280x Prices up 20%?

[Teizo]

Free market. AMD can't dictate to someone like Newegg what they sell their product for. AMD likely has contract pricing to the AIB's. The AIB's will have a price list to the suppliers. There are typically volume discounts, promotions, etc. that are offered for limited periods. The AIB's could just let them run out and not renew them. Rebates, game bundles, extended credit terms, volume discounts are all ways that reduce the costs to the suppliers that could go away during periods of high demand like we are having now.

They can if they want to, they just don't. Golf manufacturers do not let Pro Shop or Golf Retailers sell products how they please. They have set prices.

Same thing could happen in technology as well, but I doubt we will ever see it. Too many conflicts of interests and too much greed.

 

[3DVagabond]

They can if they want to, they just don't. Golf manufacturers do not let Pro Shop or Golf Retailers sell products how they please. They have set prices.

Same thing could happen in technology as well, but I doubt we will ever see it. Too many conflicts of interests and too much greed.

What you are saying is against the law. They could decide for whatever reason that a retailer is not the type of retailer they want selling their product, but price fixing is against the law. Nobody from AMD to nVidia to Intel is going to cut off companies like Newegg for not following their MSRP. Besides it's not like these cards are a limited distribution item. Trust me when I say there's nothing that AMD can do to force Newegg to not charge over retail.

 

[Imouto]

It's hilarious to see every single high end AMD card OoS on the egg. And I mean in hilarious as I can't recall it happening with either company ever.

 

[3DVagabond]

It's hilarious to see every single high end AMD card OoS on the egg. And I mean in hilarious as I can't recall it happening with either company ever.

I imagine there are people at both AMD and nVidia HQ jumping through their butts because of it. Now if you want hilarious, picture those scenes.

 

[tolis626]

I don't know what Newegg is doing guys,but here in Greece all 280x models are below 320€ (Including the Toxic and the DCUII) with the exception of the DCUII Matrix,which goes for 370€ (What's so special about it anyway?It even has lower clocks than the others.).Same goes for 290 and 290x.They are at 380-420€ and 520-560€ respectively.Seems Greeks aren't mining LTC or BTC after all...

 

[nwo]

I don't know what Newegg is doing guys,but here in Greece all 280x models are below 320€ (Including the Toxic and the DCUII) with the exception of the DCUII Matrix,which goes for 370€ (What's so special about it anyway?It even has lower clocks than the others.).Same goes for 290 and 290x.They are at 380-420€ and 520-560€ respectively.Seems Greeks aren't mining LTC or BTC after all...

1€ is about $1.37 USD though which means that the prices in Greece are about 30-40% higher than they originally were on newegg before the price increase.

 

[RaulF]

One Asus 290 for 499 in newegg. Everything else 290 and 290x OOS

 

[bgt]

Here the cheapest 280X is 252 euro. 290 is 341 euro. Thats an OK price.(VAT 21% incl.)

 

[nwo]

Here the cheapest 280X is 252 euro. 290 is 341 euro. Thats an OK price.(VAT 21% incl.)

341 euro (~$470) for a 290 with VAT included is a pretty good price, that's actually cheaper than they currently go for on newegg ($499).

 

[CuriousMike]

I'm wondering if I should sell my 7950 for a profit.... ?

 

[Pandora's Box]

I'm wondering if I should sell my 7950 for a profit.... ?

sell it for a free upgrade

 

[CuriousMike]

I wonder if there is a demand for used 7950's and what that price is... I'm going to look into it. I got the card for ~$200 a month ago - I wouldn't mind selling it and just getting whatever the NVIDIA equivalent is and pocket the rest.

Does anyone know if there would be a best place to post it for sale ... "litecoin miners hardware for sale.com " ?

 

[Smartazz]

I wonder if there is a demand for used 7950's and what that price is... I'm going to look into it. I got the card for ~$200 a month ago - I wouldn't mind selling it and just getting whatever the NVIDIA equivalent is and pocket the rest.

Does anyone know if there would be a best place to post it for sale ... "litecoin miners hardware for sale.com " ?

On ebay they go for way more than $200.

 

[Pandora's Box]

http://forums.anandtech.com/forumdisplay.php?f=19

$300~ seems to be the going price on 7950's

 

[nwo]

I'm wondering if I should sell my 7950 for a profit.... ?

If you don't want to mine on it for a profit, I am sure you will be able to sell it for around $300 or more depending on the card manufacturer and cooling.

 

[AnandThenMan]

It's hilarious to see every single high end AMD card OoS on the egg. And I mean in hilarious as I can't recall it happening with either company ever.

I don't think I've ever seen such a thing either.

 

[Attic]

I wonder if there is a demand for used 7950's and what that price is... I'm going to look into it. I got the card for ~$200 a month ago - I wouldn't mind selling it and just getting whatever the NVIDIA equivalent is and pocket the rest.

Does anyone know if there would be a best place to post it for sale ... "litecoin miners hardware for sale.com " ?

The Pcs+ is desirable because it's one of the quieter 7950s. I'd be tempted to sell for 300+. To get nVidia equivalent you'd be looking at used 670 IMO.

Not sure if its worth the switch, definitely tempting with current nutso pricing.

 

[blastingcap]

It's hilarious to see every single high end AMD card OoS on the egg. And I mean in hilarious as I can't recall it happening with either company ever.

You must be new the video cards then. Exactly 4 years ago we saw the same or worse with HD5870 and HD5850. I bought my HD5850 at launch for $260 in September and when supply dried up by November, ebay prices were $330+. Prices fell after Christmas, when more supply was available. The supplies of HD4870/4850s was quite scarce by then, too.

Then there was the rush for NV's 8800GT and related parts, but that was longer ago.

 

[3DVagabond]

You must be new the video cards then. Exactly 4 years ago we saw the same or worse with HD5870 and HD5850. I bought my HD5850 at launch for $260 in September and when supply dried up by November, ebay prices were $330+. Prices fell after Christmas, when more supply was available. The supplies of HD4870/4850s was quite scarce by then, too.

Then there was the rush for NV's 8800GT and related parts, but that was longer ago.

This is quite a bit different though. This is all 7950, 7970, 7990, (these are EOL, but there were sufficient stocks not too long ago) 280X, 290, 290X. Not just the latest models being in short supply.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Several B&M stores here are completely sold out as well. The only thing available is the low end to mid-low stuff.

 

[blastingcap]

This is quite a bit different though. This is all 7950, 7970, 7990, (these are EOL, but there were sufficient stocks not too long ago) 280X, 290, 290X. Not just the latest models being in short supply.

Actually there are plenty of high end cards available on Newegg right now, just not at launch prices, so it's not true that Newegg is out of stock.. they and/or AIBs are just scalping. For instance you can buy a R9 290 for $499.99 right now. Not a great price, but it's in stock. You can also buy a R9 280X for $399.99 right now. Etc. They are in stock, just not at good prices.

This is very similar to the HD58xx situation in Nov-Dec 2009 where Newegg prices were getting kind of out of control, like $310+ for a HD5850. And back then the supplies of HD48xx were drying up as well similar to how HD79xx is hard to find now.

I also recall there being a massive shortage of 8800GT/X video cards back in the day when NV's card was so much better that everybody piled onto that GPU making it hard to keep in stock.

 

[Z15CAM]

Blame it on the Cyber Gold Rush - Supply and demand.

I paid $549 for Ref AMD GA-R9 290X 2 weeks ago and was considering and available Ref ASUS R9 290X for $549 3 days ago on Newegg.ca for CF. Today there is not one Reference R9 290/X available in Canada.

It's Insanely Crazy - I've never seen anything like this on Web.

 

[Teizo]

What you are saying is against the law. They could decide for whatever reason that a retailer is not the type of retailer they want selling their product, but price fixing is against the law. Nobody from AMD to nVidia to Intel is going to cut off companies like Newegg for not following their MSRP. Besides it's not like these cards are a limited distribution item. Trust me when I say there's nothing that AMD can do to force Newegg to not charge over retail.

If it's against the law, then how to golf manufacturer's do it? I guess it boils down to implementation because golf manufacturers do not let pro shops charge their own prices. Pro shops will have products removed from their shops if they try to undersell other pro shops. It boils down to protecting the brand for manufacturers and also makes pro shops offer good service in order for people to buy from them. Maybe they operate outside of the norm due to some loop hole.

I guess what you are saying is they 'fix' the price and charge too much...sort of like what happened with memory back in the day. That is not what I am saying...and that is also why I stated it probably will never happen in the technology industry because of too many conflicts of interest.

It's unfortunate they can't, but I also understand why they don't. The free market is always best, but it is not always perfect.

 

[3DVagabond]

Actually there are plenty of high end cards available on Newegg right now, just not at launch prices, so it's not true that Newegg is out of stock.. they and/or AIBs are just scalping. For instance you can buy a R9 290 for $499.99 right now. Not a great price, but it's in stock. You can also buy a R9 280X for $399.99 right now. Etc. They are in stock, just not at good prices.

This is very similar to the HD58xx situation in Nov-Dec 2009 where Newegg prices were getting kind of out of control, like $310+ for a HD5850. And back then the supplies of HD48xx were drying up as well similar to how HD79xx is hard to find now.

I also recall there being a massive shortage of 8800GT/X video cards back in the day when NV's card was so much better that everybody piled onto that GPU making it hard to keep in stock.

1x290 and 1x280X = plenty of stock? Two out of thirty two models?

 

[blastingcap]

1x290 and 1x280X = plenty of stock? Two out of thirty two models?

More than that available, those are the two lowest-priced ones. Inventory fluctuates though so what is true one moment might not be the next but at the time I checked there were a few other models available. In any case, Newegg is not the only channel. There is stock if you are creative. I landed a new with warranty 7990 from an authorized dealer last week with not much markup and that's one of the rarest, hardest to find cards out there, for instance.

But I get the sense you just want to argue for the sake of arguing at this point. Does it matter whether this shortage is better or worse than HD58xx or 8800GTX? Not really. In all three cases there was an obvious supply-demand imbalance and prices rose as a result. I stand by my statement that we did see this kind of situation before, in 2009 and in ~2007 or so (foggy memory, it was around the time of the 8800GT or 8800GTX).