$39.99 K6-2+ 450 or $59.99 K6-3 450 ?

[aberant]

Given that the k6-2 has a higher max. temp rating and so 'is reported to overclock better' . Also i'm poor sorry to bore u all with my troubles !

 

[deerslayer]

Are you set on a K6? A 1600+ or a Duron can be had pretty cheap at newegg.

I don't know much about the K6-2's or K6-3's, sorry

 

[Marrkks]

I'll have to second what LyNx01 said, are you sure you want to spend more money on a super7(k6-x) system?

if you are set on one of these 2 choices I would definatly go with the k6-2+. but you must make sure your motherboard can use a k6+ cpu. not all S7 mobos can. the k6-2+ cpu has 128k onboard L2 cache, the original k6-2 had none, the k6-3 and k6-3+ both have 256k L2. and yes the k6+ will oc much better, prolly 550mhz easy. my k6-3+ runs 600mhz 24-7 unless the room temp gets up to 85-90deg. then I just bump it down to 550.




I suppose I could sell you one of my ecs k7s5a mb, 1.0 duron, and a hs/fan for about $75 +shipping.

 

[Assimilator1]

What he said

Aberant ,how come your buying from the states?

 

[soni]

If you can use a K6-2 350, I will send you one

Otherwise, why keep running with socket 7 ??

 

[RaySun2Be]

Otherwise, why keep running with socket 7 ??

Here's a CLUE:

Also i'm poor

It could be that he has all the equipment needed for the K6, and only needs to buy the CPU. If he goes with another choice, then he may have to buy not only the CPU, but the MB, RAM, case & P/S, etc.

Not all of us have the extra $$ to constantly upgrade. I'm running a few PII's for the same reason. I have them, but I don't have extra $$ for any upgrades.

I'm sure Aberant, just like me, would LOVE to upgrade to an XP1800 or better, but has to live within (or near) his means.

Aberant, if I knew the answer to your original question, I would answer.

 

[Rastus]

The K6-2+ has an extra level of on-die cache and is a faster chip than the K6-3. It also overclocks better because it runs cooler.

 

[MoFunk]

ygpm

 

[aberant]

thanks for the replies - lets see if i can address each one.

LyNx01 - Current bare minimum price for a new mobo/duron is 75 + postage here - that's a lot more than the chip alone would cost. To give you an idea what i'm on now its a hand-me-down tyan s1598 w/ 2mb cache. I've got a Pentium 166 in there at the moment - not even MMX :Q It runs quite fast for me, i just want to be able to run decent progs / watch vids etc hence this thread.

Marrkks - I'm definate that this mobo supports both chips - there are multiple compatability lists i've checked, and also i've done my research on the chip, so it was just a question of 128k or 256k cache - there seems to be different opinions on the performance benefit Thanx for your offer of kit - thats very kind of you. Still out of my budget tho

Assimilator1 - Cos this company is the only one i've found that has em in stock and will send it un-insured

Soni - Thanks a lot matey, MoFunk beat you to the punch ! But as i shall say to him also, though the offer is very much appreciated, i don't feel right about taking pieces of kit when i'm not that active a member anymore. Nonetheless its a kind gesture

RaySun2Be - Nail on the head

Rastus - This is true, however there is a K6-3+ which is identical to the K6-2+ except it has 256K cache, which will overclock equally as well

MoFunk - YAGPM

 

[deerslayer]

LyNx01 - Current bare minimum price for a new mobo/duron is 75 + postage here - that's a lot more than the chip alone would cost. To give you an idea what i'm on now its a hand-me-down tyan s1598 w/ 2mb cache. I've got a Pentium 166 in there at the moment - not even MMX It runs quite fast for me, i just want to be able to run decent progs / watch vids etc hence this thread.

I assumed you needed a mobo too. Sorry about the confusion.

 

[ColinP]

Think I've got a K6-2-350 you can have.....

Let me know..

Usual price - a pint of Stella if I ever make it to a UK meet up !!



Col

 

[aberant]

Lol @ Col - the stella is a given ! That's ok about the chip tho thanks matey, don't wanna scam stuff when i can afford to buy my own BTW k6-2+ it is and hey col - when we gonna meet ????

 

[BurntKooshie]

/me waves again

Okay, just to double check: $40 USD for a 450Mhz K6-2+, or $60 USD for a 450Mhz K6-III, right?

Given that....go with the K6-2+, if your board will support it. At like frequencies (and their correct voltages), the K6-2+ consumes just over half the amount of power..... (~16 watts max at 450 for the K6-2+ v. ~30 watts max at 450 for the K6-III)

Given your budget, and the liklihood of a better overclock from the K6-2+, do like they said above -- get a K6-2+

EDIT -- BTW, the K6-2+ is NOT inherently faster than the K6-III (at the same clock speeds) for most tasks. The K6-2+ just has a few more instructions that are hardly used nowadays anyway (extended 3dNow). Infact, the K6-2+ has half the L2 cache.....

 

[Assimilator1]

*me waves at BK*
Wow! ,a rare sighting of BK

 

[danzigrules]

Originally posted by: aberant
thanks for the replies - lets see if i can address each one.


Soni - Thanks a lot matey, MoFunk beat you to the punch ! But as i shall say to him also, though the offer is very much appreciated, i don't feel right about taking pieces of kit when i'm not that active a member anymore. Nonetheless its a kind gesture

Why not just give them say 5-10 bucks fer the cpu therefore not really "taking pieces of kit"






<edit> or maybe I read the whole thing wrong

 

[zeruty]

I have one of those mobo's running a k6-2 500mhz right now

works perfectly fine

only problem is acpi doesnt work right, therefore it doesnt do soft power-off's

 

[aberant]

oh dear - my bad. Title should have been K6-2+ or K6-3+ - sorry bout that. Thanks to all who replied, esp. BK since he's my old good bud that i never see anymore ! Hey danzig - i think u read it right, and i can see ur point, but its still the same in my head, guess i'm just a bizarre kinda guy Utmost concern is not to offend here tho - don't want to seem like i'm an ungrateful wretch

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Rastus
The K6-2+ has an extra level of on-die cache and is a faster chip than the K6-3. It also overclocks better because it runs cooler.

I think both have 2 levels of cache. The K6-2+ just has less than the K6-3. It also uses a .18 micron process instead of .25.

If this is between the + procs - K6-2+ and K6-3+ - and not a K6-2+ and original K6-3, then the contest is simpler. The K6-3+ is definitely better.
What the procs look like:
K6-2 - .25 micron, 64KB L1 cache, L2 cache on motherboard, 3DNow and MMX
K6-3 - .25 micron, 64KB L1 cache, 256KB L2 cache (full speed), 3DNow and MMX
K6-2+ - .18 micron, 64KB L1 cache, 128KB L2 cache (full speed), L3 cache on motherboard, 3DNow Enhanced and MMX
K6-3+ - .18 micron, 64KB L1 cache, 256KB L2 cache (full speed), L3 cache on motherboard, 3DNow Enhanced and MMX

I don't know how the original and + procs compare to each other, but in each category, the 3's are better than the 2's. And as has been said, the K6-x+ procs do overclock well, usually to 550 or even 600MHz. Just be sure that your motherboard supports the + processors.

 

[aberant]

but will there be enough of a performance difference to justify the 20 extra dollars ? also the 3+ that they have on sale is 'reported to be less overclockable' cos of its lower temp rating. Damn this complication

 

[BurntKooshie]

Jeff7 is a smart one He put it in list form instead of doing the stupid thing (like I was doing) and trying to explain it in a paragraph

Aberant -- get the K6-2+

 

[narzy]

if you were boring us we would be sleZzZzZzZz

 

[aberant]

lol sorry bout that narzy go neck some ProPlus ! well the BK has spoken, so i'll put this to bed now thanks a lot mateys ! will let u know when it turns up