3000+ / Neo2 Platty 311x9 = 2800mhz!!

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: bjc112

Anyone stll think power COULD be an issue?

Antec 430..

Had a Sparkle 350 running 1 more optical drive / 1 HDD + 3 more case fans with no problems..

I don't see how power could be an issue.

It is possible, I would definately want a bigger PS for overclocking. But it's starting to sound like your chip is just not a good clocker. As was previously stated, drop your CPU multi and memory divider to 133 or even 100 and see how high you can take HTT.

If your HTT is limited even with this method, then it may be a power problem. But if you can get a high HTT with CPU and RAM out of the picture, then its most likely your CPU that stoping you.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy

Originally posted by: bjc112

Anyone stll think power COULD be an issue?

Antec 430..

Had a Sparkle 350 running 1 more optical drive / 1 HDD + 3 more case fans with no problems..

I don't see how power could be an issue.

It is possible, I would definately want a bigger PS for overclocking. But it's starting to sound like your chip is just not a good clocker

But it runs just fine, all day long @ 241 - There is NO way 30 Mhz causes it to INSTANTLY hit a wall.

Granted CBBID might not be the best, I'm pretty sure this CPU has 2.3 if not 2.4ghz in it..

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: bjc112

But it runs just fine, all day long @ 241 - There is NO way 30 Mhz causes it to INSTANTLY hit a wall.

Granted CBBID might not be the best, I'm pretty sure this CPU has 2.3 if not 2.4ghz in it..

Yeah from my experience there is usually a wider stability range than 30mhz from prime stable to won't post. In my case absolutely prime stable is somewhere around 2588 but it will post up to 2650 (once it posted at 2700), and will boot to windows up to 2635 or so.

Test your max HTT, if you hit the wall on HTT with CPU and RAM eliminated, then I would suspect the power supply or the mobo.

 

[bjc112]

Yeah from my experience there is usually a wider stability range than 30mhz from prime stable to won't post. In my case absolutely prime stable is somewhere around 2588 but it will post up to 2650 (once it posted at 2700), and will boot to windows up to 2635 or so.

GOing to go with what Duvie said an see how 8x245 works.. If it post's it's CPU ( I don't think it is )

If it doesn't it's the board..

Can't wait to find out now.

 

[bjc112]

CPU is not the issue, at least not at these speeds.

Dropped it to 8x250 and was NOT able to post, had to clear the CMOS.

Should I try a different BIOS?

Is this an RMA'able problem ( should the board be able to handle 250 ? )

What's next!

Thanks for the help.

 

[Duvie]

Go ahead and try from 1.36mod up.....

"Is this an RMA'able problem ( should the board be able to handle 250 ? "

I think so. More so then any group of ppl when I pay a "premium" for a "enthusiast board" I expect it to work.....They for pete sakes support up to 450HTT on the board it would be nice to get some of it..regardless if you are ocing the cpu or not..heck you could run 6x300 and still be stock and use a 133 divider and be stock and run a 3x HTT and be under stock....

The only thing I would like to check is ofcourse the other bioses, and possibly try a different PSU....That way you would really be covered....

I have used that ram in this board...compliments of MarkFW900 while I rma'd my gskill sticks ( one bad had to send them as a set). So I know they work and I knwo they work with 1.37mod, 1.41mod.....

 

[bjc112]

Well, I am going to call newegg and then MSI, see waht the deal is.

I would prefer to hold on to this until I get another board from Newegg, then RMA it.

Can't really be without a computer.


Tried Bios 1.37, 1.52mod , 1.41 mod.

All no luck.

Not really concerned with the PSU, Only have 1HDD, 1 Optical, CPU / 6800GT running.

Sparkle 350 handled MUCH more than that.

 

[Duvie]

Just trying to help you cover the bases...You speak to tech guys and they may ask these questions...they did with my ram and I was able to say I tried everything.....

 

[thanatos355]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
No... it's just the CBBID processor. I can't get mine past 245 HTT either without using a 2:1 divider and keeping core speed well below 2 GHz. It doesn't respond to voltage, different BIOS doesn't help. They're good lower power CPU's, that's about it. Don't seem to get much more than 10% overclock out of them. I've given up on trying to get it higher. I'm at 2475 right now with my 3500+ so that'll do until I can find a Venice for a reasonable price.

you are mistaken. in my rig, see specs in sig, i am running my cbbid 0502 at 2400mhz. i havent had a chance to play with it any more though. still runnin in the 40's under full load with p95 running over 12hrs.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: Duvie
Just trying to help you cover the bases...You speak to tech guys and they may ask these questions...they did with my ram and I was able to say I tried everything.....

ANd as always, greatly appreciate it.

I think we covered damn near everything we could.

All that's left is an RMA -> Even though the board works to an extent/

 

[GuitarDaddy]

I would definately try another PS is you can, overclocking takes considerablely more juice. And especially where the chipset is concerned, any slight fluctuations in the power rails is magnified as you increase the HTT.

I would hate to see you RMA the board only to find the same limitation with the next one.
I too beleive that an enthusiast board should live up to the features that are offered. But if you board performs properly at stock speeds I'm not sure how successful you will be RMA'ing it. I don't think anything over stock is guarnteed.

Most all boards offer settings that can't be acheived. For example my board has HTT settings up to 400mhz but the best I can get with ram/cpu <= stock is 326mhz, could I RMA? Granted my limit is much more workable for O/C than 250mhz but still less than the options presented in the bios. My point is where do you draw the line? I'm guessing most manufactures draw the line at stock 200mhz.

 

[bjc112]

I too beleive that an enthusiast board should live up to the features that are offered. But if you board performs properly at stock speeds I'm not sure how successful you will be RMA'ing it. I don't think anything over stock is guarnteed.

I'm not sure if anything overstock is guaranteed either, but when I lower the multiplier enough, and raise the HTT around 250 it locks.(Even if clock speed is stock or near stock. It's definitely a board issue.

I'll fully come out and tell MSI, I think they will be willing to give me one.

 

[Duvie]

Dont tell them the truth...F them...Again if they sell it with those features and the board can live up to the features what the helluva it did we waste our money on.....It actually wouldn't be considered ocing if you set it to 6x300 with a 3t and 133 divder and leave all volatges stock...cant do it then send it back...tell them the board has posting issues...they stay at stock speeds...you say YEP!!!!

Anybody has a problem with that, tell me about it. their official bios has ocing options and they sell this board for a premium over many other boards. what is the diff>>> ocing options plain and simple...IN this case they failed so they can have it back....

 

[bjc112]

It actually wouldn't be considered ocing if you set it to 6x300 with a 3t and 133 divder and leave all volatges stock

Exactly.

Just ran 6x250 (133) 1.5v ( BIOS ) THAT"s 1500MHZ!!!!

Would not post!! That's bullsh!t.



I still think I'll just straight up tell them, its not living up to its features, and 6x250 is less of a clockspeed than 9x240.

My board has an issue above 245..

And I really think this chip has 2.4ghz in it as well.

 

[bjc112]

Just ran PRIME 95 for 13 hours @ 2160 ( 240x9 )

There is definitely an issue with 245 and above..

Talked to MSI and the guy tried to argue with me, but eventually broke down and said they will replace it. With a refurb.

Even though I don't care, I told him that was unaccpetable and he told me too bad.

He said go through your reseller, I then tell the Rep. Newegg does NOT warrant the MOBO at all.

He said, give them the case number and they should!?!? Does anyone know if that's true?

Will call Newegg on monday I guess, I would hate to get a refurb considering it was $150 board that's two days old.

 

[Avalon]

This is why DFI needs a s939 AGP based board.
I'm sure Newegg will help you out, bjc. Even though they say motherboards cannot be returned, they always shoot for customer satisfaction, so I believe they will pull through for you. Good luck with that overclock once you get things squared away!

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: Avalon
This is why DFI needs a s939 AGP based board.
I'm sure Newegg will help you out, bjc. Even though they say motherboards cannot be returned, they always shoot for customer satisfaction, so I believe they will pull through for you. Good luck with that overclock once you get things squared away!

Thanks..

I really do believe this CPU has at least 2.4ghz in it Even if it doesn't, I still want this baord to be able to run 250FSB

Can you get in touch with a HUMAN on the weekends with Newegg? Or just on the weekdays?

EDIT-> Going to have to wait until Monday. Will the Cross-ship?!?! I might just buy another one, and return the other one.. ( They should strike the restock fee )

Thanks for all the help everyone!

Bryan!

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Newegg will usually RMA even working parts if your willing to pay a restock fee. But I'm not sure about the items they mark "warrantied only through manufacturer"

 

[bjc112]

wOOt!

Newegg will replace the board..

(RMA refund )

Just going to buy another one, then ship it bak when I get my new one!



Fvck MSI and their refurb BS!

 

[Duvie]

Cool!!! And it starts again!!!

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: Duvie
Cool!!! And it starts again!!!

Yep.

newegg shipped the order already!



Should be here Thurs.

Can't wait. If it boots 9x250 right off the bat I'll be thrilled.

 

[bjc112]

Got the board just now!



Very fast shipping!

Will start the swap out immediately.

I'm going straight to 9x250,

Take a second and say a prayer for me!

 

[GuitarDaddy]

:thumbsup:

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
:thumbsup:

:thumbsdown:


Have not updated the BIOS yet, but still running into the same thing you feared would happen!!!

Rebooting for BIOS flash.

 

[bjc112]

Went to 1.52B


SAME exact thing, reguardless of voltage!

It is NOT the CPU, and it can''t be power considering I only have my 6800 in there with 1 HDD now.

!!!!!