$3500 for this system specs.

[SnowBowl]

sounds like a deal ? or am I overpaying grossly for this setup ? here the specs. I am coming off i7 930 with 500w psu.

1000w silverstone psu
64 gb ddr 4 geil
i7 6850k
asus x99 deluxe II
geforce 1080
mid tower case li lan ( pretty sure going with this one )
Micron M600 1TB SSD no raiding setup.
16x ASUS BLU RAY reader / burner

add $500 and change for Asus PB287Q 28" 3840x2160 if I want a new monitor.

 

[mnewsham]

1000w PSU for a 180w GPU and a 140W CPU is pretty damn dumb.

Also, you should get the 6800k as the 6850k is identical to it besides the extra PCIe lanes (which you aren't using). The 6800k has 28 PCIe lanes, your GPU will use 16 lanes, that leaves 12 lanes for whatever else you want (sound card, sata card, network card, etc). Unless you plan on running 3 or 4 GPUs just get the 6800k. The 6850k has 40 PCIe lanes, but what good is 40 lanes when you aren't even using more than 16?

 

[MustISO]

Seems like major overkill unless you have a specific need or just like wasting money.

 

[SnowBowl]

1000w PSU for a 180w GPU and a 140W CPU is pretty damn dumb.

Also, you should get the 6800k as the 6850k is identical to it besides the extra PCIe lanes (which you aren't using). The 6800k has 28 PCIe lanes, your GPU will use 16 lanes, that leaves 12 lanes for whatever else you want (sound card, sata card, network card, etc). Unless you plan on running 3 or 4 GPUs just get the 6800k. The 6850k has 40 PCIe lanes, but what good is 40 lanes when you aren't even using more than 16?

Thanks for this info!!! I have revised the list all specs are the same except I changed it to 750w psu and 6800k for $2,680. much better ?

 

[MongGrel]

Thanks for this info!!! I have revised the list all specs are the same except I changed it to 750w psu and 6800k for $2,680. much better ?

Depends on what you are planning on doing with it still.

A few things still look like overkill.

 

[SnowBowl]

Seems like major overkill unless you have a specific need or just like wasting money.

I plan to game 3 or 4 different games.. star wars battlefront, mafia 3 ( this fall ) , battlefield , etc. not a hardcore gamer but the games I like to play require a decent GPU. plus I do some of folding / crunching. the poor i7 930 doesn't get me many points per day.

 

[MongGrel]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2389797&page=8

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/wpqVnn

I used to use a I7 920 myself I guess, plunked a X5680 in here and still running that atm around 4.5

Does see you could tone it down a few more on a few things, so you really need that much RAM ?

I guess I read it might be different on newer systems these days, more RAM used to cause complications sometimes in the past.

 

[Ken g6]

If you will not overclock you should get a 6700K for gaming. If you will overclock maybe you should get a 5820K. I don't see the value of a 6800.

 

[DigDog]

wwwah? that is WAY too expensive.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/W4xccc


CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Newegg)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-UD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($132.88 @ OutletPC)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($70.88 @ OutletPC)

Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Amazon)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card ($649.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ NCIX US)

Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($46.85 @ OutletPC)

Total: $1635.44

am I overpaying grossly for this setup ?

idk, you tell me.

 

[SnowBowl]

Dig Dog, that sounds good but I prefer X99 platform but nice price, I would feel much comfortable with $1600-2200 range, I have decided to dial it back down a bit. who make the tower cases for Falcon Northwest Talon cases ? I like it alot but not their prices which is even more than $3500 if I had gone with my original specs. Ouch!

 

[DigDog]

sorry, don't know.

the X99 platform is for the home professional; their CPU is actually slower than Skylake, and its purpose is for software which scales with more than 4 cores.
again i have to point out that even for most softwares that do, the faster, 4 core, 4 thread 6700K can easily keep up.

sure, it's your money. i'm not telling you not to buy it, i'm just asking you if the 6-core would be useful to you.

here is a build based on the needs of a video editor.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/rNqm8K


CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($429.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-SLI ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($227.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($359.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card ($649.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($46.85 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2118.56

64Gb of ram and 6 cores. add 2 more cores for $500.

the price isn't too crazy; both systems will give you probably more power than you'll ever need.

 

[mnewsham]

their CPU is actually slower than Skylake

While yes, this is true. the 5820k/6800k is hardly a slouch when it comes to single core performance, you're talking about ~5-10% performance difference at the same clockspeed. The biggest difference is the 6700k comes at 4GHz stock but the 5820k/6800k start 3.3/3.4GHz once you clock the 5820k/6800k to 4GHz (or higher if you like) the 5820k and 6800k become close enough in single core performance that you'd be hard pressed to notice outside synthetic benchmarks.

But for multicore performance they will be a good 30% faster than a 6700k, even without OCing.

 

[SnowBowl]

UPDATE: After doing so much looking around online and shit. how does this sounds for $1,140 ?

i7 6700K , 12 GB RAM , 980 vid card , Micron M600 512 GB SSD , evga 700w psu

 

[UsandThem]

UPDATE: After doing so much looking around online and shit. how does this sounds for $1,140 ?

i7 6700K , 12 GB RAM , 980 vid card , Micron M600 512 GB SSD , evga 700w psu

A lot better than the $3,500 one.

The card is a little weak for 4k gaming though.

Is that a pre-built system or parts you selected for a build?

 

[SnowBowl]

A lot better than the $3,500 one.

The card is a little weak for 4k gaming though.

Is that a pre-built system or parts you selected for a build?

parts I selected for a build 90% from egg store. and you would step up to 980Ti for little bit more $$ ?

 

[UsandThem]

For 4k gaming, the 980ti would be the bare minimum entry level card. Even then, a single 980ti will struggle at 4k in some games. You really should be looking at the GTX 1080, or even GTX 1070 SLI. There's not much reason to get a 980ti now unless you already had one and wanted another for SLI. Even a single GTX 1080 is unable to run all games at 60 FPS at 4k.

The 4k gaming club is a pricey club to be in.

Also, since you are dealing with parts and not a pre-built, I would recommend getting a 16 GB RAM kit (2 × 8 GB) instead of the 12 GB you listed.

Here is a thorough review which shows the performance of the 980ti vs 1080 at various resolutions:

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-review,1.html

 

[DigDog]

are you joking? he's getting that system for $1100, and you want him to buy a card that costs $700?

 

[SnowBowl]

here an update, I spend all night doing research and pulling my hair out lol but here the parts I just ordered, finally pull the plug!

i7 6700k , GIGABYTE G1 GAZ170X Gaming GT , 2 x 8gb hyper X matching kit , Intel 730 SSD ( 480 GB ) , evga 700w psu came out at $1,023 plus I get 2% cash back using my CC.

 

[UsandThem]

are you joking? he's getting that system for $1100, and you want him to buy a card that costs $700?

He originally was going to spend $3500.

I was just offering him advice since he wants to game at 4k. That is not a cheap thing to do, and a lot of people posting 'rate my build' threads don't understand how expensive 4k gaming is.

I'm not sure why you think I am joking. I gave him the link to read about the cards, and decide for himself.

Edit:

And I just noticed you recommended a GTX 1080 a few posts earlier. Not sure what the issue is with me mentioning the same card.

 

[sm625]

sounds like a deal ? or am I overpaying grossly for this setup ? here the specs. I am coming off i7 930 with 500w psu.

1000w silverstone psu
64 gb ddr 4 geil
i7 6850k
asus x99 deluxe II
geforce 1080
mid tower case li lan ( pretty sure going with this one )
Micron M600 1TB SSD no raiding setup.
16x ASUS BLU RAY reader / burner

It looks like $1500 worth of parts sans the SSD and RAM. IMO you're not getting anything meaningful from having that much RAM or SSD storage, certainly not $2000 worth.

 

[UsandThem]

It looks like $1500 worth of parts sans the SSD and RAM. IMO you're not getting anything meaningful from having that much RAM or SSD storage, certainly not $2000 worth.

That was his original question. He decided to go with a 6700k build a couple of posts back.

 

[DigDog]

because he's getting a great deal on a 980.
the money not spent on a pc today, can be spent on a pc tomorrow. that's why.

also, i in no way recommend a 1080 - i say wait for the 480.
i just provided him a list of components to match his 3.5k build to show him how much more he was paying.

 

[UsandThem]

because he's getting a great deal on a 980.
the money not spent on a pc today, can be spent on a pc tomorrow. that's why.

also, i in no way recommend a 1080 - i say wait for the 480.
i just provided him a list of components to match his 3.5k build to show him how much more he was paying.

Good to know for the future.

RX 480 is available now, but they aren't targeted towards 4k gaming, unless in Crossfire (although I haven't read the reviews on Crossfire performance yet).

People have been able to get 6700k systems with a GTX 980ti for the last 8 months for under $1,200 when caught on sale. A system with a GTX 980 for $1100 now didn't strike me as a great value at this point in time.

If he was piecing the computer together (as he said he was), that GTX 980 is in the neighborhood of $370. Way too much to buy it today when even 980ti cards have been in the $380 range from Newegg after MIR.

So, if building a system today for 4k, the choices are still a 980ti, GTX 1070, or a GTX 1080. But like I told him, read some reviews and benchmarks and decide what is best for him.

 

[SnowBowl]

Yeah, originally I was gonna go with $3500 system ideas, but then reality and sensibility kicked in so that's why its much less lol , dont forget I am coming off i7 930 x58 , so this should be a nice noticeable from going i7 930 to 6700K lol , but I forgot about cooling options , should I go with good copper sink or go with water cooled set up? if I do go with water setup will it get me to around 4.7 GHz or so on 6700K ?

 

[UsandThem]

Yeah, originally I was gonna go with $3500 system ideas, but then reality and sensibility kicked in so that's why its much less lol , dont forget I am coming off i7 930 x58 , so this should be a nice noticeable from going i7 930 to 6700K lol , but I forgot about cooling options , should I go with good copper sink or go with water cooled set up? if I do go with water setup will it get me to around 4.7 GHz or so on 6700K ?

It depends on who you ask. There are water water AIO fans, and there are air-cooler fans.

I am an air-cooler fan, so I will recommend the Noctua NH-D15 or the NH-D15S. Noctua fans cost a little more, but I will admit I am a big fan of their products because of their quality, performance, quietness, customer service, and ease of installation. There are cheaper options out there and some other options that are around the same price, but once again I recommend you read some reviews and see what will work best for you.

For any type of cooler/overclocking reviews, I go to these guys and to their forums because you can find very good advice there on everything overclocking:

http://www.overclockers.com/category/reviews/cooling-reviews/

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/6-Cooling