3 5-Star hotels, Westerners taken hostage, 172 dead in India

[StageLeft]

These people are animals. They need to be purged from humanity.

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BTW, why can't you twats for a moment put down your republican or democrat dildos, for God's sake give it a fvcking rest. This has nothing to do with Iraq or Obama or anything else like that. India has had terrorism problems for many years.

 

[vhx]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Interestingly, there WAS a credible threat that AQ-linked militants were planning to attack NYC subway trains, so I don't think the possibility of a globally-coordinated attack is outside the realm of possibility.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/11/...ransit.plot/index.html

Federal authorities have received a "plausible but unsubstantiated"

"plausible but unsubstantiated"

unsubstantiated"

That's not really credible. Lol.

Does anyone actually believe if there were real plots on the subway, the government would announce that they were onto them? Doubtful, that is, if you wanted a chance to capture them before they went boom. IMO more scare tactics just like around election time.

On topic: Pathetic on their part to take it all out on innocent people. Disgusting.

 

[fallout man]

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Ahh, the Religion of Peace. Coming to a hospital near you. Never fear, The Obamessiah will talk to them......

Oh, go blow it out your ass, toolshed.



What a terrible tragedy. I have friends from Bombay, and I pray that they and their families didn't get caught up in this mess.

For those that were hurt and killed...

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
The gift of British colonialism. It never stops.

:laugh:

I somehow knew that radical Muslims attacking India would be the fault of the evil white man.


Some of you are pure comedy gold.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
The gift of British colonialism. It never stops.

:laugh:

I somehow knew that radical Muslims attacking India would be the fault of the evil white man.


Some of you are pure comedy gold.

CanOWorms is a unique beast on this board. EVERYTHING is the fault of Europe for him. See my sig.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
The gift of British colonialism. It never stops.

:laugh:

I somehow knew that radical Muslims attacking India would be the fault of the evil white man.


Some of you are pure comedy gold.

The British Empire definitely has done its part. Your holocaust denial-like history revisionism is just sad.

 

[GoingUp]

Fox news is showing people in airports and talking about baggage fees. How lame.

 

[Aimster]

I hate that part of the world

except for Turkey Israel

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
The gift of British colonialism. It never stops.

:laugh:

I somehow knew that radical Muslims attacking India would be the fault of the evil white man.


Some of you are pure comedy gold.

The British Empire definitely has done its part. Your holocaust denial-like history revisionism is just sad.

What's sad is that these people probably aren't even revising history, they just don't know it and have a kneejerk reaction that it can't be Europe's fault. It is obvious to anyone with half a brain that the conflict between India and Pakistan, as well as Bangledeshi terror groups, is directly the result of colonialism. As is most of the problems in the Middle East, caused by the mandate system. This isn't anyone trying to make connections, it is just simple history.

FWIW, just to show I'm not in the blame America first crowd, we actually had a lot of respect from the Middle East during the early part of the last century. After WWII when Europe was splitting up the ME amongst themselves, Syria basically outlined its preferences--1) Independence, 2) American mandate to control the area, 3) British mandate, 4) French mandate. They got the French, but they wanted us because we were seen as fair-minded people.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Farang
It is obvious to anyone with half a brain that the conflict between India and Pakistan, as well as Bangledeshi terror groups, is directly the result of colonialism. ...
FWIW, just to show I'm not in the blame America first crowd.

Of course you aren't in the blame-America first crowd. You're in the euro/french hater freedom-fries crowd.

How old is Islam?
How old is Hinduism?
When did the two religions begin to have violent conflicts?
Now ask yourself when the Europeans colonized India and Pakistan.

See how you're wrong?

I'm not saying European colonialism helped the situation but pretending there is some causal connection is ridiculous.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: Farang
It is obvious to anyone with half a brain that the conflict between India and Pakistan, as well as Bangledeshi terror groups, is directly the result of colonialism.

Partly a result of it - not directly. It is also partly the fault of religion and poverty.

And please don't back up CanOworms, he only has a valid point by pure coincidence, he blames Europe whenever he stubs his toe and hates the lot of us.

The British Empire fucked up India pretty bad for a while, but the British Empire doesn't exist any more, and neither I nor my parents nor their parents had anything to do with it.

1) Independence, 2) American mandate to control the area, 3) British mandate, 4) French mandate. They got the French, but they wanted us because we were seen as fair-minded people.

Those countries are listed in order of millitary power. That may have been why.

 

[Fear No Evil]

This is why I have a concealed weapons permit in Florida.. With 500,000+ of my follow citizens following suit in this state, I refuse to be a victim. If they are going to kill me, I am going to punch a few holes in them before they do. This kind of thing pisses me off like no other. Kill these idiots, kill them quickly.. No trials, no talking, no prison, DEATH.

I also believe there is a reason why this type of thing continues to happen in countries like Pakistan and India.. because they refuse to deal with their own terrorism problems. There is simply no way that you would have these type of things happen in the United States.. We just wouldn't stand for it.. I am sure a lot of the looney left on this forum would say our reaction to 9/11 was an overeaction.. But I think its also why they have not attempted another attack in the United States.. WE REACTED.. we didn't stand for it.. we didn't accept it, and we weren't afraid to defend ourselves.

These countries need to act swiftly and put an end to this situation, then they need to collectively decide that they are not going to put up with this anymore.. Only then will things change.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
There is simply no way that you would have these type of things happen in the United States.

It would if we had a large enough muslim population that couldn't be readily distinguished from the non-muslim population.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
This is why I have a concealed weapons permit in Florida.. With 500,000+ of my follow citizens following suit in this state, I refuse to be a victim. If they are going to kill me, I am going to punch a few holes in them before they do. This kind of thing pisses me off like no other. Kill these idiots, kill them quickly.. No trials, no talking, no prison, DEATH.

Oh you are pure gold for the gun thread Perfect example of the law-abiding gun-carrying sensible citizen LOL. No trails? No evidence? Certainly comrade! Round up all the ones with brown skin!

But I think its also why they have not attempted another attack in the United States.. WE REACTED.. we didn't stand for it.. we didn't accept it, and we weren't afraid to defend ourselves.

These people work in the long term. The USA will probably be hit again. And us too.

 

[Azndude2190]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
No trials, no talking, no prison, DEATH.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
There is simply no way that you would have these type of things happen in the United States.

It would if we had a large enough muslim population that couldn't be readily distinguished from the non-muslim population.

You can't tell a Muslim from a non-Muslim.

People in the U.S see a middle eastern and assume they are Muslim.

A Muslim can be white black asian midddle eastern etc

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Updated with some Twitter links

Some fast "facts". I make no claim as to the accuracy of them.

1. Mumbai's central train line has been stopped
2. AK-47 shootings reported near hotels and a hospital
3. Two of the blasts are suspected grenade attacks
4. Encounter with terrorists inside Hotel Oberoi1
5. Terrorists inside Oberoi Hotel are throwing bombs from windows1
6. BP Petrol pump blown up in Colaba1
7. Encounters with police continue at hospitals and at movie theaters1
8. Cities of Delhi and Gujarat are on high alert
9. Taj Mahal Palace Hotel also attacked
10. Explosion on the roof of Taj Hotel2
11. Two young terrorists took people with UK and USA passports hostage
12. Huge explosions reported inside Hotel Oberoi and Taj Mahal Palace Hotel

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Aimster

A Muslim can be white black asian midddle eastern etc

I didn't say they couldn't be. And they CAN be these other races but ignoring the pattern is silly.

 

[sciwizam]

CNN-IBN live link from CNN.

http://edition.cnn.com/video/f...ve.html?stream=stream2

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
This is why I have a concealed weapons permit in Florida.. With 500,000+ of my follow citizens following suit in this state, I refuse to be a victim. If they are going to kill me, I am going to punch a few holes in them before they do. This kind of thing pisses me off like no other. Kill these idiots, kill them quickly.. No trials, no talking, no prison, DEATH.

I also believe there is a reason why this type of thing continues to happen in countries like Pakistan and India.. because they refuse to deal with their own terrorism problems. There is simply no way that you would have these type of things happen in the United States.. We just wouldn't stand for it.. I am sure a lot of the looney left on this forum would say our reaction to 9/11 was an overeaction.. But I think its also why they have not attempted another attack in the United States.. WE REACTED.. we didn't stand for it.. we didn't accept it, and we weren't afraid to defend ourselves.

These countries need to act swiftly and put an end to this situation, then they need to collectively decide that they are not going to put up with this anymore.. Only then will things change.

Are you being serious?

 

[cubeless]

anybody else see any response in other places to this? i'm in medellin on business and when i wandered over to the mall by the hotel to look for a cigar there seem to be a bunch of soldier types in addition to the regular gun toting guard types... no rifles, but all have sidearms so i don't think they are just shopping (in groups of three)...

i heard on the tv that they'd just shut down the extra security at the taj... i think that the security business is going to be booming...

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: Farang
It is obvious to anyone with half a brain that the conflict between India and Pakistan, as well as Bangledeshi terror groups, is directly the result of colonialism.

Partly a result of it - not directly. It is also partly the fault of religion and poverty.

And please don't back up CanOworms, he only has a valid point by pure coincidence, he blames Europe whenever he stubs his toe and hates the lot of us.

The British Empire fucked up India pretty bad for a while, but the British Empire doesn't exist any more, and neither I nor my parents nor their parents had anything to do with it.

1) Independence, 2) American mandate to control the area, 3) British mandate, 4) French mandate. They got the French, but they wanted us because we were seen as fair-minded people.

Those countries are listed in order of millitary power. That may have been why.

First point you are correct. I don't mean directly to mean "completely," obviously later events had to do with causing the situation we have now.

Second point I was referring to Syria right after WWI. It was a result of Wilson being very idealistic and forcing the League of Nations to allow for eventual self-determination, but the Europeans paid lip services to his demands and went behind his back to split up the region amongst themselves. The Syrians had been dealing with European imperialism for years and just trusted the Americans more at the time.

Just an anecdote, there is a indent in the border of Jordan that historians do not know why it exists. There are no ethnic separations there nor geographic markings that would cause it. Churchill once bragged that he created Jordan one Sunday afternoon, and there is a joke/rumor that he was drinking and hiccuped, causing the indentation. This is just sort of an example of how the British really screwed up the world.

 

[kalster]

the whole belt along the Pakistan/Afghanistan border needs to be bombed back to stone age, its the breeding ground for all these terrorist organizations. seeing my country attacked repeatedly is disgusting

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
The gift of British colonialism. It never stops.

British colonialism caused Islamic terror in India. You should stick to blaming the zionists.

British colonialism created the environment to let stuff like this flourish. You should stick to denying the Holocaust.

Please enlighten us oh wise one, what "environment" did British colonialism create to "let stuff like this flourish"?

The creation of Pakistan/E. Pakistan (now Bangladesh) and Israel are pretty strong causes of terrorism thanks to Britain's colonial legacy. I'm sure there's many more.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: kalster
the whole belt along the Pakistan/Afghanistan border needs to be bombed back to stone age, its the breeding ground for all these terrorist organizations. seeing my country attacked repeatedly is disgusting

Remember back when Powell was doing a debriefing (think it was Afghanistan) and he couldn't tell the before pics from the after pics :laugh: