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bughill99

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Target won't be matching any % off because these are clearance. I also don't remember seeing any of these on display in the store where I saw them.

If you wanna know if the TV looks good and will work for you, buy it and try it. If it sux, take it back.
 

EXman

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You can not go based on people that think these TV's are crap just because of their name.

no it is because I have seen them and Chinese TV's are JUNK apex DVDs are another thing though very hackable!
 

MadCityGuy

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I see that this set has two speakers but the specs don't say whether it's stereo or not. Last year I bought one of those 20" CompUSA Apex sets for $99. Box said "Theater Sound" but it's mono.
 

DurocShark

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Originally posted by: MadCityGuy
I see that this set has two speakers but the specs don't say whether it's stereo or not. Last year I bought one of those 20" CompUSA Apex sets for $99. Box said "Theater Sound" but it's mono.

I wouldn't be using the TV's audio anyway, so I don't care. That's a killer deal.
 

huesmann

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You know, if you sell a million units of brand A and 2 million units of brand B, and you get 150 brand B TVs in for repair and 100 brand A TVs in for repair, are you going to assume that brand B sucks compared to brand A?
 

Fireye0

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I _highly_ suggest buying a cheaper, smaller TV, and waiting to save up for a good quality large screen. I would deffinately suggest the $149 20" flatscreen Daewoo from BestBuy. I've had it about 8 months now, and it's performed flawlessly. the component in, while not dvd resolution (as tested w/ AVIA), is about 380-400 lines of resolution. No issues at all (After properly tuning the set). Save up and buy yourself a nice, big old widescreen hdtv.
 

RobsTV

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deleted comments as it's not worth the effort.

If you buy your TV's from a good place, at least you can return them if you are not happy at some point later.
 

xobitx

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This is an nice deal for the price. Most people that will buy this tv will be satisfied with it. I bought it to move up from a Admiral 27"(a piece of junk but has woked for 3 years) I paid $200 for it 3 years ago. So to get a bigger slightly better tv for the same price is a great deal. Yes its not the best tv but you could buy 2 for the price of one of the same size but a good brand with higher quality.
 

Caminetto

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Certainly agree with craftech that the Consumer Reports repair records should give a good indication of reliability. The Consumer Reports repair evaluation is simply the survey of the hundreds of thousands of subscribers.
 

Sesopedalian

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For those who can't find, or don't want, the Target one, Ultimate Electronics has the Consumer Reports top-rated 32" JVC AV32430 on clearance for $348.95. I bet this one would also be RobsTV approved! I think this is the current top TV for quality, size, and price.
 

vroom1810

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I was at my local walmart today and they have a symphonic 19 or 20 inch flat screen for $98. Is this any good?
 

Posttal

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Has anyone by chance found out who makes the e-gear television??
I was doing a search for it and ran accross this board and you fine gents.I think this is the ONLY reference to a e-gear tv on the net.I was up at target here in cleveland and they had a 32"floor model for 149.95 marked down from 299.00.At that price I wasnt gonna pass it up,floor model or not.But the I was informed that they lost the remote..I asked them to throw in a universal remote but they said they couldn't..but they did take off another 30%.So for 104.00 I left the store happy with a 32"TV.My problem now is that my old universal remote doesn't list a e-gear and my fingers are cramping up from trying different codes.
Anybody got a clue to who makes it???
Thanks
 

SoulAssassin

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Originally posted by: MustangSVT
how much does it cost and can i rent it from blockbuster etc.??

I got mine from Amazon. $20 I believe some blockbusters used to carry the old one but not the new one. YMMV. No amount of tweaking will turn a inferior set into a good one so it will only get you so far with a TV like this. It's designed more for a HD home theater type environment.
 

Posttal

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Hey..
I want to post a thank you on the board.I wrote earlier that i bought a 32" E-GEAR TV at target and couldn't get a remote for it and didnt know who atually made the TV.
Well I want to thank ROBSDEALS for posting that its the same TV as a SANSUI TVS3245.I called there 1-800 number and found that it actually ORION television..which also is packaged under the SANSUI and E-GEAR names.I explained to them the problem..there cross checked the model numbers and are shipping me a free factory remote for the TV.
Couldn't of found all the info if it wasn't for this place.
Thanks:beer:
 

russw

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Originally posted by: RobsTV
If you buy your TV's from a good place, at least you can return them if you are not happy at some point later.

I sent my brother over to Fry's to buy a 32" Sharp (32US60) on sale til Tues 1/20/04 for $249. Glad to hear that Sharp still gets a good "hands on" rating.

This Fry's offering is a repeat sale item and will likely go on sale again in the next month.
Sharp at Fry's btw: not listed at Outpost.com
...russ
 

RobsTV

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Originally posted by: Caminetto
Certainly agree with craftech that the Consumer Reports repair records should give a good indication of reliability. The Consumer Reports repair evaluation is simply the survey of the hundreds of thousands of subscribers.

Keep in mind that repair rate and failure rate are not at all the same.
For example.

#1. 10 Toshiba 27" sets are sold for $300 each. These should last 10+ years without issues.
But like anything, a freak thing can go wrong, so in two years 1 TV breaks.

#2. 10 No-Name 27" TV's are sold for $200 each. These are "made" to last 2 to 3 years, thrown out, and another bought.
In 2 years, 4 have broken, right on schedule. But like above, a freak thing happens, and one actually lasted 6 years!

#1. The owner of the broke quality set calls in, then has it repaired for $65 (that is our actual average repair cost for good sets).
Repair cost was about 20% of replacement cost, and TV should then last 10+ years like it was built to.

#2. Out of the 4 cheap sets that broke, 2 throw them out and buy new, while the other 2 call in for repair estimate.
Because of the low quality, most shops will tell them to throw them out, as it is not worth putting money into junk.
We have to stand behind everything we do, but have no control over parts quality, so we don't marry junk sets.
Should they still insist on wanting to go against the grain, and have it repaired, they then must fight the manufacturer's goals.
Parts and availability will be priced to steer customer away from having it fixed.
With these disposable sets, parts can be 2 to 4 times more than the good sets, and it can take months for some to arrive,
(Have had some Emerson parts on back order for 8 months, and some Sanyo's tuners on back order for 2 months).
So then one of the two customers decides to wait, while the other goes with professional recommendation and throws it out.
The remaining customer buys another cheap 27" TV for $200 anyway, so he can watch something while waiting for parts to arrive.
Parts arrive, and the idiot pays the $120 parts and labor charge to fix his $200 TV. You do the math.

End results are 1 out of 10 Toshiba's were repaired, and 1 out of 10 junk sets were repaired.

That IS an example of how we see these EVERYDAY in the real world of TV servicing.
More times than not it is much worse for the disposable sets.
Most days we are lucky, and all buyers of the disposables throw them out.
That ends up being 1 out of 10 good sets were repaired, while 0 out of 10 cheap sets were repaired!
So Toshiba would have a worse repair rate than no-name brand.

Also, who subscribes to Consumer Reports and fills out surveys?
I would guess that most that buy lowend sets do not sub to CR, while those that are more financially able will subscribe.
This leads to very erroneous stats, as the chances of seeing Daewoo or Apex TV's in expensive homes are not as great
as seeing them in trailer park residents home that don't subscribe to CR.

Some brands, like Apex, and Zenith, as well as RCA/GE BS's, we no longer touch no matter what, and give those owners another
shop's phone number to call.
However, there is much more to the formula, such as some of those that bought disposable sets, take them back to Walmart,
while sometimes a quality manufacturer will pay to have a TV repaired even well out of warranty (Have seen both Sharp and
Toshiba foot the bill if customer wrote to them. Have also seen letters from RCA/GE/Proscan stating that they are sorry TV broke
after 7 months, but warranty period has expired, and they will do nothing after warranty expires).

I understand that in these forums what matters most is the upfront $$ spent, and most feel lucky based on previous TV's life.
You will pay more in the end if you buy lowend TV's.

If you want a good $200 TV, then buy a 1 to 4 year old used Sony, Toshiba, JVC or Sharp (well for $200 you can almost buy a
new Sharp). At least then you will have a good TV that should still last you 10+ years, and most shops give you the same 90
day warranty that you would get with a cheap new set. (you may even impress your friends with name brand stuff in your home).
Even better, shop around, and you can probably find 27" versions of used quality sets for $100 or less.

Flame on, but I am again done in this thread, and will not comment further.
 

Rhess3

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I got one for $149.98 in a sealed box, the last one at the store. The TV seams fine, it is an Orion with a 90 day warrenty. We are satisfied with it, now I will wait and see how long it lasts...
 

Lucky

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RobsTV has always seemed to have good advice but I trust consumer reports more. Yes, sanyo was consistently ranked at or near the top. Which was the reason I bought my 27" sanyo about five years ago. Four moves later and the thing still works perfectly despite countless cups of beer being spilled on it during college.

During surveys, brands are not included if there is not a high enough response rate to draw any meaningful conclusion. And I think you'd be surprised at the amount of rich folks that have cheap TV's.
 

Danman

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There is one left in the storage at the East Colonial Store here in Orlando, Fl. I decided not to get it since I am taking RobsTV's advice and I am going to wait for a deal on a TV that will last me awhile, I just don't have money to throw out. Oh, btw this TV at the Target here is 149....brand new.
 

FFactory0x

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soon tv's will be free after rebate. I know it. I mean as of now you can pricematch tvs to staples which carries a good selection and use a coupon to save more
 

kroq

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I wonder if it's in anyway related to the APEX 32". Around XMAS Circuit City had some limited supply of 32" APEX for 199.99. Almost jumped on it. With front A/V inputs, whoa.....
 

IndyJaws

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Originally posted by: Lucky
RobsTV has always seemed to have good advice but I trust consumer reports more. Yes, sanyo was consistently ranked at or near the top. Which was the reason I bought my 27" sanyo about five years ago. Four moves later and the thing still works perfectly despite countless cups of beer being spilled on it during college. During surveys, brands are not included if there is not a high enough response rate to draw any meaningful conclusion. And I think you'd be surprised at the amount of rich folks that have cheap TV's.

You should really listen to RobsTV. I've worked for a large consumer electronic chain for over 20 years (no, not BB or CC - I actually have a brain and know my product). He is right on when it comes to brand suggestions. Having had a very vested interest in Consumer Reports for many years, since what they recommend people will be more willing to buy, I can say for a fact that they are wrong many more times than they are right. To say that Sanyo is the top-rated brand for repair would be an insult if it weren't so laughable. Somewhat along the lines if they said that e-machines computers are the top-rated in terms of service and reliability. There would be those that said that their e-machine has worked great for years; others would complain that their computer was a piece of caca.

One other thing to remember about reader cards in CR...If I buy a Mitsubishi big screen, I will hold it to a higher standard than, say, a Toshiba, Hitachi, Zenith, etc. If I have to have a repair earlier than I think I should, having held that TV in high esteem, I will vote it poorly. However, if I buy a "cheap" brand, like a Sanyo, Sharp, Apex, etc, I will "cut it some slack" and if it needs a repair in a few years, it's something that I expected, at least in the back of my mind. That's how the votes are skewed, in addition to RobsTV's explanation about cheap brands not being repaired in the first place as opposed to quality sets.

However, I have bought cheap TV's with the knowledge that if I get a few years of service, I'm happy. If they last longer than that, which they do at times, great! Just know what you're getting - poorer picture quality (there is no debate on that), fewer features, a chance that it won't last as long as you hope.

Indy
 

Sesopedalian

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Consumer Reports is great for evaluation between products, but as far a long-terrm reliability and repair records go, one must keep in mind that the sample is biased. The data comes from a group that 1) Subscribes to Consumer Reports 2) Actually sends in their survey. 3) Has the products mentioned. That is very specific group and would be considered a biased sample that gathers data from only one specific group of respondents. Still, it's better than nothing, and should be weighed accordingly with other factors which are personally relevant in making a purchase decision. I would agree with the theory that someone who has purchased a expensive TV may be more angry if it breaks and thus be more motivated to fill out the survey and report it, than someone who has purchased a cheap TV that breaks, which would put that product more in line with the persons expectations. (You get what you pay for) Such an orientation would result in more expensive brands being rated in a harsher light that would lower their ratiings.
 
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