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[Damn Dirty Ape]

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[Gulzakar]

You sounded as though you were looking for any excuse to dislike this boy.

 

[Damn Dirty Ape]

Originally posted by: Gulzakar
You sounded as though you were looking for any excuse to dislike this boy.

no, in fact a number of posts back I mentioned that he seems like a decent guy.

 

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[kalrith]

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape

Originally posted by: kalrith

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape

Originally posted by: halik
Your money, your say.

not our money going to pay for it, but we are supporting our daughter until she gets a part time job since she just started junior college. Want to make sure our money that goes to her doesn't end up paying for the upcoming costs.

I forgot to mention she's rather upset with him that he wouldn't listen to her and slow down right before it happened.

How exactly are you going to do this? Unless you specifically send the payment for her bills, she'll spend your money on whatever she wants to.

And with her boyfriend out of a job, it looks like you'll be footing the whole bill for the apartment, utilities, food, phone, TV, etc.

We kind of are doing it this way - some spending $$ but bills get brought to us.

Good. I've seen too many times when someone supports someone else (child, parent, sibling, etc.) and just sends them money to cover the bills. They spend all the money on other things and then call their support person and say, "I don't have money for the house payment this month!"

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Quintox

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: xboxist

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape

Originally posted by: xboxist
96 in a 70? What a dipshit.

Not the smartest thing, that's for sure. I'm waiting to have a chat about it with him. Ya know, responsibility. He wipes out at damn near 100 on the interstate by himself and rolls down an embankment, that's one thing, but someone else in the car and moderate traffic around him that just makes it worse.

Your daughter is 19 and obviously an adult now and so I guess you're willing/able to let her make decisions on her own. But 96 in a 70 is reckless beyond need and shows a lack of respect for your daughter, her parents and everyone else on the road. "Just wanting to get there" is a shitty excuse. Drive a safer speed or pull over and take a nap.

I'd say that's a tad extreme. If there was no traffic or light traffic and he drives a performance car that 96mph could be very reasonable and not at all dangerous.

Like a Lotus Elise?

Sure.

Or a BMW M3, or any number of the wide variety of other sports sedans.

The Elise is not a sedan. :|

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape

Originally posted by: JDub02

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape
Against our (and grandparents who are reverends, friends) they are getting an apartment and moving in together. Yes she's an adult and can do whatever she wants, but still wants us to fully support her $$-wise.

This I don't get.

1. It's not relevent to the speeding ticket.
2. It obviously bothers you or you wouldn't have noted it.
3. In my house, if you expect support, you better follow my rules. Otherwise, good luck on your own.

well, it just doesn't look really very good for the grandchild to move in with someone after 3 months AND LIVE ACROSS THE STREET from the church. Small town, people talk, etc..

Hahaha. You are gonna be outcasts now. Maybe you should just go ahead and tryto introduce dancing and rock and roll into the village since you have nothing to lose. That'll teach that bible thumping Reverend Moore!

 

[jemcam]

What does the reverend thing have to do with the whole story? Does that automatically make them right? Oh wiat, let me go ask hundreds of pedophile Catholic Priests what they think.

 

[jemcam]

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape

Originally posted by: JDub02

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape
Against our (and grandparents who are reverends, friends) they are getting an apartment and moving in together. Yes she's an adult and can do whatever she wants, but still wants us to fully support her $$-wise.

This I don't get.

1. It's not relevent to the speeding ticket.
2. It obviously bothers you or you wouldn't have noted it.
3. In my house, if you expect support, you better follow my rules. Otherwise, good luck on your own.

well, it just doesn't look really very good for the grandchild to move in with someone after 3 months AND LIVE ACROSS THE STREET from the church. Small town, people talk, etc..

I lived with my wife for 2.5 years before we married. We were in our early 20s when we moved in together, don't recall ever asking my grandparents what they thought of it. Don't recall ever caring if there was a church near where we lived either.

My god, people living together, in sin, within sight of the church! :shocked: What is this world coming to?

obviously you're not familiar with small towns and how people talk. They have a church there and just kind of care that the people in that small town. They'd rather not have this happening.

There's your problem, living your life to please other people. Sounds like she's alredy learned the lesson and you haven't. I'm not saying that it gives you carte blanche to live against the rules of society (not that cohabitation is) but come on! This is a bit ridiculous to get spun up about isn't it?

If she wants to do something you don't think she should be doing, you should tell her to live by your rules as long as you're paying the bills.

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Curious myself so I called my uncle, he worked as a balif for the local magistrate for many years. This is what he told me.

$100-200 for speeding + $20-$50 for other charges. 4-6 points on license , possible suspension but if he takes the drivers ed school he can get that waived. + probation for 2 years where if he does anything like that again he loses his license.


So quite a bit.
This is in NC not kentucky though so it could be a lot different.

wtf? that's it for the speeding?

i got $186 for 12 over

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Quintox

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: xboxist

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape

Originally posted by: xboxist
96 in a 70? What a dipshit.

Not the smartest thing, that's for sure. I'm waiting to have a chat about it with him. Ya know, responsibility. He wipes out at damn near 100 on the interstate by himself and rolls down an embankment, that's one thing, but someone else in the car and moderate traffic around him that just makes it worse.

Your daughter is 19 and obviously an adult now and so I guess you're willing/able to let her make decisions on her own. But 96 in a 70 is reckless beyond need and shows a lack of respect for your daughter, her parents and everyone else on the road. "Just wanting to get there" is a shitty excuse. Drive a safer speed or pull over and take a nap.

I'd say that's a tad extreme. If there was no traffic or light traffic and he drives a performance car that 96mph could be very reasonable and not at all dangerous.

Like a Lotus Elise?

Sure.

Or a BMW M3, or any number of the wide variety of other sports sedans.

The Elise is not a sedan. :|

I said performance car. I didn't specify any particular body type. In my response to Quintox I elaborated on my original post to include sports sedans. I never said the Elise was a sedan.

 

[Rilescat]

give him a hammer. Tell him to 'an hero'.

He will know.

 

[JDub02]

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape

Originally posted by: JDub02

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape
Against our (and grandparents who are reverends, friends) they are getting an apartment and moving in together. Yes she's an adult and can do whatever she wants, but still wants us to fully support her $$-wise.

This I don't get.

1. It's not relevent to the speeding ticket.
2. It obviously bothers you or you wouldn't have noted it.
3. In my house, if you expect support, you better follow my rules. Otherwise, good luck on your own.

well, it just doesn't look really very good for the grandchild to move in with someone after 3 months AND LIVE ACROSS THE STREET from the church. Small town, people talk, etc..

I get what you're saying. I'm certainly not arguing against your stance. If it were my daughter, my response would have been "over my dead body". My father is a minister, so I understand the sensitivity. I'm also alot more old-fashioned than most of ATOT.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape

Originally posted by: JDub02

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape
Against our (and grandparents who are reverends, friends) they are getting an apartment and moving in together. Yes she's an adult and can do whatever she wants, but still wants us to fully support her $$-wise.

This I don't get.

1. It's not relevent to the speeding ticket.
2. It obviously bothers you or you wouldn't have noted it.
3. In my house, if you expect support, you better follow my rules. Otherwise, good luck on your own.

well, it just doesn't look really very good for the grandchild to move in with someone after 3 months AND LIVE ACROSS THE STREET from the church. Small town, people talk, etc..

I lived with my wife for 2.5 years before we married. We were in our early 20s when we moved in together, don't recall ever asking my grandparents what they thought of it. Don't recall ever caring if there was a church near where we lived either.

My god, people living together, in sin, within sight of the church! :shocked: What is this world coming to?

obviously you're not familiar with small towns and how people talk. They have a church there and just kind of care that the people in that small town. They'd rather not have this happening.

Who gives a fuck what they want happening. What they're doing isn't illegal and it's none of their business so screw them.

God I'm glad I don't live in an area like that.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Ehh, 96 in a 70 isn't bad .... I'd argue that the speed limit was probably too low. (There are LOTS of roads in IL where I feel it's perfectly save to drive 100+ mph during most of the day, but I don't drive like that any more since It's a waste of $$$ to get tickets and crappy gas milage)

That said ... improper lane change is something so easily prevented .... and it doesn't waste any time or money either .... fast car who drives very aggressively and carelessly can be a danger on the road ... fast car who drives defensively and thoughtfully is really not a problem .... sounds like he may be the wreckless type.


That said, your daughter's 19, help her back up when she falls down, but you shouldn't have to financially support her much ....
Also, IMO it's ALWAYS better to live together for a while before deciding to marry ....

You learn a lot about a person that way ... and I think the divorce rate would be lower if everyone were forced to cohabit in the same house for 2 or 3 years BEFORE getting married ...

 

[ShawnD1]

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape
My wife and I are going to have a few words to say to him when we see him, thats' a given. Im' more curious as to what he's going to face insurance-wise, $$-wise, etc.

My brother had a dangerous driving ticket when he was 19. His insurance rates went up to $10,000 per year so there was a 2 year period where he couldn't drive. He got pretty good at knowing the bus schedule and how long it takes to walk to various parts of town.

 

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[thepd7]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape

Originally posted by: halik
Your money, your say.

not our money going to pay for it, but we are supporting our daughter until she gets a part time job since she just started junior college. Want to make sure our money that goes to her doesn't end up paying for the upcoming costs.

I forgot to mention she's rather upset with him that he wouldn't listen to her and slow down right before it happened.

Well you're paying your 19-yo daughter to move in with her current bf (emphasis on current) - it's a bad idea in general and specifically because I'm guessing you'll be paying the rent.

I can see him continuing to pay for her schooling, and I would encourage her to continue with that and complete her education. But yeah, if she wants to live like an adult (and she is an adult) she should be paying for her living expenses like an adult.

When my wife an I moved in together we both paid for our living expenses. Nothing wrong with that.

this. OP, if your daughter is moving in with a guy and you don't agree with the situation you shouldn't be paying for anything.

 

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[ShawnD1]

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape

Originally posted by: ShawnD1

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape
My wife and I are going to have a few words to say to him when we see him, thats' a given. Im' more curious as to what he's going to face insurance-wise, $$-wise, etc.

My brother had a dangerous driving ticket when he was 19. His insurance rates went up to $10,000 per year so there was a 2 year period where he couldn't drive. He got pretty good at knowing the bus schedule and how long it takes to walk to various parts of town.

10k a YEAR? What was he doing to get the ticket I must ask?

He was swerving back and forth between lanes at about 3am. There might not be any cars on the road but it's still very illegal to do that. Dangerous driving tickets are something like 6 points and he already had 3 points for stunting.

 

[mafia]

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: xboxist

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape

Originally posted by: xboxist
96 in a 70? What a dipshit.

Not the smartest thing, that's for sure. I'm waiting to have a chat about it with him. Ya know, responsibility. He wipes out at damn near 100 on the interstate by himself and rolls down an embankment, that's one thing, but someone else in the car and moderate traffic around him that just makes it worse.

Your daughter is 19 and obviously an adult now and so I guess you're willing/able to let her make decisions on her own. But 96 in a 70 is reckless beyond need and shows a lack of respect for your daughter, her parents and everyone else on the road. "Just wanting to get there" is a shitty excuse. Drive a safer speed or pull over and take a nap.

I'd say that's a tad extreme. If there was no traffic or light traffic and he drives a performance car that 96mph could be very reasonable and not at all dangerous.

moderate traffic, , 4cyl chevy cavalier. car loaded trunk/backseats with probably 300# of stuff.

Yeah it would be okay if it was a BMW or something. But a 4cyl Chevy Cavalier doing 96mph is not safe. That car isn't built to go that fast and its easy to lose control.