3 year sentence for porn cartoon

[Raizinman]

Missouri man sentenced to 3 years for porn cartoons
Posted by Chris Oberholtz, Multimedia Producer
SPRINGFIELD, Mo. (AP) -
A southwest Missouri man will spend three years in prison for possessing cartoons showing child pornography.
A federal judge sentenced 36-year-old Christjan Bee of Monett on Monday to three years without parole, followed by five years of supervised probation.
Bee pleaded guilty last October to possession of an obscene image of the sexual abuse of children.
The Joplin Globe reports Bee's wife called police in August 2011 after finding what she believed to be child pornography on her husband's computer.
The U.S. attorney's office says in a news release that comics found on the computer found several images of minors engaged in sexual activity.
Copyright 2013 The Associated Press.

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Let’s see. If you make a picture of an obscene image showing the sexual abuse of children, you can go to jail for 3 years. Hmmm….. I wonder if stick figures would count? I wonder if I need to start checking my kids art work to make sure none of them could be interpreted at sexual abuse pictures. I remember one of my kids crayon pictures had a bunch of kids sitting on a picket fence. Could that be sexual abuse?

Even the wife believed it to be child pornography and not sexual abuse of children. Should the charge be sexual abuse of a child or sexual abuse of a cartoon comic book character? Anyone want to move to Missouri?

 

[PokerGuy]

To me there's a clear distinction between actual images of children vs cartoons (ie drawings). One is real, and is the product of abuse. The other is a drawing.

As much as I think anyone who abuses kids or consumes child pron is scum and should be taken out back and shot, sending someone to jail for drawings makes no sense. It's a dangerous precedent, it equates someone drawing a possibly illegal act with actually committing the illegal act.

 

[Juddog]

/ deletes that pr0n image of Bart from the Simpsons having sex with Marge

 

[Juddog]

You know the country is going to hell when you get arrested for a possessing a pic of a drawing that someone else made. I understand possession of actual pictures being illegal, and am all for going after people with said imagery, but I find it utterly ridiculous that someone can get arrested for possessing a drawing.

 

[Kadarin]

Who is the victim in this "crime"?

 

[baydude]

How do they prove the cartoon characters are underage? What if someone argues that they were created to be 18 yrs old and the arguement was they look 16?

 

[edro]

The TSA should be arrested for seeing Xray images of children.

 

[ImpulsE69]

The real issue here is the outright copyright infringement right here in the OP. Roar.

 

[Gunbuster]

What kind of wife does that? No doubt she is now filing for divorce and cleaning him out while he's locked up in jail and cant properly defend himself...

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

The laws on this, at least federally, started to develop after it became possible to create highly realistic virtual child porn by Photoshopping children's faces on the bodies of barely-legal women. As I recall, the Supreme Court has ratified the Constitutionality of these laws, and they apply all over the country, not just in Missouri.

EDIT: The Supreme Court opinion is at http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/06-694.pdf

The application of these laws to cartoons may be a little goofy, but they in general criminalize possession of any image that depicts children in a way intended to sexually stimulate. I have no idea what these cartoons looked like, but they may have been something that any normal person would find highly disturbing.

 

[ThePresence]

The application of these laws to cartoons may be a little goofy, but they in general criminalize possession of any image that depicts children in a way intended to sexually stimulate.

That is ridiculous. These pictures are not of real people. There are no victims here. Essentially, the verdict is saying that it's illegal be sexually stimulated by pictures that look underage. We are now legislating people's feelings. Ridiculous.

 

[SaDiZTiKStyLeZ]

wait... wut?

 

[edro]

to create highly realistic virtual child porn by Photoshopping children's faces on the bodies of barely-legal women.

Creepy... but I don't think that should be illegal, especially a felony.

 

[Drako]

I wish I could actually find a decent article on this case. :hmm:

 

[SphinxnihpS]

No one here has ever heard of Mike Diana? This was HUGE in the art world, yet no one did much to speak out. Sad...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Diana

http://www.mikedianacomix.com/mikediana/mikediana.html

Many of the Southern states are still just about as backasswards as they were before the Civil War. Missouri, Kansas, Texas, Florida, Alabama, Arkansas, and Mississippi are the worst offenders.

 

[runzwithsizorz]

How old was Betty Boop, cuz well, ummm just asking.

 

[Jodell88]

Now all the Lolicons of the world know to stay away from the U.S.A.

 

[ichy]

I have no idea what these cartoons looked like, but they may have been something that any normal person would find highly disturbing.

Should've just drawn cartoons of a bunch of kids getting shot or stabbed. That's not illegal

Just to be clear I'm not trying to defend child pr0n but cartoons, no matter how offensive they are, are different. There was no victim here.

 

[ThePresence]

I have no idea what these cartoons looked like, but they may have been something that any normal person would find highly disturbing.

Something should not be illegal just because it's highly disturbing

 

[ThePresence]

Should've just drawn cartoons of a bunch of kids getting shot or stabbed. That's not illegal

No, but it will get you suspended from school and a psych exam!

 

[Red Squirrel]

Wow that's ridiculous. Isin't child porn considered child porn when the child is under a certain specific age? (16 I think?) How would one dictate the age of a fictional cartoon character that was made up on the spot? Or did he use known characters like Bart Simpson? You can go by looks, but if it's like a stick figure it's kinda hard to tell. Maybe it's an adult midget? lol

 

[manimal]

so basically anyone that ever watched cowboy bepob or the legend of the overfiend urusukodoji or whatever its spelled is a criminal?

 

[Childs]

WOW, she must have really wanted out of that marriage.

 

[sixone]

That is ridiculous. These pictures are not of real people. There are no victims here. Essentially, the verdict is saying that it's illegal be sexually stimulated by pictures that look underage. We are now legislating people's feelings. Ridiculous.

From the OP:

Bee pleaded guilty last October to possession of an obscene image of the sexual abuse of children.

Big difference between images that are "sexually stimulating" and images that show "sexual abuse".

I'm not comfortable with the sentence, but I'm not comfortable with ignoring this, either.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

I can hear everyone's hard drive grinding as they delete all their cartoon porn.