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aigomorla

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Straight from tweeter...


Please oh pretty please bring back SLI... better yet, give us something magical like how voodoo was, and PLEASE make it non mineable.

However i think its a troll, but April 1st passed a while back ago...

Well here's crossing my fingers.
 

Magic Carpet

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3dfx did have a card with external power (Voodoo Volt!) but I don't think it got released.
The unreleased Voodoo 5 6000 128MB came with its own power supply (aka Voodoo volts). I've seen a number of different mods of the original V5 6K. It's got to be some mod of that. Maybe they re-worked the interface and now it's PCI-E. Back in February one modification was PCI and that's how it looked.




Voodoo 5 6000[edit]
The Voodoo 5 6000 is the unreleased high-end product in the Voodoo5 line. It was to use four 166 MHz VSA-100 processors, each with its own 32 MB of 166 MHz SDRAM, resulting in the first 128 MB graphics card (consisting of sixteen 8 MB chips). Approximately 1000+ test cards were produced. Because the card used more power than the AGP specification allowed for, a special power supply called Voodoo Volts had to be included with it. This would have been an external device that would connect to an AC outlet. Most of the prototype cards utilized a standard internal power supply molex power connector.

With regards to performance, little was known until enthusiasts were able to get pre-release hardware and run tests on it. The results showed that the Voodoo 5 6000 outperformed the GeForce 2 Ultra and Radeon 7500, which were the fastest iterations of the GeForce 2 and Radeon R100 lines, respectively. (It was rumored that GeForce 2 Ultra was intended to prevent 3dfx taking the lead with their Voodoo 5 6000.) In some cases, the 6000 was shown to compete well with the next-generation GeForce 3.[7]

Unfortunately, the production cost of the Voodoo5 6000 would have likely hampered its competitiveness from a profitability standpoint. Compared to the single-chip GeForce and Radeon cards, a Voodoo5 6000 is burdened with much redundancy and a complicated board. It was projected to have a US$600 price tag, considerably higher than competing parts. Despite its high price point, the Voodoo5 6000 would not have offered next-generation DirectX 8.0 vertex and pixel shaders that would be found in the GeForce 3 (which was intended by Nvidia to replace the short-lived GeForce 2 Ultra as its flagship product) and Radeon 8500, nor even DirectX 7 features such as hardware transform and lighting acceleration for vertices. The precarious financial situation of 3dfx was another factor contributing to the 6000's demise.

There were five revisions of the Voodoo 5 6000: (the numbers after the model state the build week: 10 for week 10, 00 for year 2000).

Intel Revision 1 (model 1000-1900)[edit]
This was an early alpha of the card primarily used for photos and testing purposes. These cards generally had a short life expectancy, and were largely incompatible with various motherboards at the time. They also typically could not achieve speeds above 143 MHz without suffering from VSA-100 "death". This revision used an Intel PCI bridge chip, was equipped with 128 MB of 5.4ns SDRAM and used a proprietary external 3dfx power supply. Initial models had the chips mounted in the arrangement seen in the photograph, but this required a PCB with eight circuitry layers (most GeForce 2 cards were four-layer, while the Voodoo 5 5500 was six-layer) and would have been unreasonably expensive. All of the later revisions had the four chips mounted in a row.

HiNT Revision 2 (model 2000-2900)[edit]
This version dropped the Intel PCI bridge chip in favor of a HiNT bridge chip. These cards were able to be powered by either the internal system PSU or by a proprietary 3dfx external power supply, a feature seen in all subsequent prototype revisions. The clock speed varied from card to card, generally either 166 or 183 MHz. The VSA-100 chips used still did not have a long life expectancy, and may have had problems running anti-aliasing. This revision had 128 MB of 5.0ns SDRAM.

HiNT Revision 3 (model 3000-3500)[edit]
Cards from this revision varied in stability from dead to fully functional. A lot of problems had been fixed in this revision, but it still had VSA-100 thermal death problems above 183 MHz. These cards either had 166 or 183 MHz VSA-100 GPUs.

HiNT Revision 4 (3600-3700)[edit]
3dfx decided on 166 MHz due to issues with the 6000 running properly at 183 MHz due to a design flaw with the PCB. Most of the problems seen in earlier revisions were fixed, although there may have been glitches while in anti-aliasing mode on some cards. Most of the known cards are revision A from week 37, 2000.

HiNT Revision 5 (model 3900)[edit]
Little is known about this series except that this is the final revision. It was meant to be the retail unit, but shortly after the run of 10 were produced, the 6000 series was cancelled.
 

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Magic Carpet

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Don't get your hopes high, this is still a very slow card.










Well, it can do the 8x FSAA though. Geforce 2 Ultra can't

Doom 3 isn't really playable on the Voodoo 5 6000 because its lack of T&L support (remember that it's a 5 years old card), the best that we can do with all options set to the minimum is something like 5-10fps in 640x480 and thus is unplayable. Because we are a bit vicious, we tried to set the maximal quality to see what we could get, at this point we had around 0.5fps
Source.

I'd have loved to see a performance per watt metric though.
 
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aigomorla

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lolol... if i remember correctly my 4870X2 was considered a very long card, only to be put to shame by a voodoo5.

This was the 4870X2, and it even had a PLX chip on it, so your could bridge the two processors together and get crossfire working in full glory on a single card, or go quadfire, which btw i did, and never went back to it again from how bad it scaled @ the power it drew.

 

Magic Carpet

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Yeah, 3dfx V5 6K was king size in everything, size, power and hype. Rampage was better but 3dfx went bankrupt and then swallowed by NVidia.

NB. I toyed with an 4870X2 and quickly got rid of it, because it was... LOUD. You prolly put it under water and never noticed it though
 

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I'm glad some other people remember how obnoxiously loud PCs were for awhile there. It almost seemed like having loud fans was something to brag about they were so bad. I remember I had a "Tornado" HSF for one of my Athlon rigs that marked the high water mark for noise. I don't miss that, but I had a much higher tolerance for noise back then. I wanted cheap and fast, if it was earsplitting so be it.
 

PingSpike

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I honestly have no idea what this means. Smart phones, smart TVs and sound systems? I can't think of much to do there but slap their old brand on some existing products. Are we sure they aren't just going to brand some Nvidia/AMD cards? Because honestly that seems most likely.
 

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It's probably just BS hype in the end. According to Toms hardware the company doesn't even show up?

Janseen....Makes drugs
Jansen....Makes pipes

???
 

Hitman928

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Nvidia bought everything of value from the company 20 years ago and there hasn't been any form of the company in existence since that time. If there is any truth at all in this, most likely it's that someone waited for the trademark to expire and is using that opportunity to grab the name and create a viral marketing campaign to sell a bunch of already existing products but re-branded under the 3dfx name. That or nostalgia items from a time long ago.
 
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Nvidia bought everything of value from the company 20 years ago and there hasn't been any form of the company in existence since that time. If there is any truth at all in this, most likely it's that someone waited for the trademark to expire and is using that opportunity to grab the name and create a viral marketing campaign to sell a bunch of already existing products but re-branded under the 3dfx name. That or nostalgia items from a time long ago.

This
 

CP5670

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I'm glad some other people remember how obnoxiously loud PCs were for awhile there. It almost seemed like having loud fans was something to brag about they were so bad. I remember I had a "Tornado" HSF for one of my Athlon rigs that marked the high water mark for noise. I don't miss that, but I had a much higher tolerance for noise back then. I wanted cheap and fast, if it was earsplitting so be it.

I had the exact same thing. As a teenager, that fan noise was good for the same reason a loud sports car is good. Then I built a much quieter machine a few years later (with an old Panaflo fan) and was happy to have silence, although the 6800GT in it did get noisy in games.
 
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aigomorla

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It's probably just BS hype in the end. According to Toms hardware the company doesn't even show up?

Janseen....Makes drugs
Jansen....Makes pipes

???

seems too much of a pun on Jensun Huang, and we know who he is.
 
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As I’ve said I really want a my least a third choice in graphics. I really do and have wanted that choice since 2012 at minimum.
Doesn’t seem like a resurrected 3Dfx is going to be that third choice. Looking more & more like a branding thing.
Samsung 8k super ultra mega resolution powered by 3Dfx (which is just a regular or slightly better stock chip)
This unbranded android phone has 3Dfx approved graphics
Nvidia 3080 ti with 3Dfx approved over clock.
and so on.

Hopefully I am wrong. I will happily admit to being wrong if shown otherwise in the future.
 
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