3770k + 1080TI to play at 3440x1440. How much would CPU limit performance?

[simas]

I was in the process or preparing to order monitor and video cards below for the new Ryzen based build (I already have Ryzen 1700 and nothing else)

AOC - Agon AG352UCG WQHD (3440x1440)
EVGA 1080 TI 11G-P4-6393-KR

and remembered that I have some old hardware laying around and not used ( 3770k + 32 GB RAM over Asus P8H77-M CSM motherboard). I run it for a year or so for server at home, never overclocked and turned it off afterwards.

To decide between finishing Ryzen build (370 MB + RAM ) vs reusing IB hardware - how much would 3770k limit the play with 1080 TI @3440x1440?

The only games I would play would be total war Warhammer and Witcher 3

Thank you

 

[Carfax83]

Both of those games don't scale particularly well across multiple cores. Witcher 3 uses a quad core with HT fairly well, but cannot scale above that. Same thing with TWW from the benches that I've seen. So in light of that, it's kind of hard to say. It will depend on how high you can overclock either CPU. With Ryzen, you will likely get 4ghz. With the 3770K, it should be 4.4 to 4.6ghz depending if you're on air. So with the Intel CPU, you will probably have higher overall single thread performance which would help more in these games.

That said, I would still pick the Ryzen setup personally as it's the more modern platform of the two. And at 3440x1440, CPU performance shouldn't be a dominating factor in these two games.

 

[happy medium]

A 3770k with a good overclock will not limit that system at high-resolution. Save your money and use the older hardware.

 

[AtenRa]

I was in the process or preparing to order monitor and video cards below for the new Ryzen based build (I already have Ryzen 1700 and nothing else)

AOC - Agon AG352UCG WQHD (3440x1440)
EVGA 1080 TI 11G-P4-6393-KR

and remembered that I have some old hardware laying around and not used ( 3770k + 32 GB RAM over Asus P8H77-M CSM motherboard). I run it for a year or so for server at home, never overclocked and turned it off afterwards.

To decide between finishing Ryzen build (370 MB + RAM ) vs reusing IB hardware - how much would 3770k limit the play with 1080 TI @3440x1440?

The only games I would play would be total war Warhammer and Witcher 3

Thank you

Sell everything and get the Core i7 8700k

 

[casiofx]

If it’s 4K 3770k is probably enough, but for wide qhd better processor is probably better, only if you want to go for more than 60fps?

 

[Headfoot]

I very much doubt Witcher 3 and TWW will be the only 2 games you will ever play on that build. With that in mind I'd sell the 3770k as a whole unit (you can get more for it that way) and finish out the Ryzen build. If you do end up selling that 3770k server as a whole unit let me know I might know someone in the market to buy something like that used

 

[SirCanealot]

I have a 3770k at 4.4-4.6ghz. If you're at 60hz, it will not limit or bottleneck performance in 99% of games. I think the only reason I'd need to upgrade CPU in the next few years is if I go above 60hz.

Even if I don't run vsync, I'm still GPU bound in most games

Then again, I usually limit to 60hz unless I'm playing games like Doom, so I can't speak for running at 144fps or anything.

If I was that set on upgrading, I think I'd try delidding first, but I really don't know if I can CBA..

 

[simas]

Thank you guys, the monitor I intend to by is set for 100hz native refresh rate so my hope is to play at 3440x1440 @100hz

 

[TechyGeek]

that's a lot of Ghz

 

[GoodRevrnd]

I'm on a 4770k and 1080Ti on 2560x1440 and as I recall Witcher 3 generally hovers around 110 fps with all my graphics mods installed.

 

[simas]

Thank you all for your help - I ended up buying 1080TI and Gsync compatible monitor and keeping 3770k based system. have not overclocked it yet , will do later if needed.

 

[hawtdawg]

If you delid and OC the 3770K, and your ram is fast, the 3770K is not much of a bottleneck in most cases.

 

[simas]

how complicated is that? I have not done it before

 

[Headfoot]

Enjoy the system man! Delidding is definitely fairly involved, there are guides but it involves taking a razor blade to the integrated heat spreader on your CPU and then pressing your cooler straight onto the silicon die. It makes a big difference in temperatures and is good for 100-200 Mhz. I'd say its not worth it unless you're a very serious overclocker

 

[2is]

Enjoy the system man! Delidding is definitely fairly involved, there are guides but it involves taking a razor blade to the integrated heat spreader on your CPU and then pressing your cooler straight onto the silicon die. It makes a big difference in temperatures and is good for 100-200 Mhz. I'd say its not worth it unless you're a very serious overclocker

Most of the delidding I see doesn't involve running bare die, but instead, reducing the gap between IHS and die in addition to using a better thermal compound (liquid metal is quite popular for the delidders) and then re-lidding the processor.

As an owner of a 3770k though, I agree it's not worth it... Yet... Once I've made the decision that it's time to move to a shiny new platform though, I will attempt it and see if I can get lucky enough to achieve results that can delay my upgrade for another generation.

If I break something or don't get the results I want, no big deal. The CPU itself will have already lost most of it's value, and I was already planning to buy something new. I'd just be careful not to mess up my board since good boards for older systems seem to hold their value fairly well.

Also, as an owner of not only a 3770k but a 1080Ti (running @ 1440p) I will say that you should absolutely OC your CPU even if you're not de-lidding. I have mine at 4.2GHz and in games like BF1 I only use about 70% GPU utilization maxed out.

 

[eek2121]

You are fine on the 3770k for a few more years, regardless of what naysayers may claim. My 2600k did great at 1440p gaming and downscaled 4k gaming, especially when overclocked. I would hold out until April or May of next year when the Ryzen refresh rolls out and see what the situation looks like then.

 

[guskline]

The 3770k was, and still is a stout cpu, capable of playing your games. If you have a decent cpu cooler, overclocking to@ 4.2 should be done. The “k” designation almost begs to be overclocked.

The GTX 1080 TI is truly a beast. Mine runs my 5960x rig with my Acer ET430k monitor ( 42.5” 4k 60hz monitor) on ultra settings for the new Forza 7 racing game extremely well.

At 3440x1440, your 3770k/GTX 1080TI combo should be fine.

 

[TechyGeek]

Siliconlottery.com does delid for fifty bucks

 

[simas]

thank you for all who contributed and helped. I know I need to rebuild my home server so I will complete Ryzen 1700 build, send 3770k for delid and then decide which one is server running Windows 2016 and which one is gaming PC running Windows 10

Few questions
1) Default AMD cooler - good/bad/worth 'upgrading' is all I want from Ryzen is 3.8 Ghz overclock?
2) Default intel cooler my 3770k came with - same question, worth upgrading for overclock after delid?
3) Ryzen 1700k at 3.8 vs 3770k @say 4.5 - equivalent for gaming?


Thank you