Take out your rage on someone your own age, freak.
Why call her a slut?
Are both the boys sluts?
you fucking disgust me with your bullshit
how about relying on facts and not your paranoid sexist assumptions?
Grow the fuck up.
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
Why are we charging these kids at all, though? Honestly, how does prosecuting these kids help protect society? Or is that no longer the purpose of law and punishment...??
Because the sweet innocent girl was harmed and she is upset. How was she to know having sex while a 3rd person was holding a camera was being taped. And then when her parents found out and/or the guy broke up with her she had her parents contact the police.
I am betting there is more to the story. This dumb slut is just using the police and it will get out I bet.
Originally posted by: mugs
The reason for the 'wiretapping' charge is obvious if she really didn't know she was being taped.
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Nanny government, protecting people from themselves.
Originally posted by: shira
The stated intent of the child pornography laws is to prevent the abuse of children. Cracking down on sexters as "child pornographers" is clearly at odds with that stated purpose. Similarly, going after the teenage boys involved in this latest incident as child pornographers has nothing whatever to do with protecting children. Arguably, the incident was a violation of the girl's privacy (to be determined), but not much more than that.
I'm betting those who prosecute these so-called crimes have strong Christian "values."
Originally posted by: thraashman
This reminds me of a friend who took a video on her phone of her going down on a guy, and sent the video to a friend, but sent it to the wrong number and apparantly made some random guy very happy to receive an interesting video message.
Ah how technology can just screw us all over.
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: mugs
16 years old is not junior high.
I hope.
The reason for the 'wiretapping' charge is obvious if she really didn't know she was being taped.
some schools 9th grade is still Junior High. It's possible to be 16 and in 9th grade.
Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: mugs
16 years old is not junior high.
I hope.
The reason for the 'wiretapping' charge is obvious if she really didn't know she was being taped.
some schools 9th grade is still Junior High. It's possible to be 16 and in 9th grade.
huh? I graduated high school (12th grade) at 17. 16 in the 9th grade is way to old.
Originally posted by: tweaker2
Well, future porn stars have to come from somewhere.
Seriously though, it's upbringing. It's all in the upbringing.
Doesn't matter if these kids thought this up all on their own. As these kids are minors, the parents should be held responsible, just as I would feel responsible if any of my children ever pulled a stupid stunt like that.
Originally posted by: LumbergTech
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
Why are we charging these kids at all, though? Honestly, how does prosecuting these kids help protect society? Or is that no longer the purpose of law and punishment...??
Because the sweet innocent girl was harmed and she is upset. How was she to know having sex while a 3rd person was holding a camera was being taped. And then when her parents found out and/or the guy broke up with her she had her parents contact the police.
I am betting there is more to the story. This dumb slut is just using the police and it will get out I bet.
Take out your rage on someone your own age, freak.
Why call her a slut?
Are both the boys sluts?
you fucking disgust me with your bullshit
how about relying on facts and not your paranoid sexist assumptions?
Grow the fuck up.
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: mugs
16 years old is not junior high.
I hope.
The reason for the 'wiretapping' charge is obvious if she really didn't know she was being taped.
What punishment do you think would be appropriate for a junior high (middle school) student charged with "wiretapping"?
I guess that depends on whether she is your daughter or my daughter.
Are you assuming the girl wasnt a willing participant? How about your daughter, and she was? Whats the difference?
I'm assuming that even if the girl (who ever's girl it was) knew it was being recorded (which I doubt) she did not want/intend for it to be distributed around her high school, possibly even ending up on the interent??
If I was the father of this girl those punks would have more to worry about then the cops!!!
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
So the other guy standing in the room holding the camera was not recording that? If she thought that then she must be an idiot and have an idiot for a father that raised her.
But nice to see that if your kid turned out like this you try and deflect the blame.
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
If you were the father of this girl you should be busy worrying about your slut daughter.
Originally posted by: LumbergTech
Take out your rage on someone your own age, freak.
Why call her a slut?
Are both the boys sluts?
you fucking disgust me with your bullshit
how about relying on facts and not your paranoid sexist assumptions?
Grow the fuck up.
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: mugs
16 years old is not junior high.
I hope.
The reason for the 'wiretapping' charge is obvious if she really didn't know she was being taped.
What punishment do you think would be appropriate for a junior high (middle school) student charged with "wiretapping"?
I guess that depends on whether she is your daughter or my daughter.
Are you assuming the girl wasnt a willing participant? How about your daughter, and she was? Whats the difference?
I'm assuming that even if the girl (who ever's girl it was) knew it was being recorded (which I doubt) she did not want/intend for it to be distributed around her high school, possibly even ending up on the interent??
If I was the father of this girl those punks would have more to worry about then the cops!!!
Assuming she was a willing participant, why would you go after the guys? Shit, its not their fault. It would be hers. *IF* she was a willing participant Its like people who say if their spouse had an affair they would go after the other person. Fuck that...I would go after my spouse!
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: tweaker2
Well, future porn stars have to come from somewhere.
Seriously though, it's upbringing. It's all in the upbringing.
Doesn't matter if these kids thought this up all on their own. As these kids are minors, the parents should be held responsible, just as I would feel responsible if any of my children ever pulled a stupid stunt like that.
In this digital age we live in it has become very easy to do some very stupid and record it for the world to see. Apparently these kids dont know that that once the content they created and sent out it will find a way for everyone to see. I dont think they should charged with child porn, but but we cant charge them for being stupid either. Maybe a new law for unlawful distribution of material, but that would probably be difficult as well.
Originally posted by: Eomer of Aldburg
Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: mugs
16 years old is not junior high.
I hope.
The reason for the 'wiretapping' charge is obvious if she really didn't know she was being taped.
some schools 9th grade is still Junior High. It's possible to be 16 and in 9th grade.
huh? I graduated high school (12th grade) at 17. 16 in the 9th grade is way to old.
16 year old is either late 10th grade or early 11th grade.
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
^^^^
1) could be valid don't know MA law
2) Not relevant what she wanted done with the tape.
3) Think your giving the boys too much credit and there isn't a rape charge.
The alleged victim, a girl under 16, told them she did not realize she was being captured on cell phone.
The video was then distributed among students at Holbrook Junior-Senior High School, police said, and the charges that may be leveled against the teens are serious as the forwarding of such a video, also known as "sexting," is a felony offense.
The alleged victim, a girl under 16, told them she did not realize she was being captured on cell phone.
Originally posted by: KentState
Originally posted by: Eomer of Aldburg
Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: mugs
16 years old is not junior high.
I hope.
The reason for the 'wiretapping' charge is obvious if she really didn't know she was being taped.
some schools 9th grade is still Junior High. It's possible to be 16 and in 9th grade.
huh? I graduated high school (12th grade) at 17. 16 in the 9th grade is way to old.
16 year old is either late 10th grade or early 11th grade.
9th is 14-15
10th is 15-16
11th is 16-17
12th is 17-18
That means you can turn 16 at any point during the 10th grade school year. I was only 15 for one month and some kids had birthday's earlier in September. I know I'm about 9 months old than my best friend and he always turned the same age after school was out.
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
^^^^
1) could be valid don't know MA law
2) Not relevant what she wanted done with the tape.
3) Think your giving the boys too much credit and there isn't a rape charge.
1.) According to the article she says she didn't know she was being taped.
The alleged victim, a girl under 16, told them she did not realize she was being captured on cell phone.
2.) WTF, don't you have a brain or are you one of those thinking with their dicks??
The video was then distributed among students at Holbrook Junior-Senior High School, police said, and the charges that may be leveled against the teens are serious as the forwarding of such a video, also known as "sexting," is a felony offense.
3.) I'm not giving the bous ANY credit. They were idiots and deserve whatever charges happen to apply to them.
The alleged victim, a girl under 16, told them she did not realize she was being captured on cell phone.
(CBS/ AP) While it may be shocking, the practice of "sexting" - sending nude pictures via text message - is not unusual, especially for high schoolers around the country.
This week, three teenage girls who allegedly sent nude or semi-nude cell phone pictures of themselves, and three male classmates in a western Pennsylvania high school who received them, are charged with child pornography.
In October a Texas eighth-grader spent the night in a juvenile detention center after his football coach found a nude picture on his cell phone that a fellow student sent him.
Roughly 20 percent of teens admit to participating in "sexting," according to a nationwide survey (pdf) by the National Campaign to Support Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy.
"This is a serious felony. They could be facing many years in prison," CBS News legal analyst Lisa Bloom said of the six teens in Pennsylvania.
But, Bloom added, "What are we going to do, lock up 20 percent of America's teens?"
Police in Greensburg, about 30 miles east of Pittsburgh, say the girls are 14 or 15 and the boys charged with receiving the photos are 16 or 17. None are being identified because most criminal cases in Pennsylvania juvenile courts are not public.
Police say they first learned about the pictures in October. They say a student had a phone turned on in class, a violation of school policy, which prompted an administrator to confiscate the phone and subsequently find the pictures, reports CBS station
Though youth is fleeting, images sent on a cell phone or posted online may not be, especially if they're naughty.
Teenagers' habit of distributing nude self-portraits electronically - often called "sexting" if it's done by cell phone - has parents and school administrators worried. Some prosecutors have begun charging teens who send and receive such images with child pornography and other serious felonies. But is that the best way to handle it?
"Hopefully we'll get the message out to these kids," says Michael McAlexander, a prosecutor in Allen County, Ind., which includes Fort Wayne. A teenage boy there is facing felony obscenity charges for allegedly sending a photo of his private parts to several female classmates. Another boy was recently charged with child pornography in a similar case.
In some cases, the photos are sent to harass other teens or to get attention. Other times, they're viewed as a high-tech way to flirt. Either way, law enforcement officials want it to stop, even if it means threatening to add "sex offender" to a juvenile's confidential record.
"We don't want to throw these kids in jail," McAlexander says. "But we want them to think."
This month in Greensburg, Pa., three high school girls who sent seminude photos and four male students who received them were all hit with child pornography charges. And in Newark, Ohio, a 15-year-old high school girl faced similar charges for sending her own racy cell phone photos to classmates. She eventually agreed to a curfew, no cell phone and no unsupervised Internet usage over the next few months. If she complies, the charges will be dropped.
In Pennsylvania, all but one of the students accepted a lesser misdemeanor charge, partly to avoid a trial and further embarrassment, a public defender in the case said. The mother of one boy is considering fighting all charges.
Whatever the outcome, the mere fact that child pornography charges were filed at all is stirring debate among students and adults.
At Greensburg-Salem High School in Pennsylvania, junior Jamie Bennish says she's not sure the boys in her school's case should've been charged.
"They did not necessarily choose to receive the pictures, although I find it questionable that they did not delete the photos from their cell phones after some period of time," she says. "As for the girls, there is no excuse for exposing yourself in that way, and any charges they receive they have brought upon themselves."
Dante Bertani, chief public defender in Westmoreland County, Pa., where the students went to court, called the felony charges "horrendous." He says such treatment should be reserved for sex offenders, not teenagers who might've used poor judgment, but meant nothing malicious.
"It should be an issue between the school, the parents and the kids - and primarily the parents and the kids," Bertani says. "It's not something that should be going through the criminal system."
These cases do pose a dilemma, concedes Wes Weaver, the principal at Licking Valley High School, where the Ohio girl attends school.
He agrees that pornography charges or other felonies are not appropriate, noting that "the laws have not caught up to technology."
But he says there has to be some way to educate students and their parents about the harm these photos can do - and the fact that, once they're out there, they often get widely circulated. Days before his staff discovered the girl's nude photos, the county prosecutor had been at the school to warn students against sexting.
"I don't think we're anywhere near having a handle on this," Weaver says. "It's beyond our scope as a school."
Parents are also often at a loss.
Some companies, such as WebSafety Inc., have developed software that parents can use to monitor certain activity on cell phones and computers. They can, for instance, block X-rated texting terms or be alerted when their child is using them, says Mike Adler, the company's CEO.
Photos are trickier, though, and often require a parent to manually check a child's phone.
And that's OK to do, says Dr. Terri Randall, an adolescent psychiatrist in Philadelphia.
"It could be part of the contract of having a cell phone, that you really don't get 100 percent privacy. It's just one more way of keeping track, like knowing what your kid is doing and where they are," says Randall, who's also an instructor at Jefferson Medical College.
Randall says she's seeing more issues related to sexting, especially as cell phones with cameras have become standard. One mother brought her daughter in to be psychologically evaluated after finding provocative cell phone photos of the girl.
Other patients tell Randall how sexting and texting explicit messages has caused relationship problems, especially after a breakup, when photos might be distributed out of spite, for instance.
So she reminds her young patients: "Even though it seems like fun and so exciting right now, that person may not always feel the same way about you. And you may not feel the same way about that person either."
But is it porn? That's questionable, she and others say.
Certainly, technology makes it easier to do and say things we might not do in person, says Amanda Lenhart, a senior researcher with the Pew Internet & American Life Project.
"But ultimately," she says, "I think this is merely another case of technology extending an activity or action that young people have engaged in for years, if not beyond that."
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: mugs
16 years old is not junior high.
I hope.
The reason for the 'wiretapping' charge is obvious if she really didn't know she was being taped.
What punishment do you think would be appropriate for a junior high (middle school) student charged with "wiretapping"?
I guess that depends on whether she is your daughter or my daughter.
Are you assuming the girl wasnt a willing participant? How about your daughter, and she was? Whats the difference?
I'm assuming that even if the girl (who ever's girl it was) knew it was being recorded (which I doubt) she did not want/intend for it to be distributed around her high school, possibly even ending up on the interent??
If I was the father of this girl those punks would have more to worry about then the cops!!!
Assuming she was a willing participant, why would you go after the guys? Shit, its not their fault. It would be hers. *IF* she was a willing participant Its like people who say if their spouse had an affair they would go after the other person. Fuck that...I would go after my spouse!
1.) I haven't seen any evidence that shows she knew she was being recorded.
2.) If she did know I haven't seen anything to indicate she was OK with showing the tape to other people. Indeed the whole story is about her not being happy about that.
3.) For all we know she was drugged and possibly incapable of giving any type of consent.
You boys need to learn how to think with something besides your dicks/balls.
Edit: I would do exactly what this father is doing and if I didn't get some type of satisfaction from the law then I would take the matter
into my own hands. These two punk ass little bitches would never pull this stunt on another girl after I was done with them.
"The video depicts two minors engaging in sexual intercourse," Holbrook police officer Keysha Mitchell said. She said the person recording the scene was also a minor.
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: LumbergTech
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
Why are we charging these kids at all, though? Honestly, how does prosecuting these kids help protect society? Or is that no longer the purpose of law and punishment...??
Because the sweet innocent girl was harmed and she is upset. How was she to know having sex while a 3rd person was holding a camera was being taped. And then when her parents found out and/or the guy broke up with her she had her parents contact the police.
I am betting there is more to the story. This dumb slut is just using the police and it will get out I bet.
Take out your rage on someone your own age, freak.
Why call her a slut?
Are both the boys sluts?
you fucking disgust me with your bullshit
how about relying on facts and not your paranoid sexist assumptions?
Grow the fuck up.
Yea lets not let the facts get in the way. A girl under 16 has sex while another watchs and holds a camera. Then says she did nto know it was being recorded. Then plays the I am a sweet little girl please help me police. And I am sure she has never done anything like this before, i bet it was even her first time.
Yea she is a perfect little sweet angel and these guys really took advantage of her. :laugh: