360 vs PS3 Graphics

[imported_RedStar]

Yup ..it is just everyone else's imagination ...you two above me know the real deal.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/07/360-beats-down-ps3-on-tv/

as to the mouse + keyboard... MS specifically goes out of their way to not allow this as it would be too much like a computer. We don't want to confuse people. right?

But now that sony admits their PS3 IS a computer. Perhaps MS will have a change of heart also. But if they do ...it could be the DEATH of PC gaming -- for real this time! =)

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself
Obviously first gen PS3 titles wont be anything special... The impressive stuff will come later, just as it did with the PS2

God of War

 

[VIAN]

How can the PS3 pull ahead when it's practically the same GPU? Same generation. If anybody goes ahead of anybody else, you won't see a difference. Unless it's the 360 with its 10mb of on die RAM.

 

[VIAN]

Originally posted by: runninkyle17
Has anyone mentioned the fact that none of the 360's games have utilized multiple processors yet. GOW still only really uses one of the cores.

Dead Rising is another.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself
Obviously first gen PS3 titles wont be anything special... The impressive stuff will come later, just as it did with the PS2

Gears of War

 

[Kabob]

Originally posted by: SilverTrine
I guess people are taking their shots at the Ps3 while they still can. Because anyone who has studied the two hardwares knows that its just a matter of time till the Ps3 is producing better games than the Xbox360.

That statement is completely relative. There are PS fanboys and there are Xbox fanboys, and both will say that their games are the best.

Is MGS4 better than Halo 3? I dunno, depends on what you like. I'd say yes personally as I'm not a big fan of the Halo series. Is Gears of War better than the next big PS3 title? That's up to whoever's playing it.

Your statement is 100% personal opinion.

 

[DeathReborn]

I can see some poor quality textures being used by the PS3 but also bare trees by the 360 & at times excessive lighting. HDR is all well and good when it doesn't interfere with the gameplay and some of that glare looks very interfering to me.

Overall i'd say they've either done very well with the PS3 or poorly with the 360. Neither jumps out and says "next gen" to me yet.

 

[GundamSonicZeroX]

Originally posted by: RedStar
Yup ..it is just everyone else's imagination ...you two above me know the real deal.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/07/360-beats-down-ps3-on-tv/

as to the mouse + keyboard... MS specifically goes out of their way to not allow this as it would be too much like a computer. We don't want to confuse people. right?

But now that sony admits their PS3 IS a computer. Perhaps MS will have a change of heart also. But if they do ...it could be the DEATH of PC gaming -- for real this time! =)

So it's my imagination that I like how the HDR is toned down in the PS3 version of Fight Night and that it doesn't blind me.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: SilverTrine
I guess people are taking their shots at the Ps3 while they still can. Because anyone who has studied the two hardwares knows that its just a matter of time till the Ps3 is producing better games than the Xbox360.

Yes, because hardware is directly indicative of great games :roll: Also, most reports put both consoles practically in tandem with eachother when it comes to performance. Cell's SPEs are more of a gimmick than anything. Their worth has definitely not been proven to me or developers for that matter.

Also, who knew that consoles produced games .

 

[Kabob]

Also, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Microsoft has been saving some heavy hitting games to combat the release of the various "big name" PS3 titles. GoW came out to fight the launch, what's going to be next?

And while Xbox has had a year of extra development time overall game developing technology has also advanced as well. I think that the Xbox 360 has alot more potential for beautiful looking games simply because of the CPU architecture.

In the end (as said) it's going to come down to personal taste.

 

[ZimZum]

Originally posted by: kabob983
Also, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Microsoft has been saving some heavy hitting games to combat the release of the various "big name" PS3 titles. GoW came out to fight the launch, what's going to be next?

This where MS learned their lesson from last gen. Where their game library was probably their biggest hinderance. While horsepower is nice, in the end its about the games. This time by courting the game devs with great developers kits among other things they seem to have the upper hand at the moment in the upcoming games dept. While sony on the other hand, the list of list of PS3 exclusives is ever shrinking and not all that exciting.

 

[Kabob]

What games have recently left the PS3 exclusives list?

 

[Acanthus]

Grand theft auto is the biggest one i can think of.

 

[Kabob]

That's always been a multi-platformer though (although it usually comes out for the PS a year or so ahead of the rest). I'd love to see MGS4 on the 360

 

[ZimZum]

Originally posted by: kabob983
What games have recently left the PS3 exclusives list?

Assasins Creed
Fatal Inertia
Blade Storm
Armored Core
GTA

 

[ZimZum]

double post

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: ZimZum

Originally posted by: kabob983
What games have recently left the PS3 exclusives list?

Assasins Creed
Fatal Inertia
Blade Storm
Armored Core
GTA

And rumors of MGS being ported by Konami to the 360 continue to persist. If it does get ported in a very short time frame from the PS3's release, I think that will be the final nail in the coffin for Sony this generation.

 

[Midwayman]

If the 360 has several times the installed base as the ps3 most non-first party titles previously exclusive to sony will more than likely go to the 360. Pretty simple economics from the point of the publisher. Even if the ps3 does take off (and that's still a big if) it will likely be at least xmas 2008 before sony can catch up on installed units.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: Midwayman
If the 360 has several times the installed base as the ps3 most non-first party titles previously exclusive to sony will more than likely go to the 360. Pretty simple economics from the point of the publisher. Even if the ps3 does take off (and that's still a big if) it will likely be at least xmas 2008 before sony can catch up on installed units.

I agree and I think what's going to happen this generation is that the vast majority of publishers will port games between the 360/PS3 with very few exclusives while they also begin to setup special development houses for the Wii since it is selling so well. If anything, it seems Nintendo may come out ahead in the long run since a lot of these publishers will be devoting resources specifically for it.

 

[SilverTrine]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Midwayman
If the 360 has several times the installed base as the ps3 most non-first party titles previously exclusive to sony will more than likely go to the 360. Pretty simple economics from the point of the publisher. Even if the ps3 does take off (and that's still a big if) it will likely be at least xmas 2008 before sony can catch up on installed units.

I agree and I think what's going to happen this generation is that the vast majority of publishers will port games between the 360/PS3 with very few exclusives while they also begin to setup special development houses for the Wii since it is selling so well. If anything, it seems Nintendo may come out ahead in the long run since a lot of these publishers will be devoting resources specifically for it.

Its a little sad to see people being misleading about the consoles. Anyone who has looked at the Ps3 knows that the Cell processor is a totally different and more powerful design (8 SPEs with 1 control processor). Early ports are obviously not customized for the Cell.

To take the performance of early ports to try and paint a picture of what we can expect down the road shows a lack of understanding of the hardware or is purposefully misleading.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: SilverTrine

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Midwayman
If the 360 has several times the installed base as the ps3 most non-first party titles previously exclusive to sony will more than likely go to the 360. Pretty simple economics from the point of the publisher. Even if the ps3 does take off (and that's still a big if) it will likely be at least xmas 2008 before sony can catch up on installed units.

I agree and I think what's going to happen this generation is that the vast majority of publishers will port games between the 360/PS3 with very few exclusives while they also begin to setup special development houses for the Wii since it is selling so well. If anything, it seems Nintendo may come out ahead in the long run since a lot of these publishers will be devoting resources specifically for it.

Its a little sad to see people being misleading about the consoles. Anyone who has looked at the Ps3 knows that the Cell processor is a totally different and more powerful design (8 SPEs with 1 control processor). Early ports are obviously not customized for the Cell.

To take the performance of early ports to try and paint a picture of what we can expect down the road shows a lack of understanding of the hardware or is purposefully misleading.

There Cell is notoriously difficult to program for and the PS3 is still bottlenecked by the RSX graphically vs. Xenos. You seem to be confused if you think the Cell can magically raise the graphics bar for PS3.

 

[Kabob]

Originally posted by: SilverTrine Its a little sad to see people being misleading about the consoles. Anyone who has looked at the Ps3 knows that the Cell processor is a totally different and more powerful design (8 SPEs with 1 control processor). Early ports are obviously not customized for the Cell.

To take the performance of early ports to try and paint a picture of what we can expect down the road shows a lack of understanding of the hardware or is purposefully misleading.

And basing your entire arguement off of information that has been hand fed to you by Sony ONLY is also misleading. Yes, the Cell is powerful, no one will argue with that, but in the end the simple fact is that it'd flippin' difficult for game designers to use it to anything even close to it's potential while on the flip side it seems to be much easier for designers to use the Xenos to it's potential in the future.

Yes, early ports aren't customized for the Cell but the simple fact is that if a game developer can't make a game because building it with the Cell's technology is too difficult they're more than likely either going to shave down the details and such or port it to a system which is much easier to work with. You will see some absolutely amazing games on the PS3, but there's not going to be a ton of them if developers won't go through the hassle of designing them. And remember, these "early ports" as you say are being ported to both systems and from what I've heard neither is being given any favor. Both systems have alot of grunt to them.

In the end the single biggest selling point is going to have to be the game selection, but if Sony keeps losing their ace in the hole "exclusive" titles then what's going to keep people buying the expensive system? Blu-Ray? Unlikely...

 

[tuteja1986]

Right now all the major PS3 developer are worried because they want sony to sell 10million PS3 by the end of 07. Then major developer will start to release the high profile game after that.

 

[CrystalBay]

Firing Squad review of PS3

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: ZimZum

Originally posted by: kabob983
What games have recently left the PS3 exclusives list?

Assasins Creed
Fatal Inertia
Blade Storm
Armored Core
GTA

And rumors of MGS being ported by Konami to the 360 continue to persist. If it does get ported in a very short time frame from the PS3's release, I think that will be the final nail in the coffin for Sony this generation.

There are also rumors of Gears of War coming out on the PC. I will stick with my gaming rig over a 360.