2nd Circuit Court of Appeals rules Trump admin can withhold grants from 'Sanctuary Cities'

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Vic

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Yes, they are. I'd love to live in Russia if it had a Constitution like ours and didn't censor the F out of their populace. You think I'd be allowed to post here if this was Russia? lol, let me know when they unban encrypted Telegram. However, they get many things correct like traditionalism and religion and strong borders.

Or corruption, classism, and imperialism to the non-cultists.
 

SP33Demon

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Many 'minorities' are opposed to the proposition that all persons are created equal, so I don't quite see your point. In fact, the most common argument of white supremacists, ironically, is that only white people are 'capable' of understanding this fundamental principle of classical liberalism. They're wrong, of course.
But thanks for the heads up that all racists, of any race, are for Trump.
Equal in what? Legal rights? Brain power? Athletic ability? Economic opportunity? No to all.
 

SP33Demon

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Or corruption, classism, and imperialism to the non-cultists.
That exists in every society of the world, except every society of the world doesn't have our 1st amendment with the 2nd just in case the 1st doesn't work out.
 

JEDIYoda

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That exists in every society of the world, except every society of the world doesn't have our 1st amendment with the 2nd just in case the 1st doesn't work out.
problem is some people use what you posted to justify their blatant racist tendencies.....go figure...
 

cytg111

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Everything bad that I don't agree with! Ok boomer
Just the Russian loving shit.. you know the country that has declared war on the west, the mafia state that has merged government with the economic sector with the crime world with the .... and turned it all into a autocracy dictatorship aimed at destroying the west... That Russia that “gets a lot right”? Ok comrade.
And I am very far from being a boomer. Trump face.
 

Viper1j

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It's really simple, if you don't agree with the Attorney General's rules then don't take the grant money. You can't have it both ways! Also, who in this forum really agrees that shielding criminals arrested for violent crimes makes our communities any safer? What is the point of sanctuary cities, to try and make the orange man mad while cutting off your nose to spite your face? It's ridiculous.

Simple fix. Just don't forward any funds collected by the state(s) to any federal agencies, raise the rent on buildings occupied by federal agencies 400% and charge a $2500.00 access "search" fee for every single inquiry to any state maintained database.

That should more than cover any grant money lost.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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For someone who loves the Constitution why aren't you as upset with Mitch, Trump and the GOP as a whole for blocking attempts to prevent foreign interference in our elections as you are with sanctuary cities and calling girls by another name?

That's rhetorical most likely.
 

brycejones

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did someone get some marching powder last night?
Speedy goes on these posting sprees when he thinks his side is winning and he strut around playing at being the alpha male. The second there is bad news for his team he disappears.

However its the most beta, low-t thing he could actually do.
 

Greenman

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Does this ruling mean there will be more funds available for city's that comply with federal law? It could end up being a winning deal for everyone if that's the case.
 

fskimospy

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Does this ruling mean there will be more funds available for city's that comply with federal law? It could end up being a winning deal for everyone if that's the case.

What federal law do you think these cities are not complying with? Remember, it would be blatantly unconstitutional for a federal law to say local law enforcement had to enforce federal law.
 

fskimospy

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I think people misunderstand what is at issue here, which is whether or not the conditions set by the DOJ to get very specific grant money are constitutional. Generally speaking the feds can require states to do things in order to qualify for federal grants but they can’t be unduly coercive.

The federal government can not compel local law enforcement to enforce or assist with enforcing federal immigration law though, that would shred the constitution and the 10th amendment, an amendment conservatives pretended to care about before they controlled the federal government.
 
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TheVrolok

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I think people misunderstand what is at issue here, which is whether or not the conditions set by the DOJ to get very specific grant money are constitutional. Generally speaking the feds can require states to do things in order to qualify for federal grants but they can’t be unduly coercive.

The federal government can not compel local law enforcement to enforce or assist with enforcing federal immigration law though, that would shred the constitution and the 10th amendment, an amendment conservatives pretended to care about before they controlled the federal government.
You can be certain that if a Democratic administration retake the white house, there will be renewed vigor for states rights and fiscal conservatism.
 
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fskimospy

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You can be certain that if a Democratic administration retake the white house, there will be renewed vigor for states rights and fiscal conservatism.
Oh yes. The 10th amendment society will flourish once again right after they fully supported a president obviously attacking New York State for having the temerity to investigate all the criminal activity he is engaged in.

I am amazed this isn’t getting more coverage in the news. A state is clearly investigating evidence of widespread criminal activity by the president that could very likely land him in prison and he is trying to weaponize the federal government in response to make them stop. Like, holy shit.
 

TheVrolok

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Oh yes. The 10th amendment society will flourish once again right after they fully supported a president obviously attacking New York State for having the temerity to investigate all the criminal activity he is engaged in.

I am amazed this isn’t getting more coverage in the news. A state is clearly investigating evidence of widespread criminal activity by the president that could very likely land him in prison and he is trying to weaponize the federal government in response to make them stop. Like, holy shit.
Unfortunately, for a number of reasons (... racism prime among them), a non insignificant portion of our population (and they vote!) do not seem to have a problem with a sovereign unitary executive (as long as it's their team).
 

SP33Demon

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Speedy goes on these posting sprees when he thinks his side is winning and he strut around playing at being the alpha male. The second there is bad news for his team he disappears.

However its the most beta, low-t thing he could actually do.
Highest approval rating ever, I'd say Trump is doing pretty well...
 

SP33Demon

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I think people misunderstand what is at issue here, which is whether or not the conditions set by the DOJ to get very specific grant money are constitutional. Generally speaking the feds can require states to do things in order to qualify for federal grants but they can’t be unduly coercive.

The federal government can not compel local law enforcement to enforce or assist with enforcing federal immigration law though, that would shred the constitution and the 10th amendment, an amendment conservatives pretended to care about before they controlled the federal government.
Nobody is being compelled. Don't take the money if you disagree with the Feds.
 

fskimospy

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