$365.35 for the new Toshiba e310 PDA @ Ecost ....4.9 ounces, it actually weighs the same as the Palm m515

[vladgur]

<< Each for their own, but don't dare say I'm crapping on anyone's thread - unless you want to make this into USSR 1984. >>



I beg to differ. Story of 1984 took place in one of the western countries. I always thought it was US, but could be UK too.

 

[vladgur]

Now that I read through this thread, I dont see why you guys are slamming on msn. THe guy is right in a sense that he pointed out a much better deal. Especially since ecost doesnt sell it for much less than msrp. For the price of Ecost Toshiba PDA you can nearly buy 2 audiovox maestros at $209 each after rebate.
To me personally compactflash is important. While I wouldnt use it for too long on maestro because of battery concerns, if the need arises, I can use it. Also SD cards max out at 128mb and cost as much as 256mb compactflash cards. so that adds in to the cost factor.
So, I too think that Maestro is a better deal and it was not completely unreasonable to point this out here. This is not a FOR-SALE thread, so unless people take things off-topic(like many of your self-righteous members) I think its a very good idea to mention that a person could save money buying something that is very similar and yet cheaper.
Adios

 

[maxint]

msn - i think u would have a lot more important things in life to to reason why a smaller version of the same product is not beneficial.. i mean why don't we all go use mainfraims instead of our desktops.. jeeez...

 

[loup garou]

<< Now that I read through this thread, I dont see why you guys are slamming on msn >>


It's called being rude...sheesh.

 

[NFS4]

<< Now that I read through this thread, I dont see why you guys are slamming on msn. THe guy is right in a sense that he pointed out a much better deal. Especially since ecost doesnt sell it for much less than msrp. For the price of Ecost Toshiba PDA you can nearly buy 2 audiovox maestros at $209 each after rebate.
To me personally compactflash is important. While I wouldnt use it for too long on maestro because of battery concerns, if the need arises, I can use it. Also SD cards max out at 128mb and cost as much as 256mb compactflash cards. so that adds in to the cost factor.
So, I too think that Maestro is a better deal and it was not completely unreasonable to point this out here. This is not a FOR-SALE thread, so unless people take things off-topic(like many of your self-righteous members) I think its a very good idea to mention that a person could save money buying something that is very similar and yet cheaper.
Adios >>


It doesn't matter what YOU think is a good deal or not. YOU are not everyone. Not everyone NEEDS CompactFlash. This was a thread about the e310 and a good deal with a cost savings of $35 on the price of a brand new unit.

If someone wants a Maestro, that's fine. There are about three threads or so detailing how you can get a deal on one. But this is a seperate product aimed at a different audience and there is no need to bring up the Maestro and try to shove it down someone's throat. If someone wanted a Maestro, they'd go to the other threads. But this is a brand new unit and of course you are going to pay more.

If someone wants to buy an ultra-thin notebook, you don't point them to a 7-lb desktop replacement

You don't come into a hot deal thread on a Northwood and they say "Well hey, you can get an Athlon XP for $100 cheaper." That's besides the point and it is THREAD CRAPPING plain and simple.

Read the forum rules:


<< No thread crapping. If the subject matter of a deal does not interest you, do not post negative comments about it, or about other members, in the thread. >>


msn could care less about the e310 and he just crapped on the thread with his Maestro promotions

 

[chjode]

Whee!

 

[msn]

<< do not post negative comments about it, or about other members, in the thread. >>



Gee, what part of that did you not get?



<< msn could care less about the e310 and he just crapped on the thread with his Maestro promotions >>



I'm not promoting the Maestro - I had it in my hands all over, oh, 2 minutes before I decided to hand it off to someone I know who would appreciate it - a Palm user. He didn't seem to have any complaints.

And it is you who said I was crapping on the thread - perhaps a reality check is in order? I mean, comparing an "ulta light" notebook (at 2 pounds) and a seven pounder to a 41 gram difference between two PDA's? That's just pathetic.

And for saying this is telling people "mainframe" versus "desktop" (Maxint) - there are many great reasons you should stop and think, if you have ever laid eyes on a mainframe, you will know that these two things are not even in the same class of product. Both compute, but the comparison is as between a sportscar and a twenty ton earthmover.

All I ever said was it's not for everyone, and some people here seem to think that is treason! Do you really think every person in the world wants - or better yet, needs - this product, thinner or not? Get real, please.

 

[vladgur]

<< It doesn't matter what YOU think is a good deal or not. YOU are not everyone >>


Here is where youre wrong, buddy. It matters what I think because I am part of this community and this is a community board. I stated my opinion just like the originator of this thread stated his/her opinion when calling this a good deal(which it probably is for some and not -- for others)



<< Not everyone NEEDS CompactFlash. >>



I think youre wrong here too. Lets assume you dont need to run any CF-compatible devices like network cards, wireless cards, tv-out modules, gps modules, etc, etc. I would guess that people who buy a pocketpc, buy not only for its organizer qualities(thats where palm often excells in its simplicity) but for its multimedia capabilities as well. Try storing an mp3 or an image on whats leftover from the 32mb RAM. So you got to buy external memory and SD memory is more than 2x expensive than compactflash. The cheapest 128mb SD memory is $82, the cheapest 128MB CF memory is $38. Also SD only goes up to 128mb , while CF goes up to 512MB right now and 1GB in near future.



<< This was a thread about the e310 and a good deal with a cost savings of $35 on the price of a brand new unit.

If someone wants a Maestro, that's fine. There are about three threads or so detailing how you can get a deal on one. But this is a seperate product aimed at a different audience and there is no need to bring up the Maestro and try to shove it down someone's throat. If someone wanted a Maestro, they'd go to the other threads. But this is a brand new unit and of course you are going to pay more. >>


I dont think e310 is that much different from Maestro to warrant a $150 price difference or 41% difference for something that 0.3in thinner and doesnt have a CF. Msn pointed this out. Like he said price/performance ratio is not there




<< If someone wants to buy an ultra-thin notebook, you don't point them to a 7-lb desktop replacement >>



You have a twisted sense of analogies. You are comparing apples and oranges here. ultrathin notebook vs 7-lb desktop replacement and toshiba pocket pc vs toshiba pocketpc that is 0.3 in thinner.




<< You don't come into a hot deal thread on a Northwood and they say "Well hey, you can get an Athlon XP for $100 cheaper." That's besides the point and it is THREAD CRAPPING plain and simple.
Read the forum rules:


<< No thread crapping. If the subject matter of a deal does not interest you, do not post negative comments about it, or about other members, in the thread. >>


msn could care less about the e310 and he just crapped on the thread with his Maestro promotions >>



I beg to differ: MSN did not post negative comments about e310. He simply stated that people can save money buy buing something that is a little bit different. Your analogy about Northwood again doesnt really apply. People who buy cpus most likely have already invested in a motherboard or picked a motherboard that they would like. This means that they can only buy cpus of one kind. If Northwood motherboards would take XP and if in fact XP's price/performance ratio was better than that of Northwood(which it may not be), I am sure people would save themselves $100 and buy XP. In this case price/performance ration of Maestro vs e310 is MUCH MUCH better and buying Maestro over e310 does not forfeit any investment in pocketpc that people might have made in relation to e310. After all Maestro has all the features of e310 and then some but not vice versa.

Again, there are some people who will want to buy e310 for some reasons, then there are people who would like to get pda for nearly half of price of e310. I think we should have them both informed.

Especially if e310 is not neccessarily all that as some here claim : BrightHand Disscussion e310 vs Maestro comparison

 

[NFS4]

<< Here is where youre wrong, buddy. It matters what I think because I am part of this community and this is a community board. I stated my opinion just like the originator of this thread stated his/her opinion when calling this a good deal(which it probably is for some and not -- for others) >>


When you base things on just what YOU want you are not thinking for the whole community. Just b/c YOU don't want something doesn't mean that someone else doesn't.


<< think youre wrong here too. Lets assume you dont need to run any CF-compatible devices like network cards, wireless cards, tv-out modules, gps modules, etc, etc. I would guess that people who buy a pocketpc, buy not only for its organizer qualities(thats where palm often excells in its simplicity) but for its multimedia capabilities as well. Try storing an mp3 or an image on whats leftover from the 32mb RAM. So you got to buy external memory and SD memory is more than 2x expensive than compactflash. The cheapest 128mb SD memory is $82, the cheapest 128MB CF memory is $38. Also SD only goes up to 128mb , while CF goes up to 512MB right now and 1GB in near future. >>


Give me a break. People who are buying in e310 are most likely Palm converts. Hence ONLY the SD/MMC slot. The thinness and weight are what will attract people to the device. You CAN NOT make a device that small and use CF Type-I or II. People said the same crap about CF when it came out in comparison to PC Cards (price and availability). Now look at what you are doing


<< I dont think e310 is that much different from Maestro to warrant a $150 price difference or 41% difference for something that 0.3in thinner and doesnt have a CF. Msn pointed this out. Like he said price/performance ratio is not there >>


You're not thinking in relative terms. In things as small as a PocketPC, .3 inches is a BIG difference. Remember when the Visor Edge first came out?? There was a HUGE price premium, but people wanted the small size.


<< You have a twisted sense of analogies. You are comparing apples and oranges here. ultrathin notebook vs 7-lb desktop replacement and toshiba pocket pc vs toshiba pocketpc that is 0.3 in thinner. >>


Again, you are NOT thinking in RELATIVE terms.

weight/thickness

Maestro .7 inches/ 6.4 ounces
e310 .4 inches / 4.9 ounces

% difference

thickness 45% difference
weight 24% difference

Average out 45 and 25 and you get an overall 35% reduction in weight/thickness.


<< I beg to differ: MSN did not post negative comments about e310. He simply stated that people can save money buy buing something that is a little bit different. Your analogy about Northwood again doesnt really apply. People who buy cpus most likely have already invested in a motherboard or picked a motherboard that they would like. This means that they can only buy cpus of one kind. If Northwood motherboards would take XP and if in fact XP's price/performance ratio was better than that of Northwood(which it may not be), I am sure people would save themselves $100 and buy XP. In this case price/performance ration of Maestro vs e310 is MUCH MUCH better and buying Maestro over e310 does not forfeit any investment in pocketpc that people might have made in relation to e310. After all Maestro has all the features of e310 and then some but not vice versa. >>


If someone has a hot deal on a Northwood processor, chances are that they will go into that thread if they are in the market for one and already have a motherboard. I have an Athlon processor and a KT266A motherboard. I DON'T check out Northwood deals. So WHY would you thread crap in a Northwood thread with XP raving??

Now if someone said "I'm in the market for a new processor." That would be grounds for debating Athlon XP vs Northwood. But if someone has posted a hot deal on just a Northwood processor, it makes NO SENSE to come in and thread crap by throwing around the Athlon XP.

 

[BigJ]

Damn, this thread went to crap real fast. Well anyway, here's a fixed link for people who want to buy the product:
Ecost e310

and MSN, as for your comment about ur posts bumping this thread to the top, if it really isn't such a hot deal, this thread will slowly die away, as all other hot deals have. There's really no need for everyone in this thread to bite each other's heads off. I'd just like to say, the voice of one is not the voice of all (ie saying "this deal sucks" from a handful of people does not warrant thread crapping when there are many many people in these forums ), and some people will most likely find this as a hot deal.

thanks for posting the deal nickel

 

[w3b]

good deal for those who need similar portability of the m5xx

smaller pda means less bulky in the pockets or wherever you might put the darn thing
I'm still sticking to my Vx though.. dont use it as much nowadays.. and there are so many clearance on its accessories going on... very economical in my book...

 

[msn]

<< and MSN, as for your comment about ur posts bumping this thread to the top, if it really isn't such a hot deal, this thread will slowly die away, as all other hot deals have. There's really no need for everyone in this thread to bite each other's heads off. I'd just like to say, the voice of one is not the voice of all (ie saying "this deal sucks" from a handful of people does not warrant thread crapping when there are many many people in these forums ), and some people will most likely find this as a hot deal. >>



Carefully read this thread - I did not post that I was bumping this thread, I was responding to someone who apparently had no interest in the thread other than inviting me off of it.

Secondly, I did not say, "this deal sucks" either directly or indirectly, I simply pointed out that the same functionality exists for less money. If you don't get the concept, please read some of the posts on almost any topic on this board. There is a difference between form and function.

I am not being hostile, but I do not accept someone else putting words (or worse, saying what are "my thoughts") in my mouth.