3rd e-mail here! UPDATE! I sold a computer to this guy on ebay. i sent him my computer, USPS damages it, he doesnt

[chuckywang]

He should never have assumed you would agree to his demands. However, you should have been more prompt in replying his emails.

 

[ajtyeh]

Originally posted by: chuckywang
He should never have assumed you would agree to his demands. However, you should have been more prompt in replying his emails.

he send the first one at 12:14 am....

so he shouldnt expect me to see it by the noon time of tomorrow.

and when i woke up at noon today. i already got the 2nd e-mail from him at 10 am that he already sent it.

prompt....
i doubt it
thats just unreasonable

 

[MrChad]

Just to summarize here:

The OP sold a computer on eBay containing well over a thousand dollars worth of illegal software. He packaged it inadequately, shipped it via USPS without insurance, and in the process it was damaged.

The buyer initially indicated that the transaction was fine and left positive feedback for the OP. He later came back and stated that he wanted a full refund, then proceeded to ship back the computer with his own additional RAM accidentally installed before the details of a refund or compromise could be arranged.

Personally, I think both you and the buyer are idiots. You shouldn't be selling computers with illegal software and you should be ponying up the paltry insurance fee to cover your own ass. He shouldn't leave positive feedback then come back and say you screwed him over, and he shouldn't be shipping anything back before he's worked out a deal with you.

My advice is:
1. Take the computer back.
2. Take out his RAM and ship it back.
3. Refund him the cost of the computer plus your initial shipping costs minus the cost to ship back the RAM.
4. Stop selling things on eBay.

 

[iRONic]

Originally posted by: ajtyeh

Originally posted by: saymyname
You'll have to make a moral decision on whether you're going to keep the computer or not (are you moving soon?), but I would under no circumstances give him any money back.

ROFLLLLLLLL

ROFLLLL
ROFLLL
ROFLL
ROFLL
ROFLLLR
ROFLl
my family has been in this residence for 16 years.
and we are moving in 1 month
-
AHAHHAA

Is your phone number xxx-xxx-xxxx?

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iRONic,

Stop posting personal information about ajtyeh and otherwise being an ass, or stop posting here forever. If you cannot abide by the first option, we will enforce the second one.

AnandTech Moderator

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: ajtyeh

Originally posted by: chuckywang
He should never have assumed you would agree to his demands. However, you should have been more prompt in replying his emails.

he send the first one at 12:14 am....

so he shouldnt expect me to see it by the noon time of tomorrow.

and when i woke up at noon today. i already got the 2nd e-mail from him at 10 am that he already sent it.

prompt....
i doubt it
thats just unreasonable

But you said you got the 2nd email and then went to lunch with your gf, and then he sent a third email.

 

[ajtyeh]

Originally posted by: iRONic

Originally posted by: ajtyeh

Originally posted by: saymyname
You'll have to make a moral decision on whether you're going to keep the computer or not (are you moving soon?), but I would under no circumstances give him any money back.

ROFLLLLLLLL

ROFLLLL
ROFLLL
ROFLL
ROFLL
ROFLLLR
ROFLl
my family has been in this residence for 16 years.
and we are moving in 1 month
-
AHAHHAA

Is your phone number xxx-xxx-xxxx?

yeah you better edit that before you get banned.... asap

 

[Bryophyte]

Microsoft isn't too happy with software pirates. I had some pity for you until I saw that you were giving him illegal software. Now I think someone should send the buyer a link to this thread so we can see what he has to say about this all.

 

[iRONic]

Originally posted by: ajtyeh

Originally posted by: iRONic

Originally posted by: ajtyeh

Originally posted by: saymyname
You'll have to make a moral decision on whether you're going to keep the computer or not (are you moving soon?), but I would under no circumstances give him any money back.

ROFLLLLLLLL

ROFLLLL
ROFLLL
ROFLL
ROFLL
ROFLLLR
ROFLl
my family has been in this residence for 16 years.
and we are moving in 1 month
-
AHAHHAA

Is your phone number xxx-xxx-xxxx?

yeah you better edit that before you get banned.... asap

It's on your auctions...

 

[ajtyeh]

Originally posted by: iRONic

Originally posted by: ajtyeh

Originally posted by: iRONic

Originally posted by: ajtyeh

Originally posted by: saymyname
You'll have to make a moral decision on whether you're going to keep the computer or not (are you moving soon?), but I would under no circumstances give him any money back.

ROFLLLLLLLL

ROFLLLL
ROFLLL
ROFLL
ROFLL
ROFLLLR
ROFLl
my family has been in this residence for 16 years.
and we are moving in 1 month
-
AHAHHAA

Is your phone number xxx-xxx-xxxx?

yeah you better edit that before you get banned.... asap

It's on his auctions...

yeah they find out fine,
but i never posted it in anandtech forums,
so it doesnt belong there

 

[Bryophyte]

Originally posted by: ajtyeh

Originally posted by: iRONic

Originally posted by: ajtyeh

Originally posted by: saymyname
You'll have to make a moral decision on whether you're going to keep the computer or not (are you moving soon?), but I would under no circumstances give him any money back.

ROFLLLLLLLL

ROFLLLL
ROFLLL
ROFLL
ROFLL
ROFLLLR
ROFLl
my family has been in this residence for 16 years.
and we are moving in 1 month
-
AHAHHAA

Is your phone number xxx-xxx-xxxx?

yeah you better edit that before you get banned.... asap

You didn't complain when that link was posted.

 

[TGS]

Originally posted by: ajtyeh
I sold a computer to this guy on ebay. i have 100% feedback, over 150 rating.. i sent him my computer, USPS damages it, he doesnt pay for insurance, which is optional

the damage was minimal. we talked it out, he said it was fine. he then left positive feedback for me, and i did the same to him.
1 week later i get an e-mail from him

he says he wants a refund now. and he wants me to pay for the shipping back to me. like give him shipping labels... is this unfair... i sold him a computer, it works, and now hes just hassling me.

and i just dont want to deal with him... what should i do?


UPDATE - UPDATE - UPDATE - UPDATE - UPDATE - UPDATE -
yeah so i never responded to the e-mail i recieved at like 12 am last night. so i woke up this morning and got another e-mail beofre i got a chance to reply. and i paste...


Hey-

The computer was packed up today and sent back to you. I forgot to take out the additional RAM that I put in, so I will need two sticks back or re-imbursement for them. I went to the Egg place you recommended for pricing. I sent the computer the same way you did (USPS), but with much better packing. When you add to $638 I paid you the cost of two sticks of RAM, the new packaging materials, not to mention all the time I have spent on this, well- it was an expensive waste of time for me. Monetetarily, I will need to cost of the computer and shipping I paid- plus my shipping costs refunded. I can invoice you via Pay Pal, or you can just send me a payment via Pay Pal. This will need to happen soon, however. As noted, I will also need the two new sticks of RAM returned.

Thanks-
Bob


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so im like wok the fok.. hes already sent it back to me.. im about to just keep the computer and the new ram... thanks for the upgrade?

i didnt even agree to a refund, and he ships it and wants me to pay for the shipping both ways.

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UPDATE # 2
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so i just got back from lunch with my gf,
and i havnt replied to the first 2 e-mails.
i just got the 3rd

The final for the refund is as follows. I paid 638.54 originally plus 43.20 for shipping it back to you (plus insurance). This comes to $681.74. If you opt to keep the two sticks of additional RAM, then you would need to add $87.49 to the total. The computer should arrive no latter then Saturday, thus I would expect payment no latter then Saturday as well. I certainly did everything I could on my end, but the operating system issue was the final straw for me. My hope is that we can peacefully resolve this matter, as you seem like a nice guy. An invoice will follow.

Thanks-
Bob

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.... the computer was 588.54, and he says he paid 638.54. if i was goign to refund no way i would refund original 50 bucks to ship, let alone the aditiona 43.20 he shipped for it...

what a noob cake.

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Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: ajtyeh

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: ajtyeh

Originally posted by: Wonderful Pork

Originally posted by: us3rnotfound
can you link us to the auction?

edit: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=51145&item=130001589833
How do you put that box together with office 2003 and xp pro sp2? There's the $500 right there . Are you operating your business at a loss?

Feedback left: Worked hard to resolve a sudden challenge. Good EBayer!

Man, I would pay $588 just for all that software! XP 2, Office, Photoshop CS2 and StudioMX! If its legit that is...

The software is legit, they are all mine, i just installed it for him, i made it clear to him that he wasnt getting the actual copies.
so this has nothing to do with it.

You didn't give him a copy of the software? Especially XP? What was he going to do in the event he needed to reinstall the software? Not to mention if you're installing xp on someone's computer, it should only be used on that computer. 1 license per copy.

now that i know that, its my mistkae... ill just take the computer back ... problem will be solved for the software at least... but thats not the main problem... i guess ill refund 583 like the other guy said.

yeah...sure...lol...man this thread gets better by the post.

Originally posted by: iRONic

Is your phone number 240-426-5412?

Considering you just admitted to installing unlicensed software onto a computer to sell to another individual, I would think Microsoft may want to look into this. :Q

 

[iRONic]

Whatever, Blackbeard. The link's in your sig, dumbass.

 

[ajtyeh]

Originally posted by: iRONic
Whatever, Blackbeard. The link's in your sig, dumbass.

what a jerk...

 

[Bryophyte]

I want Bob to come in and give us his side of the story.

 

[iRONic]

Originally posted by: ajtyeh

Originally posted by: iRONic
Whatever, Blackbeard. The link's in your sig, dumbass.

what a jerk...

Ahahahahaha!!

 

[ajtyeh]

well i e-mailed bob back and told him im refusing delievery, and its done deal.
hopefully he leaves me alone.

 

[iRONic]

Originally posted by: Bryophyte
I want Bob to come in and give us his side of the story.

Email him a link through his ebay profile.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Technically, his comments only show that he didn't send the physical CDs along with the computer. He never actually states that they were illegally obtained or unlicensed. Microsoft is not going to care.

 

[DaiShan]

Wow this thread has given me a headache. You guys were both wrong, I say you both chalk it up to experience, you refund him for computer and shipping one way, he pays for shipping the other way. That way you will both take more care on your next trade.

 

[waggy]

hmm now that i had time to think about this. i think you should refund every penny.

as others stated you sold a machine full of illegal software. the guy could have gotten in to a LOT of trouble.

 

[ajtyeh]

yeah im done with this... thanks for the help guys... i guess we were both wrong...

and ironic... get a life

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: waggy
hmm now that i had time to think about this. i think you should refund every penny.

as others stated you sold a machine full of illegal software. the guy could have gotten in to a LOT of trouble.

Ultimately, the guy wouldn't have gotten into any trouble. It would've fallen onto the seller.

 

[iRONic]

Originally posted by: ajtyeh
yeah im done with this... thanks for the help guys... i guess we were both wrong...

and ironic... get a life

Ahahahaha!!!!

You're an idiot. I'm not the one shipping somebody elses expensive merch through the USPS uninsured.

 

[Bryophyte]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
Technically, his comments only show that he didn't send the physical CDs along with the computer. He never actually states that they were illegally obtained or unlicensed. Microsoft is not going to care.

What reasonable explanation could he give for retaining the cds?

 

[DanTMWTMP]

close out your paypal account or something if you can. just do a return on the shipment. don't accept it.

EDIT: wow, i just read the thread. i want to say something mean, but I'll refrain from doing so.