2gb or 4gb gtx760?

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ocre

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if you have issues you could always pick up a more powerful PSU. There are deals all the time.

As for the GTX770............................i would love to have one. You know since my daughter it seems i have really become much more a family man. There is little time for my hobby. I still have a great love for hardware its just getting harder to justify things when i spend so little time gaming these days. And i really dont have too much issues playing with what i got. Not yet anyway.
Perhaps these new consoles will force my hand. Until then its all envy!

Enjoy your new card
 

skipsneeky2

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if you have issues you could always pick up a more powerful PSU. There are deals all the time.

As for the GTX770............................i would love to have one. You know since my daughter it seems i have really become much more a family man. There is little time for my hobby. I still have a great love for hardware its just getting harder to justify things when i spend so little time gaming these days. And i really dont have too much issues playing with what i got. Not yet anyway.
Perhaps these new consoles will force my hand. Until then its all envy!

Enjoy your new card

I honestly understand that thing about justifying such things,my wife could have let me easily pick up a gtx780 and a new psu but i told her i just wanna max BF3 at 1200p and a gtx770 is all i should need.

Heck originally started this thread as at first i couldn't justify the $400 for the gtx770 then i came to the conclusion the extra $150 might get me a little more mileage as i do want a few years out of this card as this card is the final touch to my build as far as parts go.

Years ago,i could have easily said screw all else and go for the gtx780 even if i didn't need it cause i wanted it,now i drive my wife crazy attempting to justify such things and talking myself out of them lol,the power of marriage changes a man.:awe:
 

lessthanuthought

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Well i was up in the recent 7970ghz thread,made a post about considering the $320 7970ghz and a couple people figured with a stock clocked i5 2500 non k and a microatx mobo that my system shouldn't peak over 300w and my 12v with its 38amp does supply 456w...reviews show the gtx770 being fairly faster in some titles while the average power consumption over the 7970ghz is about 30-50w lower depending on review.....

Based on that i decided and just placed a order for the $389 zotac gtx770.:biggrin:

what 7970Ghz is 320??
 

skipsneeky2

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Got my card yesterday,first impressions are that of a very quality built card ,metal shroud covering it was a plus.The card itself isn't loud and i have not seen a load temp over 75cel with a 70% fanspeed enabled,think with a better case in the future or better fans i would decrease this load temp with a lower fanspeed but for now its fine.

Overclocking it to 1146 core and 8Ghz memory using Anandtechs overclocking results for the gtx770 has resulted in flawless gaming performance for the moment that is stable but honestly with all the reviews around 1146 core is pretty weak from what i am seeing lol.

My psu seems to be absolutely fine powering this without a issue,wacking out that hard drive cage took a hammer and a knife to wack out the rivets but gave me enough room to even fit a 7990 if i wanted to in there.:thumbsup:

Thanks everyone and the few who also convinced me the psu was fine,i was pretty nervous at first but your convincing info and insight made me one happy gamer and i am thankful for that.
 

Jaydip

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Got my card yesterday,first impressions are that of a very quality built card ,metal shroud covering it was a plus.The card itself isn't loud and i have not seen a load temp over 75cel with a 70% fanspeed enabled,think with a better case in the future or better fans i would decrease this load temp with a lower fanspeed but for now its fine.

Overclocking it to 1146 core and 8Ghz memory using Anandtechs overclocking results for the gtx770 has resulted in flawless gaming performance for the moment that is stable but honestly with all the reviews around 1146 core is pretty weak from what i am seeing lol.

My psu seems to be absolutely fine powering this without a issue,wacking out that hard drive cage took a hammer and a knife to wack out the rivets but gave me enough room to even fit a 7990 if i wanted to in there.:thumbsup:

Thanks everyone and the few who also convinced me the psu was fine,i was pretty nervous at first but your convincing info and insight made me one happy gamer and i am thankful for that.

It comes with Zotac "Firestorm" (?) oc software right? congrats on the card man.
 

skipsneeky2

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It comes with Zotac "Firestorm" (?) oc software right? congrats on the card man.

Not sure,i use Msi Afterburner and thanks man.:thumbsup:

Ever since the i7 900 series came out,my balls haven't dropped when it comes to overclocking anything lol,the 900 series looked so complicated to overclock i skipped the i7 920 and went for a i7 940 and ran it stock right alongside a gtx295 for like a whole year till i sold them both with a whole rig lol.

But of course if you knew me years earlier,i was the guy overclocking a 478 pentium 4 from 2.4ghz to 3.5ghz applying the core voltage that could make a preacher sweat,did some crazy stuff for a while with a Q6600 G0 as well but nehalem changed me lol.:awe:
 

Jaydip

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Not sure,i use Msi Afterburner and thanks man.:thumbsup:

Ever since the i7 900 series came out,my balls haven't dropped when it comes to overclocking anything lol,the 900 series looked so complicated to overclock i skipped the i7 920 and went for a i7 940 and ran it stock right alongside a gtx295 for like a whole year till i sold them both with a whole rig lol.

But of course if you knew me years earlier,i was the guy overclocking a 478 pentium 4 from 2.4ghz to 3.5ghz applying the core voltage that could make a preacher sweat,did some crazy stuff for a while with a Q6600 G0 as well but nehalem changed me lol.:awe:

Lol yes :biggrin: the 920 D0 was a beastly cheap, it was easy to achieve ~35% oc easily but the temps were through the roof.
 

skipsneeky2

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Lol yes :biggrin: the 920 D0 was a beastly cheap, it was easy to achieve ~35% oc easily but the temps were through the roof.

I remember selling it mostly cause i just hated how hot the thing ran,had it housed in a antec 1200 and it had huge a cooler master v8 heatsink on the cpu,all the case fans on high and it made so much noise and i remember GTA4 not supporting sli,so coming from a gtx280 to the gtx295 ended up giving me crap in the end cause of GTA4,game ran worst cause half a gtx295 was a gtx260 896mb i think lol and remembering the hell i had to go thru to get GTA4 to work with GFWL,i ended up hating that computer lol.

Amazing how far we have gone since then.
 

Jaydip

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I remember selling it mostly cause i just hated how hot the thing ran,had it housed in a antec 1200 and it had huge a cooler master v8 heatsink on the cpu,all the case fans on high and it made so much noise and i remember GTA4 not supporting sli,so coming from a gtx280 to the gtx295 ended up giving me crap in the end cause of GTA4,game ran worst cause half a gtx295 was a gtx260 896mb i think lol and remembering the hell i had to go thru to get GTA4 to work with GFWL,i ended up hating that computer lol.

Amazing how far we have gone since then.

Sadly not much on the cpu end
 

skipsneeky2

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Bleh,my psu is one cheap bastard case as i got my first lock up this morning,i noticed with a fully maxed out game @1200p i would dip as low as 31fps which if i recall was not a low for a gtx670 i used to have at one point.

I enable adaptive vsync,run the same settings that dropped me to 31fps and now it sits at a proper 45-46fps,this is slamming sticks of c4 on a van that is at the A flag on Metro,i decide to run all options enabled but this time all high and where i used to dip as low as 48fps or so suddenly it won't drop below 60fps lol.

Think a quality 650w psu is in order,thought corsair made some quality stuff,my system doesn't peak over 300 and the 12v supplies 456w.....
 
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skipsneeky2

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Just placed a order for a tx650 corsair,figured my old cx500 suffered some degradation as its about a year old and the tx650 is rated for 53amp on the 12v line,well above the 46amp and 600w requirements recommended by Evga and nvidia.

Till Monday or Tuesday when my tx650 arrives,i have enabled vsync @ 60fps and dropped my settings and resolution to control gpu usage and attempt to keep it at a max of 50%,thus far it has worked out well.:thumbsup:
 

RussianSensation

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Neither of those is Ghz.

Who cares? They are only slightly underclocked. 1Ghz 7970 is barely 3-4% slower than 7970GE. For $280 that mops the floor with 770 2GB cards as far as price performance goes.

770 2GB-4GB will not last longer than a 1Ghz 7970 for future games but in 18 months from now a gamer can just sell the 7970 and put $120-170 saved towards a 20nm GPU that will be 40-50% faster. The difference between an overclocked 770 and 7970 will be what 5%?
 

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skipsneeky2

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The 7970Ghzs crossed my mind but honestly i wanted a card i knew i could afford with the fastest out of the box experience,i had a 7850 not to long ago and i bought it over a 7870 and only cause everyone said it could reach 7870 anyways,ended up getting a doozy that went to a max of 1050 core just shy of a 7870 so the last time i buy based on ocing.

The 7970Ghz made me a little nervous as well installing in here with my cx500,i figured the gtx770 would be pushing it but all the reviews show the 7970Ghz pushing a extra 30-50w and a quality psu like the tx650 paired with the 7970Ghz would have went over my $400 budget,i was lucky enough the gtx770 i got was $396 shipped,the wife wouldn't let up even a nickel over $400 and i couldn't blame her as she was nice enough to let me spend more then the $340 i originally budgeted when i started this thread lol.
 

RussianSensation

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Uhm...no. The HD7970 is approximately 12% slower than a stock GTX770.
http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_770/27.html

That's 925mhz version you linked to. You can go out and buy 1000mhz 7970 for $280 as I said. Please read more carefully the cards I am comparing.

770 is not going to be 12% faster than a 1Ghz 7970 because it can't even beat a 1.05ghz 7970 once we average 1080p/1200/1440p/1600P:
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2013/nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-im-test/4/

In frame rates delivery it loses to 1.05ghz 7970 which means it will tie a 7970 1Ghz:
http://techreport.com/review/24996/nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-graphics-card-reviewed/10

770's price/performance in the US right now is awful.

The 7970Ghz made me a little nervous as well installing in here with my cx500,

After-market 7970s like Gigabyte, Sapphire use about 240-250W of power once overclocked to 1.175-1.225Ghz. 500W quality PSU like Corsair wouldn't even blink.

I don't know where you are getting that after-market 7970 cards use 50W more power than a 770.



 
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skipsneeky2

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Guru3d shows a 33w difference between the 7970Ghz and the gtx770,techpowerup shows a massive 58w difference in peak consumption while toms hardware seems a bit off from the other two just showing a 20w load difference.Not sure if these reviews are missing something that gives such power consumption readings,maybe boost clocks not kicking in?

Are guru3d and techpowerup like the worst reviewers to trust these days as i have trusted these reviewers since 2007 with the purchase of my 8800gts 512mb.Have heard some in the forums claim certain reviewers are more biased then others,not contradicting RussianSensation here but if reviewers are giving numbers way out of range,i need to update which reviewers to trust you know.

You would have thought the CW500 would have been plenty for either card but a year of usage and i guess it suffered some sort of degradation,you can smell something almost cooking in that psu and of course that lock up and piss poor framerate especially when the gpu is sitting at 99% for a long period of time and the only fix is vsync and dropped settings....
 

Lavans

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That's 925mhz version you linked to. You can go out and buy 1000mhz 7970 for $280 as I said. Please read more carefully the cards I am comparing.

I did read what you said. Either I didn't convey my response properly, or you're mad that I called you out on the old "overclocked A vs stock B" argument. Honestly, if someone is going to overclock a 7970, then they will likely overclock a 770.

770 is not going to be 12% faster than a 1Ghz 7970 because it can't even beat a 1.05ghz 7970 once we average 1080p/1200/1440p/1600P:
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2013/nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-im-test/4/

And you accuse me of not reading? If you took the time to read the article I posted, you'll find that the 770 is approximately 5% faster than a HD7970GE.
 
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skipsneeky2

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Got my tx650 psu today,installed and this psu with this card is running like a dream with no major complaints.

Maybe its the old perfectionist in me coming out but whats a safe max 24/7 load temp for this card?I might wanna fold with it for a bit and my card pushs about 2,000rpm per fan at 65% fanspeed and my loads can hit about 75cel....Never had a high end card aftermarket card so looking to see what i should expect here.
 
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