3.2Ghz Pentium G3258 Overclocked To 6.8Ghz

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notty22

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I have the Intel HSF from I5 750 (95 watt) in my lap.
It's thin Aluminum section but has the copper plug.


 

kevinsbane

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The G3220 heatsink does not have a copper plug. I noticed that when I installed it into my NAS server.
The i3-4130 does have the plug. I noticed that when I installed it into a custom build.
 

Gigantopithecus

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The G3220 heatsink does not have a copper plug. I noticed that when I installed it into my NAS server.
The i3-4130 does have the plug. I noticed that when I installed it into a custom build.

I've put 13 4130s into machines over the last year and not one of them has come with a copper plug heatsink. Only i5s and i7s come with those, in my experience.
 

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I'm glad to find out Intel does include the upgraded stock cooler with Pentium 3258.

That was a nice touch indeed!
 

Bungz

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The G3258 does indeed come with a beefier cooler, which while a nice thought I would imagine most people are going to stick it under a aftermarket cooler.

Will give mine a run through its paces tomorrow hopefully
 

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Let's be realistic here: there won't be any "future Intel unlocked dual-cores." :/

I really wish there would be an unlocked i3, though, even if they were to limit it to like 4.5GHz

In about two months Haswell-E i7 5820K (6 cores/12 threads) should launch low to mid $300 range.

I'm thinking this might could cause some price compression on the mainstream platform especially as DDR4 prices drop. Why buy 4C/8T i7 for ~$300 if 6C/12T is around the same price?

Therefore price compression might be another reason for Intel to start releasing unlocked dual cores. (re: i5 and i7 quad core may not carry the same degree of premium pricing as they did previously)
 

VirtualLarry

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In about two months Haswell-E i7 5820K (6 cores/12 threads) should launch low to mid $300 range.
I highly doubt that.

I'm thinking this might could cause some price compression on the mainstream platform especially as DDR4 prices drop. Why buy 4C/8T i7 for ~$300 if 6C/12T is around the same price?

Therefore price compression might be another reason for Intel to start releasing unlocked dual cores. (re: i5 and i7 quad core may not carry the same degree of premium pricing as they did previously)
Again, Intel controls the high-end x86 market. Why would they intentionally inflict "price compression" on themselves? I just don't buy it.
 

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In about two months Haswell-E i7 5820K (6 cores/12 threads) should launch low to mid $300 range.

I highly doubt that.

http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...poration-may-be-giving-hardcore-gamers-a.aspx



Intel Corporation May Be Giving Hardcore Gamers a Treat

By Ashraf Eassa
May 27, 2014

For those of you unfamiliar with how Intel (NASDAQ: INTC ) does business in the desktop market, the company has two main product lines. The first is its set of "mainstream" processors under the Core i3, i5, and i7 brands. These chips usually sport 2-4 processor cores, integrated graphics, and are very similar to the company's notebook/mobile designs. The second is the "enthusiast" line of processors. These, unlike the mainstream products, are based on the company's workstation/server models, sport more cores, and don't bother with integrated graphics. With its upcoming lineup, Intel may be giving hardcore gamers a treat.

Moving to a six core minimum
According to coolaler.com, Intel plans to launch three new "enthusiast" models this year based on the Haswell CPU architecture. The Core i7-5960X, is the highest end of the bunch with eight CPU cores, a base frequency of 3.0 GHz, and support for DDR4-2133. Moving down the stack, Intel is apparently going to offer a Core i7-5930K, which reduces the core count to six, but the base frequency is higher, at 3.5GHz. Finally, the lowest end of the bunch will be the Core i7-5820K, which is also a six core, but reduces the base frequency to 3.3 GHz and cuts the number of PCI Express lanes from 40 to 28.

To put this in perspective, the top-end model (at the $1,000 price point) goes from six Ivy Bridge cores to eight Haswell cores. The middle SKU stays at six cores, but each core is more capable, and the chip has more on-die cache and support for faster memory. Finally, in the Ivy Bridge generation, the 4820K was a four core at 3.7 GHz base, but at this price point, Intel will now apparently be offering a six core at 3.3 GHz base (but remember, the cores themselves are faster per-clock) with a whopping 15MB of L3 cache.

The i7-5820K likely to sell extremely well
Just look at NVIDIA's (NASDAQ: NVDA ) or Advanced Micro Devices' (NYSE: AMD ) financial results -- hardcore gamers are buying high-performance graphics cards in droves. Gamers are not shy about shelling out hundreds of dollars for top-end gear, and when they perceive there to be an extreme "bargain," they are more than willing to upgrade perfectly good hardware just to eke out extra performance from their demanding games.

Same thing goes for CPUs. The Ivy Bridge enthusiast lineup was a real yawner (barely any performance improvement from the Sandy Bridge generation, but Intel got a cost-structure advantage from the shrink), but if Intel ends up offering the i7-5820K at the same (roughly) $330 price point of its predecessor, then this would be a nearly unprecedented value in the desktop chip space. Intel would be selling a six-core Haswell for roughly the same price as the four-core Haswell on the cheaper platform, but the trade-off is a more expensive platform (the X99 chipset will be more expensive than the Z97), more expensive memory (DDR4 will be new and thus pricier), and lack of integrated graphics.

For most users, this trade-off wouldn't make sense, but for the enthusiasts/gamers this is targeted at, this seems almost like a no-brainer if Intel keeps the price points roughly similar from generation to generation.
 

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Again, Intel controls the high-end x86 market. Why would they intentionally inflict "price compression" on themselves? I just don't buy it.

Intel can't reasonably expect to keep on selling mainstream quad cores (with roughly the same price and overclocked performance) for so many years in a row. (January 2011 to current).

Therefore Intel must eventually offer a good reason to upgrade.

After three plus years (actually almost four years) of relative stagnation in the $300+ mainstream enthusiast area, The six core at $330 makes sense.
 
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Techhog

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I highly doubt that.

Are you doubting that the 5820K will have 6 cores, or that it'll be in the $300 range? Intel doesn't traditionally change the price brackets of their CPUs, and combined with the fact that the X99 platform and DDR4 add about $100+ to the price of entry, it's not exactly crazy. I don't see Intel raising the cost of the entry level E CPU above $400 unless they eliminate that tier completely.
 

AtenRa

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Are you doubting that the 5820K will have 6 cores, or that it'll be in the $300 range? Intel doesn't traditionally change the price brackets of their CPUs, and combined with the fact that the X99 platform and DDR4 add about $100+ to the price of entry, it's not exactly crazy. I don't see Intel raising the cost of the entry level E CPU above $400 unless they eliminate that tier completely.

5820k will be close to $399-429.

From Skylake and after, Intel will want to sell more 6-core HEDT CPUs at $299 than Mainstream quad cores + iGPUs. Simple because 6-core CPUs will have smaller dies and that translates to higher profits

ps: unless they are obsessed with high GPU market share.
 

venkman

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4.4 Ghz On mine with the stock cooler no problem. Temps top out at about 70C under Prime95. Bought this because my 920/x58 finally bit the bullet as stop gap until upgrading to a hexcore-DDR4 system.
 

crashtech

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I couldn't resist trying one out with combo deals going for less than $75, even though I had other reason to do it except for some good clean fun. I'll be posting my results by the weekend, I think.
 

Puppies04

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Intel can't reasonably expect to keep on selling mainstream quad cores (with roughly the same price and overclocked performance) for so many years in a row. (January 2011 to current).

Whilst I read the stuff you typed after this I don't see where your proof of this statement is so I ignored it.
 

dualsmp

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I'd like to see a test between the G3258 and the older i3 540 both set a 4.4 Ghz and test about 20 games, that would be an interesting test. The hyperthreading on the i3 540 would likely beat the Pentium in some games.
 

cbn

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I'd like to see a test between the G3258 and the older i3 540 both set a 4.4 Ghz and test about 20 games, that would be an interesting test. The hyperthreading on the i3 540 would likely beat the Pentium in some games.

Good idea, but I bet the overclocked Pentium 3258 would beat the overclocked i3 540 (or 530).

For whatever reason those old Clarkdales had lower than expected IPC for that generation of chip.
 

VirtualLarry

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Same thing goes for CPUs. The Ivy Bridge enthusiast lineup was a real yawner (barely any performance improvement from the Sandy Bridge generation, but Intel got a cost-structure advantage from the shrink), but if Intel ends up offering the i7-5820K at the same (roughly) $330 price point of its predecessor, then this would be a nearly unprecedented value in the desktop chip space. Intel would be selling a six-core Haswell for roughly the same price as the four-core Haswell on the cheaper platform, but the trade-off is a more expensive platform (the X99 chipset will be more expensive than the Z97), more expensive memory (DDR4 will be new and thus pricier), and lack of integrated graphics.

You bolded the wrong part of the quote. Let me help you. This pricing of $330 or so is nothing but mere speculation on the part of fool.com.
 

cbn

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You bolded the wrong part of the quote. Let me help you. This pricing of $330 or so is nothing but mere speculation on the part of fool.com.

My mistake.

It is speculation, but it is speculation that has a lot of logic behind it.

I would be surprised if i7-5820K hexcore wasn't priced around where he said it would be.
 

crashtech

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I don't think Intel is going to essentially give 2 CPU cores away just to entice users to the HEDT platform. The lowest logical price for a hexcore would be around $450-495.
 

AtenRa

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I don't think Intel is going to essentially give 2 CPU cores away just to entice users to the HEDT platform. The lowest logical price for a hexcore would be around $450-495.

If 5820K is a single die like Core i7 3820 was, then it could be smaller than Core i7 4790K. They could price it at $399 and make more profit than any socket 1150 sku.
The only thing is, do they want enthusiasts converting to HEAD platform or Intel still wants to raise its GPU market share ??

And then you could have a 8-core 14nm die that is smaller than Broadwell Quad Core + GT3 iGPU next year. Do you push enthusiasts to HEAD platform and make more profit or stay at mainstream and keep the GPU market share ??

Lets wait and see, so close to Haswell-E release now
 
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