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[lyssword]

Good luck to you goose

 

[FallenHero]

talk to me goose, talk to me

 

[iversonyin]

Well, who fault it is that you get a low grade?

 

[timosyy]

Originally posted by: l6873
I have no idea if it's actually her. I gathered from the original post that the course is called egr251, and a quick google search returned a link to Northern Virginia Community College. Since Northern Virginia is listed as the thread starter's city, I assume that it's a match. Looking at the the syllabus, it appears that the material covered is similar to that of the thread starter as well. Since Rassa Rassai is the instructor for the Spring 2007 semester, I assume it's correct.

It would fit- She allowed laptops during exams, the Laplace exam was open-book, she would frequently be out of the room during exams, and the class was called EGR 251.

If it is her though, she won't do much about it, let alone try to expel them from the school or anything.

 

[jpeyton]

There are cheaters in all walks of life.

You screwed the exam on your own accord, but maintained your integrity.

If you can't come out of that kind of situation feeling proud, your life will generally be an unhappy one.

 

[Phokus]

I seriously don't see the point in cheating in engineering, i don't think it's one of those disciplines where you can fudge your way around after you graduate.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
There are cheaters in all walks of life.

You screwed the exam on your own accord, but maintained your integrity.

If you can't come out of that kind of situation feeling proud, your life will generally be an unhappy one.

1. Agreed.

2. Yeah, I was happy and felt proud that I had not cheated. The C was my own doing and had nothing to do with them. My grade was never affected. Like I said, I made some stupid mistakes and although I bitching about it all afternoon, I never blamed anyone but myself. I had a bad weekend, and just didn't study enough to avoid making stupid mistakes.

3. I was bitching about it for a while, but still told myself, and even my friends, that at least it was an honest grade. Even when they asked me why I didn't ask for help I told them I would never do such a thing . It's when that guy thanked me for the site (he used it on the exam) that set me off...that just caught me off guard. I was not expecting my site to be used like that. I had that thing up there with the best of intentions. To violate my trust like...urgh....the site is now locked and people can contact me if they want access.

4. I never had personal problems with Circuits I had a spell of depression that clouded everything a bit for a few years and am basically over it. Frankly, although my grades might not reflect the amount of arduous studying that I have put into this term, this has been my most sober time for me and frankly, this has been the term that I am most proud of. Finally I have woken up and have started churning out the hours, about 30+ hrs a week in the library. I'm incredibly rusty, but I am laying down a rock-solid foundation. once again, my grades don't show it, but I am there day in and day out.....only reason I might not be there tomorrow morning is because of a job interview....other wise I'd be there at 8:05 or earlier like every morning...

5. yes that is the teacher. I am pretty hard on myself since I have to be to catch up, so I make a habit of criticizing my teachers and such as little as possible. I'm of the frame of mind that I am not really in a position to criticize the world for my state of affairs. Whoever the teacher is, I can deal with them. Although my POV is biased, I still think she is a good teacher. She skips a lot of steps in problems which sometimes confuses the hell out of people trying to copy stuff down while trying to comprehend the material, which is why I started the website in the first place. That said, she takes the time to explain even the mos mundane things and knows her sh!t.

6. I never knew about that incident with the teacher. She has always seemed like a respectable prof, and I am disappointed to hear that she didn't lay the hammer down. It's a lover-level EE class by all means, so I can understand why she would seem jaded, but cheating is unacceptable.

I don't know what else to say right now. I'm just trying to gather my thoughts and calm the fvk down.

 

[IronWing]

After getting Cs in two semesters of Physics for Engineers and Scientists I discovered lots of students were cheating by writing crib notes on their calculator cases. I was glad for the Cs anyway as I wasn't very good. I learned most of the material in later classes.

 

[Goosemaster]

I would ask that you refrain from contacting the prof.

I'm not really sure about the best way to proceed (although I clearly know all the options) and would like to talk to speak with some close friends....

I knew you guys were resourceful, but I guess I was just so mad and no one was on AIM and I felt that I should confide my frustrations in you 200,000 or so folks

Everyone is telling me to move on, but I have never been one to follow mob mentality. that said, I can't rush into anything.

I have another test this week and two finals next week, so I'm sort of wired right now and I don't want to do something foolish.


Oh, and the Ice Cream sucked btw:|

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

bla bla bla ... welcome to the real world.

And eys, those people will suffer in the real world.

If everyone is cheatingthough, you better cheat or else your gpa relative to others will be low.

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
bla bla bla ... welcome to the real world.

And eys, those people will suffer in the real world.

If everyone is cheating though, you better cheat or else your gpa relative to others will be low.

:thumbsdown:

I say report them as you find them. Cheaters suck.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: cyclohexane

Originally posted by: Compton
Cheating happened all the time when I was an undergrad student. The "best" students made their A's by cheating.

What school do you go to?

sounds like a business school

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: ironwing
After getting Cs in two semesters of Physics for Engineers and Scientists I discovered lots of students were cheating by writing crib notes on their calculator cases. I was glad for the Cs anyway as I wasn't very good. I learned most of the material in later classes.

<---honest C's as well....


so far I am not heading the route of the builder of the Empire State building, but I should be good for a few fire hydrants


I just gotta keep at it. In the past I always lived at the top of my class.....no sense in living in the past, so getting back there isn't automatic, it isn't easy, and will take time.

I have a beautiful opportunity coming up this morning.

For now I will put this out of my mind and forget those losers....

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

If everyone is cheatingthough, you better cheat or else your gpa relative to others will be low.

If I cannot earn get my degree honestly, I do not deserve it and do not want it.

Not simply attaining the title of engineer, but to truly becoming a good engineer, at least for pathetic idealistic little brain, is a title that brings to mind notions of prestige, dedication to my fellow man, and above all, integrity.

The name alone means nothing.
The title alone means nothing.
The degree alone means nothing.

If I can't take care of all that is required for me to attain that status without compromising my integrity, I willfully reject it.

I am the only one idiotic enough, stupid enough, completely insane enough to break away from the roots of my family and try to become an engineer.

If I am going to convince them that I am right, and can indeed do it, there is only one way.


My old statics teacher spoke very little English, but even from all the way on the other side of the globe, he brought the only phrase that has stuck with me since the moment he uttered those broken words:

If you WANT to be an engineer, you have to be a GOOD engineer.

He always put it in the context of buildings and bridges whose collapse he witnessed, but alas, the truth behind the statement, even without the cloud of catastrophe over my head, still stands.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: thereds
What the fvck does this have to do with the website?

I still have no idea. OP is a blabbering idiot at this point.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: thereds
What the fvck does this have to do with the website?

I still have no idea. OP is a blabbering idiot at this point.

I'll accept that

I just needed to vent.

I guess what I should have done was land the plane...err...vent on Vent, but a spot to post had just opened up,

 

[mugs]

I hate myself for reading every post in this thread.

 

[Gilligansdingy]

Originally posted by: mugs
I hate myself for reading every post in this thread.

same here

 

[rocadelpunk]

god i know : (

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
Lighten up.

QFT

 

[Compton]

Originally posted by: cyclohexane

Originally posted by: Compton
Cheating happened all the time when I was an undergrad student. The "best" students made their A's by cheating.

What school do you go to?

LSU