3 Whey Protein deals

[TheBigDogz]

Originally posted by: Anami
I'll go for the 100% Natural Whey Protein. I always eat what is best for me, not what tastes best. I like the low fat, low sugar, low calorie, good protein stats. Thanks for the tips, you guys.

actually, that's not the best out there. The sugar content is high compare to this

100% Whey Protein 5lbs from Optimum Nutrition.

Pay CLOSE attention to the nutritional facts.

 

[anton73]

Personaly I like Zero Carb ISOPURE. It has more than twice the protein per serving then most protein drinks (50 grams per serving) and when bought in quantity it's not too expensive.

Right now you can get a 7.5 lb bucket for $61.99. Link

I recommend the chocolate flavor, it's actually very tasty.

 

[odoe]

Whoever said that Whey Isolate taste like dirt....I agree with you 100%. I made the mistake early on of ordering just Whey Isolate, mixing it with some water and chugging it down. Stuff tasted awful. I thought maybe it was bad, but after looking around i realized that it was fine, but my knowledge of mixing it was lacking at the time. I had to mix it with some splenda and fruit to make it palatable.

And yesy their is a difference in proteins, but it really only matters if your into lifting seriously. There are essentially 2 types of proteins you would be concerned about. 1 type absorbs into your body rather qucikly, which is good to mix with carbs right after a work out. The other does not absorb so well, and takes a few hours, usually good in the mornings. I don't worry too much about that anymore. I usually just keep some protein powder around for the 2 days i work out, but the rest of the week I eat normally.

 

[mamisano]

Originally posted by: anton73
Personaly I like Zero Carb ISOPURE. It has more than twice the protein per serving then most protein drinks (50 grams per serving) and when bought in quantity it's not too expensive.

Right now you can get a 7.5 lb bucket for $61.99. Link

I recommend the chocolate flavor, it's actually very tasty.

You REALLY need to do some research.

IsoPure:
Serving Size - 62g (2 scoops)
Calories - 200
Fat - 0
Cholesterol - 5mg
Sodium - 320mg
Potassium - 750mg
Carbs - 0
Protien - 50g

Optimum Nutrition
Serving Size - 28.4g (1 scoop)
Calories - 110
Fat - 2
Cholesterol - 25mg
Sodium - 55mg
Potassium - 105mg
Carbs - 2
Protein - 22g

It is ALL about the serving size. Isopure has more than TWICE the serving size! I get 80 servings from a 5lb container of Optimum where a 7.5lb bucket of Isopure at MORE THAN 2x the price gets you 52 servings.

 

[KokomoGST]

Back on the original topic, I've tried both EAS Simply Protein (Whey) and Designer from GNC.
I liked the EAS chocolate better than the Designer. I've been trying out EAS Precision Protein lately also in chocolate (hey, tastes like Ovaltine *shrug*) which is also on sale at Vitaglo iirc. It's serving size is much smaller than Simply. All of them clump a little bit but I don't use a blender... I just stir vigorously for a few minutes.

While EAS might not be that much protein for you mass bulkers but it works great for people like me working more on definition and strength without bulk. I don't think I need 50g of protein in one shot... 20-30 should do if taken 3 times a day.

 

[anton73]

Since Optimum less than half the protein you have to drink more to get your daily intake of protein. With Isopure there are less serving in a tub, but you don't need as many.

For me, I've been trying to add 100 grams of protein to my diet a day (2 isopures) so 1 container will give me 26 days of protein. If I was to take Optimum, I would need 5 shakes a day so 80 servings would only last me 16 days.

Now go research that.

 

[mamisano]

Originally posted by: anton73
Since Optimum less than half the protein you have to drink more to get your daily intake of protein. With Isopure there are less serving in a tub, but you don't need as many.

For me, I've been trying to add 100 grams of protein to my diet a day (2 isopures) so 1 container will give me 26 days of protein. If I was to take Optimum, I would need 5 shakes a day so 80 servings would only last me 16 days.

Now go research that.

Hmmm...MuscleSurf has a 10lb container of Optimum, 160 servings for $59 which will last you 32 days compared to your $61 isopure that will last 26 days.

All I was trying to convey is that you need to look at the SERVING SIZE as well as the amount of protein.

 

[anton73]

I agree with you there, both serving size AND protein grams are definitely a factor.

Since I'm away from home for most of the day, I prefer to just have one in the morning and another when I get home at night.

And on a side note you can actually get the 10lb of Optimum for $49 at 1Fast400.COM

Happy mixing

 

[Anami]

Originally posted by: mamisano

Originally posted by: anton73
Personaly I like Zero Carb ISOPURE. It has more than twice the protein per serving then most protein drinks (50 grams per serving) and when bought in quantity it's not too expensive. Right now you can get a 7.5 lb bucket for $61.99.

You REALLY need to do some research. It is ALL about the serving size. Isopure has more than TWICE the serving size! I get 80 servings from a 5lb container of Optimum where a 7.5lb bucket of Isopure at MORE THAN 2x the price gets you 52 servings.

Okay, let's just boil it down to the math, guys.
* Optimum Nutrition 100% Natural Whey {10 lbs for $51.88, 75 servings in each can}
** (75 servings x 2 cans x 22g protein) / 51.88 = 63.6g per dollar
* Isopure Zero Carb {7.5 lbs for $61.99, 52 servings, plus $5.95 shipping equals $67.94, shipped}
** (52 servings x 50g) / 67.94 = 38.3g per dollar

The Isopure Zero Carb is 66% more expensive for the same weight of protein as the 100% Natural Whey.

 

[TheBigDogz]

Originally posted by: Anami

Originally posted by: mamisano

Originally posted by: anton73
Personaly I like Zero Carb ISOPURE. It has more than twice the protein per serving then most protein drinks (50 grams per serving) and when bought in quantity it's not too expensive. Right now you can get a 7.5 lb bucket for $61.99.

You REALLY need to do some research. It is ALL about the serving size. Isopure has more than TWICE the serving size! I get 80 servings from a 5lb container of Optimum where a 7.5lb bucket of Isopure at MORE THAN 2x the price gets you 52 servings.

Okay, let's just boil it down to the math, guys.
* Optimum Nutrition 100% Natural Whey {10 lbs for $51.88, 75 servings in each can}
** (75 servings x 2 cans x 22g protein) / 51.88 = 63.6g per dollar
* Isopure Zero Carb {7.5 lbs for $61.99, 52 servings, plus $5.95 shipping equals $67.94, shipped}
** (52 servings x 50g) / 67.94 = 38.3g per dollar

The Isopure Zero Carb is 66% more expensive for the same weight of protein as the 100% Natural Whey.

I think your calculation is a bit off. Where do you see TWO cans of 10lbs of Optimum Whey for 51.88 SHIPPED??? That's a ONE can price and if you do the right math, 75 serving X 1 can X 22g / $51.88 = 31.8g per dollar

 

[TheNinja]

Originally posted by: Staley8
Hi I'm new here. I have been reading here for the past month but have finally decided to join.

I want to try this Optimum Nutrition protein b/c it looks like it is low in fat, calories, sodium, and cholesterol. Now to my question, what is the difference between:

1. http://www.musclesurf.com/100wheyprot2.html

and 2. http://musclesurf.com/10natwheypro.html ??

The SECOND one seems to have less of the bad stuff (fat, cholesterol) and is cheaper, what's up with that?. I could get one of those 5 pounders and the shaker for under $31 shipped. TIA

Sorry to repost but I want to get my order in before the free shipping is up. Can anyone recommend one over the other?

 

[TheBigDogz]

Originally posted by: Staley8

Originally posted by: Staley8
Hi I'm new here. I have been reading here for the past month but have finally decided to join.

I want to try this Optimum Nutrition protein b/c it looks like it is low in fat, calories, sodium, and cholesterol. Now to my question, what is the difference between:

1. http://www.musclesurf.com/100wheyprot2.html

and 2. http://musclesurf.com/10natwheypro.html ??

The SECOND one seems to have less of the bad stuff (fat, cholesterol) and is cheaper, what's up with that?. I could get one of those 5 pounders and the shaker for under $31 shipped. TIA

Sorry to repost but I want to get my order in before the free shipping is up. Can anyone recommend one over the other?

I remmended the FIRST one cuz' it has lower sugar level.

 

[WillieEvercome]

i plan on starting to work out tomorrow so that i will be sore during the weekend instead of the school week. i weigh 220 right now and am 6' 5" and was wondering how many grams of the eas would i have to take daily to gain muscle. anybody know?

If you want to get big, you should do upper body one day and lower the next, with one break day a week. Supplement with creatine (no loading needed). You're going to want to eat about a gram and half of protein a day for each lb you weigh. No more than about 40-55 grams a meal, your liver can only assimilate that much every 4 hrs. Best upper work out for size consists of bench, barbell curl (not dumbell), lat pulls, and shoulder press. For lower do squats, calf raises, ham curls and anything for your abs. Do the most weight you can do and control, for three reps, and about 9 sets. This will work your fast twitch muscles which will make you move up in weights faster. Take creatine about an hour before your workout, not after, trust me on this. If you do this work out and eat a shiteload of protein a day, I guarantee you will gain at least 3-4lbs a week in muscle (if your 6'5) about two lbs a week if your about my height (5'11). On this workout my squat went from 335 to 400 + in 2 weeks, and my arms gained two inches two in weeks.

 

[anton73]

Okay, let's just boil it down to the math, guys.
* Optimum Nutrition 100% Natural Whey {10 lbs for $51.88, 75 servings in each can}
** (75 servings x 2 cans x 22g protein) / 51.88 = 63.6g per dollar
* Isopure Zero Carb {7.5 lbs for $61.99, 52 servings, plus $5.95 shipping equals $67.94, shipped}
** (52 servings x 50g) / 67.94 = 38.3g per dollar

The Isopure Zero Carb is 66% more expensive for the same weight of protein as the 100% Natural Whey.[/quote]


Yes, please explain where you're getting 2 cans of Optimum for $51.88.

If it was a mistake and it should only be one can, you're looking at 31.8 g per dollar, which means Isopure gives you almost 7 grams more per dollar.

 

[anton73]

Originally posted by: WillieEvercome

i plan on starting to work out tomorrow so that i will be sore during the weekend instead of the school week. i weigh 220 right now and am 6' 5" and was wondering how many grams of the eas would i have to take daily to gain muscle. anybody know?

If you want to get big, you should do upper body one day and lower the next, with one break day a week. Supplement with creatine (no loading needed). You're going to want to eat about a gram and half of protein a day for each lb you weigh. No more than about 40-55 grams a meal, your liver can only assimilate that much every 4 hrs. Best upper work out for size consists of bench, barbell curl (not dumbell), lat pulls, and shoulder press. For lower do squats, calf raises, ham curls and anything for your abs. Do the most weight you can do and control, for three reps, and about 9 sets. This will work your fast twitch muscles which will make you move up in weights faster. Take creatine about an hour before your workout, not after, trust me on this. If you do this work out and eat a shiteload of protein a day, I guarantee you will gain at least 3-4lbs a week in muscle (if your 6'5) about two lbs a week if your about my height (5'11). On this workout my squat went from 335 to 400 + in 2 weeks, and my arms gained two inches two in weeks.

It's also good to take the protein about 45 minutes to an hour after your workout. Your body is still charged up from the workout and will assimilate it immediately.

 

[anton73]

Originally posted by: TheBigDogz

Originally posted by: Staley8

Originally posted by: Staley8
Hi I'm new here. I have been reading here for the past month but have finally decided to join.

I want to try this Optimum Nutrition protein b/c it looks like it is low in fat, calories, sodium, and cholesterol. Now to my question, what is the difference between:

1. http://www.musclesurf.com/100wheyprot2.html

and 2. http://musclesurf.com/10natwheypro.html ??

The SECOND one seems to have less of the bad stuff (fat, cholesterol) and is cheaper, what's up with that?. I could get one of those 5 pounders and the shaker for under $31 shipped. TIA

Sorry to repost but I want to get my order in before the free shipping is up. Can anyone recommend one over the other?

I remmended the FIRST one cuz' it has lower sugar level.

I agree, plus the second one is made from real milk which can give you troubles if you're lactose sensitive.

 

[MMarks2]

Any opinions on calcium caseinate vs. Whey protein?

I have heard that you should have a mix of both. Whey is for short term digestion and burnoff, and calcuim Caseinate is for long term.

Comments? And any suggestions on brands, sites.

 

[mamisano]

Originally posted by: anton73
Okay, let's just boil it down to the math, guys.
* Optimum Nutrition 100% Natural Whey {10 lbs for $51.88, 75 servings in each can}
** (75 servings x 2 cans x 22g protein) / 51.88 = 63.6g per dollar
* Isopure Zero Carb {7.5 lbs for $61.99, 52 servings, plus $5.95 shipping equals $67.94, shipped}
** (52 servings x 50g) / 67.94 = 38.3g per dollar

The Isopure Zero Carb is 66% more expensive for the same weight of protein as the 100% Natural Whey.

Yes, please explain where you're getting 2 cans of Optimum for $51.88.

If it was a mistake and it should only be one can, you're looking at 31.8 g per dollar, which means Isopure gives you almost 7 grams more per dollar.[/quote]

2x 5lb cans of Optimum is $62 ($30.99 each). That equates to 160 (80 each x 2) servings x 22g protein / $62 = 56.7g/$

 

[TheBigDogz]

ISOPure is usually expensive anyway. go w/ EAS / Optimum

 

[StumbleBum1]

Buy 2 5lb Optimal Nutrition 100% Natural Whey Protein for $51.88 shipped
Nice deal!!just ordered 2

 

[JOSEPHLB]

MMarks2

"Any opinions on calcium caseinate vs. Whey protein?

I have heard that you should have a mix of both. Whey is for short term digestion and burnoff, and calcuim Caseinate is for long term.

Comments? And any suggestions on brands, sites."



Caseinate based proteins are better taken as your late night protein supplement. Supposedly they digest a little slower than whey based.. Caseinate protein is recommended to be taken at bedtime.... slow digesting enables the protein to act sort of like a "time released" system, and feeds your body the protein it needs during the first 2-3 hours of sleep

 

[MMarks2]

Yes, that is what i read, BUT should i buy a 100% whey based protein? Or mix the whey and calcium?

Any suggestions.

 

[Chunkee]

This place is good also.

I have been a personal trainer for over 15 years. Designer is good as well. They do help some, however, you can easily over do it and strain your kidneys with excessive protein. Eat well, and have one protein shake before going to bed...that is if you are hitting it hard. Dont forget to get plenty of rest. Your growth hormones are at their highest when sleeping. And be safe, if you get hurt, you cannot work out! Take your time and know your limitations, there is always someone that is stronger and bigger.

Mix up your routine, shock the muscles, NEVER! and I MEAN NEVER, NEGLECT YOUR FLEXIBILITY! Yoga will save your life. Make sure you beef up your cardio respiratory system as well. The more efficient this is, the better supply of nutrients and gases needed for muscle growth.

Have fun...and dont make it you life.

Large muscle groups first, compound movements followed by isolating ones. DONT OVER DO IT...sure way to F*(# things up.

Watch your form and accentuate the negative....eccentric contractions, especially on your back....the cobra look will come much quicker.

Take care of your joints.

Focus...the worst thing you can do it yip yap and distract yourself. Make sure you state of mind is right. If you sense you are tired, or just not into it, THAT IS OKAY..it happens and will happen again.....back off a little, dont push so hard and cut back on the work out and then leave without feeling guilty.

Watch the booze and dope, just "undoes" what you are intending to do if not moderated.

and last but not least.....allow the grace of being humble come through...DO NOT MAKE FUN OF OR INTIMIDATE OTHERS LESSER THAN YOU OR ENVY THOSE GREATER....just being in the gym is a great thing and all should count their blesssings, for there are many who wish they could. HELP EACH OTHER OUT...EVERYONE SPOTS EVERYONE! and ENCOURAGE! We are all human and try hard.

I guess that is enough of this diatribe.

Enjoy good health everyone.

JC

 

[odoe]

Chunkee, many of the reasons you give are why I try to avoid the gyms as much as possible. A lot of my workouts can be done at home. I only go to the gym to squat and deadlift. Benches are done at home as well as chins and dips and some other major lifts. I got a huge truck tire at my in-laws down the street that I tumble every other week and some homemade thick handles. Gyms can be too distracting, especially the fitness gyms. Smaller gyms are what I prefer.

 

[kimchee411]

Originally posted by: Anami
Well, it is, isn't it? Have you ever had a bitter home-grown carrot? Wrong mix of soil, man. So, if you apply that to protein, is it all the same to you if I serve you chicken, king salmon, salamander, or prime rib protein? Tastes diff, don't it? It's in the details. I think so. Maybe we can agree that, of the twelve-odd amino acids present in "protein", that the mix makes a difference. I like to find what the best stuff is, then find out where to get it at the best price. I found out that most people hate champagne because all they'd ever had was cheap Cook's at the cheapo wedding. If I gave them a chilled glass of $100 Dom Perignon, they'd damn well better agree that not all "champagne is champagne".

I believe BigJimbo was saying that whey protein is whey protein, which of course can't be entirely true, but in a broader sense I would agree. You can't get too nit-picky about these things. As with the carrot analogy, do you know really know each manufacturer's whey protein making process? Where it's manufactured? The machinery used and the condition? What the cows that produced the milk that made the whey were fed? What kind of environment they were raised in? There can be a myriad of factors. There are fundamental differences in the make up of different proteins so whey vs. soy protein, for example, should be considered, but as long as it's whey protein I seriously doubt that there would be any noticeable gains using one brand over another with the exact same workout regiment and diet. Some people might contradict me with their subjective experiences, but I bet an objective clinical study (not one sponsored by EAS or something) would concur. It's like saying crucial PC2100 CL2.5 kicks ass over PNY PC2100 CL 2.5 when they're both functioning properly. If anyone would be able to point out which one is which while using two identical systems I would soooo bow down to you. Anyways, where's the meat in your diet, Anami? If you want to bulk up you're going to need meat! And to those who would rather eat a carton of eggs and drink a gallon of milk a day, you're going to die of a heart attack: soon.

If you're having trouble mixing your protein using a sealed container and shaking like a bastard works well without the pain in the ass of busting out the blender and having to clean it multiple times a day. I also noticed if you use milk, the more fat, the better it dissolves. Wow, I never would've thought that there's so many meathead/computer geeks.