Goosemaster

Lifer
Apr 10, 2001
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So much of the past has been focused on the prerogative of others but not my own.
I was so engrossed in the test that I saw no one cheat. I only heard. I repeated. I digested. I sulked in the putrid reality that are the lives of these people that I thought were my friends so much so that I lost sight of my goal, if but for an instant, but for one instant too many.

Moving on is a sign of weakness I know, but I must.

I too have sinned and must respect that the master of the house will do what is right this time around.

Why?


how can I put it...

In a sea of weeds, If I want a ____ to bloom as beautifully as can be, to do that I must first focus on defining clearly that which I serve to protect...
 

FleshLight

Diamond Member
Mar 18, 2004
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Didn't read any of that but I'm happy that my midterm got postponed due to a fire alarm =)
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
Apr 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: FleshLight
Didn't read any of that but I'm happy that my midterm got postponed due to a fire alarm =)

lol...some douches said they did that too during some other semester....

I was just like "lol..OMFG...oh wait...you're serious"



<---pathetic idealist sometimes
 

YoungGun21

Platinum Member
Aug 17, 2006
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People cheat all the time because now it is such a competition for the best grades that it doesn't even matter if you know anytihng or not. Sadly there is no way around it because if you decide to just take whatever grade you "earn" then you won't get a nice scholarship or any awards.

It sucks but whatever its become so much of a game now it doesn't even matter to me anymore.
 

soydios

Platinum Member
Mar 12, 2006
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Don't get angry. Get even.

But wait to decide how, like when you aren't in a punch-hole-in-wall mood.
 

Tiamat

Lifer
Nov 25, 2003
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at my university, cheating is grounds for automatic F.

If you fail due to not cheating, you might as well bring all of them down with you.
 
Jun 27, 2005
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Create a hotmail address. Call it "Engineering 107 finals cheaters@hotmail.com" or whatever.

In the e-mail explain that you are in the class but wish to remain annonymous for obvious reasons. Name names... Then explain in detail how the rest of the class cheated and copy/paste (or maybe clean it up a bit) what you just wrote here.

Your name stays out of it and the prof knows.

After that, it's up to the prof.

Me? I'm not shy about that stuff. I'd just tell the prof.
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
Apr 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: YoungGun21
People cheat all the time because now it is such a competition for the best grades that it doesn't even matter if you know anytihng or not. Sadly there is no way around it because if you decide to just take whatever grade you "earn" then you won't get a nice scholarship or any awards.

It sucks but whatever its become so much of a game now it doesn't even matter to me anymore.

I think the most hurtful aspect of all of this is that I take the time to put up notes to help everyone out (originally like 8o students)

the teacher didn't even endorse it until half-way through the term. I am doing it on my own....no extra credit...for all, including myself to benefit from

and to learn that they used my work to cheat....

urgh....I feel so violated...
 
S

SlitheryDee

I think I could get over people cheating and scoring better than my honest best-effort, but if the cheated with MY WEBSITE?! OH HELL NO. I wouldn't want any connection with that BS and I surely wouldn't help them anymore. Obviously they don't need help if all they're going to do is cheat anyway.
 

jagec

Lifer
Apr 30, 2004
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College? Report it. Without academic honesty, your degree is worth nothing. If this was high school that would be one thing, but cheating in college should mean automatic expulsion.
 

sindows

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Dec 11, 2005
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Your parents raised a fine soul and you should be proud of it.

Heres a joke which should make you feel better...

A turkey was chatting with a bull. "I would love to be able to get to the
top of that tree," sighed the turkey, but I haven't got the energy."
"Well, why don't you nibble on my droppings?" replied the bull. "They're
packed with nutrients."

The turkey pecked at a lump of dung and found that it gave him enough
strength to reach the lowest branch of the tree. The next day, after eating
some more dung, he reached the second branch. Finally after a fourth night,
there he was proudly perched at the top of the tree.

Soon he was spotted by a farmer, who shot the turkey out of the tree.

Moral of the story: Bullshit might get you to the top, but it won't keep you
there.
 

Cuda1447

Lifer
Jul 26, 2002
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Best rant in awhile. Incoherent, genuine anger, hatred, cursing, mixed emotions, rambling... this is a good one.
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
Apr 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: Trevelyan
What's the class?

circuit analysis....


the absolute beginning of what is to be a slew of electricity-related courses for EE...


Like I said, and am not ashamed to admit it anymore, I am behind, but I'm truckin'....grinding my way to where I need to be....


I'll admit, the exam was tricky (laplace transforms are SOOOOO long) but it didn't justify this...
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Create a hotmail address. Call it "Engineering 107 finals cheaters@hotmail.com" or whatever.

In the e-mail explain that you are in the class but wish to remain annonymous for obvious reasons. Name names... Then explain in detail how the rest of the class cheated and copy/paste (or maybe clean it up a bit) what you just wrote here.

Your name stays out of it and the prof knows.

After that, it's up to the prof.

Me? I'm not shy about that stuff. I'd just tell the prof.

I like this idea! If the prof is smart they'll probably respond by having an unscheduled re-test, and the folks who cheated the first time will probably get screwed.
 
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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: YoungGun21
People cheat all the time because now it is such a competition for the best grades that it doesn't even matter if you know anytihng or not. Sadly there is no way around it because if you decide to just take whatever grade you "earn" then you won't get a nice scholarship or any awards.

It sucks but whatever its become so much of a game now it doesn't even matter to me anymore.

I think the most hurtful aspect of all of this is that I take the time to put up notes to help everyone out (originally like 8o students)

the teacher didn't even endorse it until half-way through the term. I am doing it on my own....no extra credit...for all, including myself to benefit from

and to learn that they used my work to cheat....

urgh....I feel so violated...

I'm telling you... web hosted e-mail services were created for situations just like this.
 

NaOH

Diamond Member
Mar 2, 2006
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Originally posted by: YoungGun21
People cheat all the time because now it is such a competition for the best grades that it doesn't even matter if you know anytihng or not. Sadly there is no way around it because if you decide to just take whatever grade you "earn" then you won't get a nice scholarship or any awards.

It sucks but whatever its become so much of a game now it doesn't even matter to me anymore.

Seriously. I've had people fail classes when it was FREAKING HARD while I got a well earned B and then they retook it and got an A when the prof wussied out (didn't have tenure). No one knows that they failed. It SUCKS.



Also, on our last exam, people were cheating like crazy aroudn me (pulling out notes during the exam and crap). But I ended up failing with a higher grade then them anyways.

Cheaters can go to hell!
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
Apr 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
I think I could get over people cheating and scoring better than my honest best-effort, but if the cheated with MY WEBSITE?! OH HELL NO. I wouldn't want any connection with that BS and I surely wouldn't help them anymore. Obviously they don't need help if all they're going to do is cheat anyway.

I'm gonna password protect immediately until I calm down....as if it matters....


they all got grades high enough to opt-out of the final...and most of them already downloaded all the sh!t anyway
 

smack Down

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Sep 10, 2005
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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: Trevelyan
What's the class?

circuit analysis....


the absolute beginning of what is to be a slew of electricity-related courses for EE...


Like I said, and am not ashamed to admit it anymore, I am behind, but I'm truckin'....grinding my way to where I need to be....


I'll admit, the exam was tricky (laplace transforms are SOOOOO long) but it didn't justify this...

Laplace transforms are easy you just look up the transforms on your cheat sheet and make the required substitutions.
 

YoungGun21

Platinum Member
Aug 17, 2006
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If I were you I would just start cheating too. Material doesn't matter until you get to college anyway.

EDIT: Crap you are already in college I didn't realise that. In that case yes, report it! College pretty much determines your future, so don't let this crap get out of hand. I though you were in highschool! College is alot different, don't let them cheat off of you man. That sh!t is cheap.
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
Apr 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: jagec
College? Report it. Without academic honesty, your degree is worth nothing. If this was high school that would be one thing, but cheating in college should mean automatic expulsion.

I am in a bad state to think about such things right now..all riled up and shI!t........I need to calm down...


everyone will know it was me of sh!t goes down too....
 

NaOH

Diamond Member
Mar 2, 2006
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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: Trevelyan
What's the class?

circuit analysis....


the absolute beginning of what is to be a slew of electricity-related courses for EE...


Like I said, and am not ashamed to admit it anymore, I am behind, but I'm truckin'....grinding my way to where I need to be....


I'll admit, the exam was tricky (laplace transforms are SOOOOO long) but it didn't justify this...

How did they cheat if it's problem solving. Unless you're professor used same problems from hw or something.
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
Apr 10, 2001
48,775
3
81
Originally posted by: sindows
Your parents raised a fine soul and you should be proud of it.

Heres a joke which should make you feel better...

A turkey was chatting with a bull. "I would love to be able to get to the
top of that tree," sighed the turkey, but I haven't got the energy."
"Well, why don't you nibble on my droppings?" replied the bull. "They're
packed with nutrients."

The turkey pecked at a lump of dung and found that it gave him enough
strength to reach the lowest branch of the tree. The next day, after eating
some more dung, he reached the second branch. Finally after a fourth night,
there he was proudly perched at the top of the tree.

Soon he was spotted by a farmer, who shot the turkey out of the tree.

Moral of the story: Bullshit might get you to the top, but it won't keep you
there.

exactly the point driven to me by everyone today that I consulted with....
 
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