2TB Samsung Eco Green F4 $110 shipped AC @ newegg

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Zargon

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It's been around 6 months. The floods occurred in late October 2011.

The price increase has been mostly artificial, anyway, a scheme by the industry to get a breather to recover from the falling prices of platter drives... unfortunately for them, it has a secondary effect of giving SSD makers a chance to consolidate and go mainstream. Combined with the falling SSD prices (thanks to the Sandforce fiasco), many consumers are finding SSDs to be a necessity - and platter drives' main advantage, capacity, is becoming less of an advantage.

People no longer automatically consider making a 1TB or 2TB drive their main drive - for many, a 120GB or 240GB drive will do (and why not? platter drive makers kept the laptop drive "sweet spot" at 80GB for way too long). They take the tradeoff of speed over capacity... and the sweet spot is still around $200~250 for those consumers. It barely affects a system price.

Keeping the prices artificially high might give Seagate and WD a brief respite, but in the long term, it's yet another nail in their coffin. In 5 years, platter drives will be a specialty tech filling a specific niche - cheap storage server farms.

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aman74

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If you get more GB per dollar that means the prices are going down. Unless I'm misunderstanding something.

250GB for $250 = 1GB/dollar
250GB for $200 = 1.25GB/dollar

Yes, of course, my fault for reading on no sleep. I was reading the GB amount as the dollar amount as that's usually how I see it written.
 

lazarus000

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anyone use one of these in a DVR?

curious about how it would perform because the last green drive i used in a DVR had some audio stutter.
 

notposting

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I bought 2 of these last summer for $70/ea. Ended up selling them because they wouldn't play nice with my WHS v1 build (these are 4K sector drives). Sold them for $25 each after a couple weeks of use right after the floods (sigh). However, our server is full of Green drives, mostly WD, works fine over the network (even while ripping a DVD, playing back a movie, and having something new recording, granted this scenario probably has multiple drives in use at once).

In retrospect I should have held on to them, could've started a transition to a W8 (WHS v3?) setup with them, or use as externals to transfer files to temporarily. C'est la vie. Otherwise these are pretty highly regarded drives.
 

Mike64

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This or the seagate barracuda 2TB 7200 RPM for the same price with promo code? From reviews, it seems the samsung is more reliable.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-22148834-L01B
Well, the Samsung is a much more mature product, so that wouldn't be surprising. But it's hard to judge from online reviews, and the Seagate has only 1/20 the the number of reviews as the Samsung, which isn't much of a sample size when you think about it.

But fwiw, also note that the Samsung has a 3 year warranty, the Seagate, only one year.
 

kalrith

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anyone use one of these in a DVR?

curious about how it would perform because the last green drive i used in a DVR had some audio stutter.

I use the WD green drive in my HTPC. It has no problems recording two OTA HD shows at once while playing another one. I even run Windows off of it

Edit: I really need to buy another drive for my HTPC. I use it as my file server as well, and I have to very frequently clear space off of it. Doubling the space with one of these drives would be great, but I hate how high the prices are compared with the pre-flood prices.
 

Mike64

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This or the seagate barracuda 2TB 7200 RPM for the same price with promo code? From reviews, it seems the samsung is more reliable.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-22148834-L01B
Fwiw, also note that the Seagate has only a one-year warranty compared to Samsung's 3 years.

ETA: As for reliability, I think the only thing you can safely say is the Seagate is a relative unknown, and may still have some production kinks being worked out, whereas the Samsung has a proven track record by now. (The Seagate has only been on the market for ~6 months and has 1/20th the number of reviews compared to the F4 over on Newegg.)
 
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Xonim

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I currently have 3 of these F4's (just ordered a 4th with this sale), and a WD Green drive. All have been working well for ~1 year so far, but the Samsung drives are noticeably faster with writing new data. I can't recommend them enough...as long as Seagate hasn't already messed with the quality...
 

notposting

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I hope prices come down a bit more by this summer. The home server is down to only a few TB of free space
 

Holler

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been rocking 4 of these drives for over a year in a Raid 5 external enclosure ESATA setup... rock solid and super quiet/cool. streams HD media fine too to my 360 and PC.

too bad seagate owns samsung now... maybe it'll improve seagate but I doubt it. had bad luck with seagate drives (click of death).
 

will792

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I bought 2 of these last summer for $70/ea. Ended up selling them because they wouldn't play nice with my WHS v1 build (these are 4K sector drives). Sold them for $25 each after a couple weeks of use right after the floods (sigh). However, our server is full of Green drives, mostly WD, works fine over the network (even while ripping a DVD, playing back a movie, and having something new recording, granted this scenario probably has multiple drives in use at once).

In retrospect I should have held on to them, could've started a transition to a W8 (WHS v3?) setup with them, or use as externals to transfer files to temporarily. C'est la vie. Otherwise these are pretty highly regarded drives.

I did not have any problems using F4 in WHS v1. I had to do rather convoluted procedure to align partition (creating numerous registry entries and some files) but it worked perfectly. Eventually I migrated to WHS 2011 where F4 is giving me consistent 100+ MB/s read performance (from client PC side, so it includes network). This drive has lower temperature than 1TB WD Green drive. I plan to buy more of those and run in Raid-1 connected to low end LSI controller (less than $40 on eBay).
 

notposting

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I did not have any problems using F4 in WHS v1. I had to do rather convoluted procedure to align partition (creating numerous registry entries and some files) but it worked perfectly. Eventually I migrated to WHS 2011 where F4 is giving me consistent 100+ MB/s read performance (from client PC side, so it includes network). This drive has lower temperature than 1TB WD Green drive. I plan to buy more of those and run in Raid-1 connected to low end LSI controller (less than $40 on eBay).

Yeah, I had already tried such things to avoid using the jumpers on the WD's and happily escaped from that near disaster. Wasn't going to try again. Some were having them work with no problems at all (and no configuring) under WHS v1. I didn't (basically every few days it would toss an error at me and I could have it "check" the disk and all would be fine). And didn't want to deal with it.
 

fstime

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Are all Samsung drives made by Seagate at this point?

A tip for some of you, Seagate's warranty used to be 5 years, I recently picked up a 3 TB 7200 rpm Barracuda for $180 at BB and it had a 5 year warranty.
 
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