD+/-R 25pk for $6.98 - Back again for Memorial Day 5/26-5/30 no rebates.

+Rs: EDVDPR8X25PK (currently not finding these online)
-Rs: EDVDMR8X25PK (currently shows as $14.95 online but says not available for shipping)

deal maybe in-store only even though there is no mention of that that I can see

 

rootaxs

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I've burned about 125 of the -R and i'm happy to say there have been no coasters and burn at full speed on my NEC 3500.
 

Super56K

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What does the design on the disc look like? Is there a "rough" surface to right on, or just a glossy surface?

IMO this media type is decent. I've never burned a coaster using Memorex and Teon dvd media of the same media code, but whether they last as long as the high quality media I couldn't say. The burner I used was an NEC 3520a.
 

intogamer

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Good but not as good as the 25 pack of TDK's for 7.99
I'd say the NEc 3520 will burn any cheap media
 

cyberia

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For throw-away stuff they seem to be decent. For anything serious, I use TYs (Made in Japan TDKs, Fujis, Sonys).
 

cyberia

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Originally posted by: freshspace
Just a question..., what serious stuff can you have that can't be burned in one of these?
A backup of your documents that you might need to access a few years from now.
 

agibby5

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I got these DVD-r's about three weeks ago and I burned 2 dvd's with it. The max speed was only 4x but my burners specs include 8x for DVD-R. I have a NEC 2500A dvd burner w/ hacked firmware. Anyone have any ideas?
 

Bluemedgroup

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Originally posted by: intogamer
Good but not as good as the 25 pack of TDK's for 7.99
I'd say the NEc 3520 will burn any cheap media

Where to get this 25 pack of TDKs? Circuit city as well?
 

VirtualLarry

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Thanks allisolm, I saw these in the CC B&M flyer a few weeks back; they were on sale for the same price, but I didn't have any funds then. I think that they are CMC media, but for that price, I wouldn't worry. I've gone through several hundred of the ProDisc DVD-Rs from BB, and now I'm out, so I think I might grab a spindle or two of these. However, keep in mind the availability of TDK 50-pack spindles, that may be T-Y, for $20. So you're looking at $14/50 of CMC, or $20/50 of T-Y. Decisions, decisions.
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: cyberia
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Looks like decent media for the price. Definitely beats CompUSA's 4x media for $20.

I'm curious why there is no listing yet at VideoHelp for the +Rs. If the -Rs are CMC MAG AE1, then the +Rs are likely to be CMC MAG E01. The reviews of the TDK-branded ones, aren't so good. (Sadly, I just broke into a pack of those, as part of my standby media stash.)

So if those reviews are anything to go by, it sounds like the -Rs might be a better bet quality-wise. I'm a sucker though, I'll try anything, so I might pick up one of each anyways.
 

allisolm

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Back again 4/10-4/16 $6.95. I can't find the +Rs online, though. Only the -Rs and the link in the OP is still good for them.
 

VirtualLarry

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Bump for another great hot deal from allisolm, combined with some more info. I was at CC, and they also had some "Nexxitech" (I think) brand DVDRs (I think +R?), for the same 25-spindle for $6.95. My local CC didn't have any MIJ TDKs, all were MIT, as were the ESA discs. Interestingly, those "Nexxitech" DVDRs, had printed on their packaging, the same "EDVDMR8X25PK" (I think), that showed up on my CC reciept under the ESA-branded DVDRs. So it seems quite likely, that they are the same thing, or at least come from the same supplier/distributor. (That would explain them both being on sale for the same price as well.)

There were also ESA-branded CD-Rs on sale too, 100-pack for something like ... err, darn, not sure if it was $12.xx or $19.xx. Sorry. (Wasn't really looking for CD-Rs when I went.)

I also noticed something else as well, there are two different style packages for the ESA 8x DVD-Rs - one with a shallow lip on the top, and one with a deeper lip. The "shallow lip" cakeboxes are similar to the Fuji 8x ProDisc DVD-Rs that I purchased at BB, while the "deeper lip" cakeboxes are similar to the TDK 8x CMC DVD+Rs that I purchased at BB as well.

Not directly related, but I also noticed that they had two different displays of TDK CD-Rs, both 50-spindles for $19.99, but one was MIT, and one was "Made in India" (obviously, those were MBI media). The Indian media had a rounded top to the cakebox, no lip along the top outside edge at all. The MIT had a "deeper lip".

Ok, initial visual inspection/impression: "shallow" = top five discs, at least, have visible major defects around the outside 25% of the disc, speckles, and circular scratches. Not good. "deeper" = top disc looks beautiful, next few did too. They look like the TDK CMC 8x +Rs that I have, underneath. Now, I know that CMC has quite a few plants, and it's likely that they may be using different generations of production equipment, and have different output quality. That being said, at least for my limited sample size of two spindles, I strongly suggest getting the -Rs with the "deeper lip" around the outside top rim of the cakebox. The media-code markings on the inner ring look pressed-in as part of the disc moulding or something on the "deeper" ones, and they look crudely etched-on with a dot-matrix laser on the "shallow" ones too.

I didn't get any of the +Rs, curious if there's a difference among them as well.

Edit for updated info: Ugh. If there's one thing that can be said about CMC's media production, it's that their quality of output tends to be highly variable. :| I burned my first DVD from the spindle of questionable-quality media, containing video content that only spanned half of the disc, using one of those topmost discs that had the scratches/speckles around the edge. Ugh. I actually got I/O error dialogs from DVDDecrypter during the verify phase, and red blocks from CDSpeed, using a surface scan of the DVD. That's the first that I've ever had those, using my so-far trusty ND1300A. Upon closer inspection, the burned section shows that there is a severe issue with dye-layer spread near the inner hub (as opposed to the outside of the disc, where it usually happens). I'm guessing that the I/O error occured somewhere at the point of the edge of the "strange dye blob region". OTOH, the "good" spindle - burned three discs so far, out to the edge, and no problems whatsoever. So CMC media appears to be a flip of the coin as far as quality goes. Good luck with these discs, people.
 

mawg

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OK, stupid question time: I just bought a NEC3520a at the egg, I have never burned a DVD. Most of my usage will be for data discs like Linux distros, do I need to get the + or - ? Or should I even care?
 

HOKP

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Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Originally posted by: cyberia
VideoHelp
Looks like decent media for the price. Definitely beats CompUSA's 4x media for $20.

I'm curious why there is no listing yet at VideoHelp for the +Rs. If the -Rs are CMC MAG AE1, then the +Rs are likely to be CMC MAG E01. The reviews of the TDK-branded ones, aren't so good. (Sadly, I just broke into a pack of those, as part of my standby media stash.)

So if those reviews are anything to go by, it sounds like the -Rs might be a better bet quality-wise. I'm a sucker though, I'll try anything, so I might pick up one of each anyways.

Look at the K-probe scans:

CMCMAGE01 Scans
CMCMAGAE1 Scans

If these are those, then its pretty good
 

mawg

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I was just at Arrowhead CC in Glendale/Peoria, they had the ESA in stock right under a sign apologizing for advertising stock they didn't have. right around the corner they also had TDK Taiwan 8X + and - 25 packs for $7.95, I bought those, one of each. Now my brand new NEC 3520A is happily burning 4GB of data onto one of the +'s at 1.5x. Bummer. whassupwiddat?

Anybody answer my question above about using + or - for data disc burning?

 

THRILLHOv

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mawg, for your needs (data) just buy what ever is cheaper. (if its for something to keep for a long time, look for a good media code) if its for something to burn, use a couple times, and toss, just go cheap.
DVD+R you can normally burn faster with less expensive burners, and DVD-R is slightly more likely to be compatible with older home DVD players.
but computer DVD-ROM or DVD writers will read either just fine.
 

imported_BadKarma

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mawg, try updating the firmware of your NEC 3520A. I have the NEC 3500 w/ hacked firmware and I'm able to burn most DVD+R's at higher speed. Updating yours may yield the same result.
I didn't know you can burn a DVD at 1.5x. I thought 2x was the minimum.
 
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