$280 Killer NIC card "for gamers"

[holotech]

Check out this new NIC card. It has alot of cool new features never before seen on a "consumer level" NIC card. The price is hard to justify, but so is a 600$ video card.
I think it has tons of potential and i really hope websites like anandtech and xbitlabs review it.


the home site is:
www.killernic.com

a better read is the white papers in pdf format at:
http://www.bigfootnetworks.com/PDFs/KillerNic_LLR_White_Paper.pdf

and also HardOCP did an "outline of what the product is about." (not a review with benchmarks):
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTE1MywxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

again i hope sites like xbitlabs and anandtech review this product.
It really peaks my intrest.

 

[Lord Evermore]

WOW! Another first post from someone who's extremely interested in the KillerNIC! Couldn't possibly be yet ANOTHER shill, could it?

God damn viral marketing. Marketers are Satan's bastard stepchildren that he's only allowed to see every other weekend because their mother doesn't think he's a bad enough influence.

And no, I don't know what, technically, bastard stepchildren are.

 

[holotech]

are you kidding me?
so let me guess, you think im getting paid to talk about the killer nic Lmao
i wish i was.

i didnt know that other 1st posters posted about this card. i didnt search the whole forum but i looked on the first page considering its a very new product.

fact is i dont care that the thing reduces lag, i care about the potential of the onboard linux os and what that can do for an end user like me.

are you the type of person who thinks we never landed on the moon?

 

[Lord Evermore]

You're also not the first shill on this or any other forum to come back and protest that you're not a shill. I'm certainly not the only person here who'd think this about you, I just happen to be one of the few awake at this hour.

If you actually aren't a shill, I can't say I'm SORRY for misjudging you, because I'm not, and all the viral marketing crap has jaded everybody to your type of post. I can't really say whether you could have searched and found how often it's been talked about, because the search function is badly broken and may not have gotten any results even if you did. But I still don't believe anybody who makes a post like that as their first post is anything but another paid marketer.

It's not a new product at all, in fact it's not even AVAILABLE yet and was announced quite a while back, and ridiculed tremendously on pretty much every tech site (at least in their forums, only one site has done even a cursory test on a sample that I know of, and the rest just posted it as a product announcement without real editorial commentary).

 

[alimoalem]

Originally posted by: Lord Evermore
You're also not the first shill on this or any other forum to come back and protest that you're not a shill. I'm certainly not the only person here who'd think this about you, I just happen to be one of the few awake at this hour.

If you actually aren't a shill, I can't say I'm SORRY for misjudging you, because I'm not, and all the viral marketing crap has jaded everybody to your type of post. I can't really say whether you could have searched and found how often it's been talked about, because the search function is badly broken and may not have gotten any results even if you did. But I still don't believe anybody who makes a post like that as their first post is anything but another paid marketer.

It's not a new product at all, in fact it's not even AVAILABLE yet and was announced quite a while back, and ridiculed tremendously on pretty much every tech site (at least in their forums, only one site has done even a cursory test on a sample that I know of, and the rest just posted it as a product announcement without real editorial commentary).

owned

 

[MrUniq]

waste of money...it's a product for idiots quite frankly. HardOCP should be ashamed...they have no crediblity with me anymore.

 

[holotech]

but the freakin site says pre-order , how can it not be new?
i saw an ad in pc gamer mag, then saw an article about it on Hardocp site just the other day.
i thought i was bringing something new to the forum. it was over at xbitlabs forum.

as for why this is my first post, well ive tried in the past to join with no success, i would never get that message that said "you have succesfully joined now check your mail" i would get a blank page.
but today it worked and this piece of hardware has been on my mind since i heard of it.

i see how that sounds bogus but whatever.
if there was a thread about it i wouldnt have posted this.

ps. ok there is a thread about it, and it started on 8-5-06.
man that guy got flamed.


but again wouldnt it be cool to run like a an anti virus, bit torrent client, and maybe some sort of firewall all on the nic card. forget about the gaming.

 

[Lord Evermore]

Originally posted by: MrUniq
waste of money...it's a product for idiots quite frankly. HardOCP should be ashamed...they have no crediblity with me anymore.

I quit going to HardOCP a few months ago with their site redesign. Besides making it an unreadable mashup of clashing colors and bubbly fonts, I can't freaking FIND anything when I go looking for it. Oh, is this article I want something that would be under the enthusiast or consumer sections? Oh guess it doesn't matter now, I've gone blind trying to read the 3-word-wide columns of bright orange text. Bah. Aside from that, their articles bored me and I have plenty of other sites to get the same old tech news, and they seemed to be kind of full of themselves after awhile.

Back on topic, yes, it'd be cool if people bothered to write programs that could be run on this card, such that the OS never even was aware they existed, but there's also plenty of other cheaper ways of doing it all, or ways that we already have to implement and wouldn't be able to eliminate even with the card installed. The performance aspects of it have yet to be proven in real world, proper testing by 3rd parties, and even if they were 100% true would not be worth the cost. They've combined two minor features (performance improvements and running Linux) and priced it higher than both of those combined are worth having.

 

[holotech]

can you clue me in on how to run an anti virus , bit torrent, and a firewall in a similar fashion?

 

[0roo0roo]

in cs source i get pings in the teens sometimes, i have an intel network card it was 50 bucks a few years ago. most of the time its 20-40ping. big deal

 

[holotech]

how about running some sort of encryption program on the nic card before any of your data leaves................. maybe even double encryption, first from the cpu then from the nic card.

 

[0roo0roo]

and yea shill, pretty sad. but the device was supposedly created by a buncha marketing folk. so what do u expect.

 

[holotech]

can anyone say anything besides how high the price is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FFS, can we talk about the idea of the hardware itself

 

[Lord Evermore]

On your PC?

Just the fact that you CAN run them on a PCI card with its own OS doesn't mean there's necessarily a real advantage to it. Particularly the antivirus client since it would need to capture every stream of data and reassemble the files in order to determine if they contain a virus (since an awful lot of files come compressed these days when you download them, just having it watch for data streams which would correspond to what it would see if a virus/worm were being transferred isn't enough to provide even close to current protection like a regular client).

And who particularly needs to run a bittorrent client on their NIC transferring the files directly to a USB hard drive? That's serious serious niche marketing.

The firewall is about the only thing that really has any bite, but again there are free firewalls to run on your PC, and most of the people here are using routers on broadband which offer firewall functionality too (beyond just NAT).

It comes down to the theme of "I've already spent as much money as I can on every other part, I may as well blow some more on this since I have spare cash".

 

[Lord Evermore]

Originally posted by: holotech
can anyone say anything besides how high the price is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FFS, can we talk about the idea of the hardware itself

The hardware isn't revolutionary, and can't possibly do what they claim it does except in the most unrealistic lab circumstances, and the price is outrageously high. What do you expect?

 

[Lord Evermore]

Originally posted by: holotech
how about running some sort of encryption program on the nic card before any of your data leaves................. maybe even double encryption, first from the cpu then from the nic card.

Again, serious serious niche application. You have to have somebody on the other end with the same setup to actually decrypt the data. And we have things called VPNs already to do this, though admittedly not with DOUBLE encryption.

 

[holotech]

an OS on a NIC card isnt revolutionary?

 

[Lord Evermore]

Originally posted by: holotech
an OS on a NIC card isnt revolutionary?

http://www.securecomputing.com/index.cfm?skey=1560

I've seen others but wasn't terribly interested enough to remember where.

Linux gets embedded into a crapload of products, it'll run on just about anything with a processor. Although putting it on a NIC isn't common, it's not "OMG how did you guys come up with that idea" amazing. All they've done is build a tiny computer on the card (which isn't very hard), give it some memory, and hook it up to a network controller and a PCI interface. The OS presents itself to the PC OS as a network interface card with TCP/IP offload capabilities, and happens to have a lot of other functions which can be accessed with special software.

 

[George Powell]

I have 2 gigabit ethernet adapters on my mobo.
My ping to my router is usually about nothing. Therefore all the latency in the connection exists away from the NIC and with the router and onward network.

Therefore to put it simply the killer NIC is a complete and utter waste of money for everyone.
And its so called revolutionary features are all available on the nVidia nForce 590 based mobos which cost about the same - for the whole motherboard.

 

[Lord Evermore]

I just read that HardOCP "article". Keehrist that was one long boring advertisement. I hope they got paid well for it.

 

[Lord Evermore]

Originally posted by: George Powell
And its so called revolutionary features are all available on the nVidia nForce 590 based mobos which cost about the same - for the whole motherboard.

And a CPU.

 

[holotech]

http://www.securecomputing.com/index.cfm?skey=1560[/Q

notice the price on that thing?

And its so called revolutionary features are all available on the nVidia nForce 590 based mobos which cost about the same - for the whole motherboard

false, do some research, that motherboard prioritizes outbound traffic only.

 

[holotech]

price price price price.............................................

 

[Lord Evermore]

The rest of us work for a living.

I give up. You couldn't be more obvious if your username was "shill" (and frankly I resent marketers on behalf of future forum members for taking up usernames without actually being legitimate members). But perhaps one less person will consider buying this each time there's a thread deriding it, to perhaps balance out all the people that will buy it because HardOCP says it's awesome and they have to have it to be true gamers.

 

[holotech]

again, i could care less if the thing could knock out 10ms ping and add 10 fps, or how much it costs.

i wanted to talk about what kind of cool things you can do with an os on a nic card.

but i guess i screwed that up with the thread title and my first post.