4.1 GHz 805D???

[MAXIMISE]

Excellent, that helps me out a lot. Thanks. I had assumed a divider from the info but had the concern it wouldn't be enough.
I wasn't going to bother going as high as Tom's Hardware. I would be happy with 3.2 (3.6 if my cooling lets the rig sit comfortably).
I have a 500W PSU so there won't be an issue there.

Thanks again.
Max

 

[Noubourne]

This is exactly what is so sad about the Toms article. You see, now regular joes are out shopping for dualie Pentium Ds to overclock, when they'd get more mileage out of an Athlon 64 3000+ for $130 and a $75 mobo with stock cooling. All of those will do at least 2.4Ghz, which would likely spank the 3.4-3.5 they're going to get out of their Pentium D 805 on stock cooling. And for cheaper, and cooler, and using less power.

I've had a Venice 3000+ at 2.6Ghz for quite some time, and frankly, none of the Pentium D benches make me flinch. I've been at FX-55 speeds (which cost $1000 when I first matched it) for $146, and I didn't need a water setup to do it. I used a $35 Zalman, which is also quiet to boot. On top of all that, I've had it running for a year already.

Where was the glowing Venice overclocking article from Tom's 10 months ago? Ohhhh, that's right: Last July they were overclocking the FX-57 (2.8Ghz stock) to 3.0Ghz. OMG!!! 200Mhz on a $1100 chip! Thank god for that brilliant reporting!!!!!

The $146 Venice 3000+ overclocking story was covered by many, many enthusiast sites. I guess that's why Tom's ignored it. They're not an enthusiast site, they're an Intel shill.

 

[Markfw]

which would likely spank the 3.4-3.5 they're going to get out of their Pentium D 805 on stock cooling

NOT ! I couldn;t even get 3.0 out of mine, it would shut down when it hit 70c ! I had to leave the case open to get 3.0, and thats the most it would do. Once I got a $50 cooler, then I get 3.5

 

[Mr Vain]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

which would likely spank the 3.4-3.5 they're going to get out of their Pentium D 805 on stock cooling

NOT ! I couldn;t even get 3.0 out of mine, it would shut down when it hit 70c ! I had to leave the case open to get 3.0, and thats the most it would do. Once I got a $50 cooler, then I get 3.5

Maybe you got a bad 805 D chip everyone else is getting good overclocks?

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=1&artpage=1803&articID=437

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=3&artpage=1805&articID=437

A comparison between an 805 D @4 GHz and an OVERCLOCKED FX-60 @ 3 GHz.
IN THEIR WORDS.
---Although the FX-60 beats the D805 easily in the CPU test the overall score is in favor of the D805, which is weird, repeating the test several times didn?t change the outcome. The Celeron D 356 has a clear Ghz lead but it doesn?t translate in better performance as it trails the other two configurations.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Mr Vain

Originally posted by: Markfw900

which would likely spank the 3.4-3.5 they're going to get out of their Pentium D 805 on stock cooling

NOT ! I couldn;t even get 3.0 out of mine, it would shut down when it hit 70c ! I had to leave the case open to get 3.0, and thats the most it would do. Once I got a $50 cooler, then I get 3.5

Maybe you got a bad 805 D chip everyone else is getting good overclocks?

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=1&artpage=1803&articID=437

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=3&artpage=1805&articID=437

A comparison between an 805 D @4 GHz and an OVERCLOCKED FX-60 @ 3 GHz.
IN THEIR WORDS.
---Although the FX-60 beats the D805 easily in the CPU test the overall score is in favor of the D805, which is weird, repeating the test several times didn?t change the outcome. The Celeron D 356 has a clear Ghz lead but it doesn?t translate in better performance as it trails the other two configurations.

Please read my previous post. IF you have a $200 motherboard and IF you have watercooling and IF you have good memory, and IF you have a good power supply, you can probably get 4.1 ghz. But why spend all that money, when a X2 3800 on stock air cooling and a $80 motherboard and cheap memory, and a $50 PSU can OC to 2.6, which has a higher FSB and will beat a stock FX-60, AND IT ENDS UP BEING CHEAPER TO BUY. So what the chip is $130, its all the rest you need to get a good OC.

Thats why I got the 805, on a cheap motherboard, and tried the retail cooling. So I could compare cheap to cheap, and the 805 looses in every respect. If you don;t add all the other exspensive items, you have a slow hot machine.

The only place it has a life, is for someone to use it at stock, for something that takes advantage of dual-core, and then you still have to deal with the heat.

 

[Absolute0]

Yes mark, you need a 200$ Intel motherboard to overclock, and you need watercooling to hit 4 Ghz.

You haven't learned a thing from me.


Another example of the 805D not sucking
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1421370&postcount=1
The POS mobo went to 3.45 Ghz. Cooling is an XP90 which i've seen for 25$ and under.

Rounding that up excessively in case you don't have a 92mm fan, that's 190$ for an 805D at ~3.4 Ghz+

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Absolute0
Yes mark, you need a 200$ Intel motherboard to overclock, and you need watercooling to hit 4 Ghz.

You haven't learned a thing from me.

I don't need to learn anything from you I AM THE ONE WHO HAS AN 805 AND I KNOW HOW IT ACTS AND WORKS. You are not listening to me. I have the cheap motherboard, and I have it OC'ed to 3.5, but it still requires decent memory, and a good hsf and an Antec 550 to get there.

 

[Absolute0]

I've got one too, 7 feet away from me, and i know how it acts and works. Probably better since i have some decent cooling and a decent motherboard and have a sense of what it can do.


I don't know why you got an 805D with a good HSF and an overkill PSU if you're going to run it on a chincy motherboard. Break that down into components, the motherboard is limiting you while the others are fine, and the psu is completely excessive. You built an unbalanced system and it doesn't clock well, surprise surprise. Doesn't mean others can't build a balnced system and now blow their budget.

 

[Markfw]

It wouldn;t run on the stock cooler, so I got a Big Typhoon like my 820D. And the 350 watt PSU wouldn;t work, and I had the 550 laying around, so I used it..

So, again, my point is, if you OC, you have to spend as much as an X2 3800 to get the same perf. Yes, you can get 3.5 for ~190 (not including the good memory you need, my PC4200 wouldn;t do squat), but then the performance is WAY lower than a 3800 X2.

 

[Absolute0]

You don't need good memory. I don't know why your PC4200 doesn't work but it's YOUR problem.

3.5 Ghz outperforms a stock X2 3800+, only overclocks do the tides turn.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Absolute0
You don't need good memory. I don't know why your PC4200 doesn't work but it's YOUR problem.

3.5 Ghz outperforms a stock X2 3800+, only overclocks do the tides turn.

I don't have a problem. My OCZ 667 PC5400 works fine. I should say, the PC4200 works, just can;t get past 3.0 ghz with it.

As to speed, to be fair, of course I am comparing OC'ed cheap 805 to OC'ed cheap X2 3800, you can't compare OC'ed to stock.

 

[Absolute0]

Hehe, X2 isn't cheap compared to 805D. If the 805D costs X, then the 3800+ X2 costs 2x + 35

For what it's worth, my roommate's DDR533 is doing 720 or so on 4-4-4 timings



Nah no more out of me, whenever i say 805D you say, and i dare you to read this:

"what a volcano, you need watercooling to hit 4 Ghz (no, wrong, i showed 4.1 on air). You need a 200$ motherboard (done on 150$ motherboard, 120$ motherboard works). You need a 550W PSU (no you need a mediocre PSU and could get away with a 60$ one). You need expensive memory (no, you need a motherboard with dividers). DDR2 memory is more expensive than DDR1 memory (earlier i provided links to prove this). It will heat the house (heat output of 1 CPU is insignificant compared to the volume of a home). It will cost 70$ a year just to run (yes if you run 24/7/365 @ dual load, and then other CPUs take up power too). It only wins in synthetics (only tests done were synthetic...). Who cares that you can get it with a motherboard for 150$ if you need a 200$ motherboard and a 100$ PSU to overclock it (sidestepping the point to rage about the same thing you've already shouted enough to make everyone else stop posting)."

 

[Markfw]

I said CHEAP memory. I paid 59.80 for 4x256 at fry's. And your match doesn;t add up, but since you wiull have the last word, and refuse to listen. I will let you reply. I am done with this crap thread.

 

[Duvie]

I am sure he will babble a bit more about the topic that has gone all over the place.....

 

[F1shF4t]

I dont get why its so hard to understand, the PD 805 has its own cheap market, where on a cheap board with stock cooling getting 2.8 - 3.0 is possible, and u get better performance per dollar than the 3800+ x2. That i would agree on.

When u get into huge overclocks the PD 805 no longer stands that well, it will run extremely hot, require more power and voltage and better cooling. Now why go through that when u can get a x2 3800+ and overclock easily on stock heatsink, where with an ambient room temp of 30 - 35C full load at 2.6ghz u get 63C (that from experiance of using my x2) with better ambient temp the temps are considerably lower. I mean the x2 that i got at stock voltage does 2.7ghz and goes to only just over 40C at full load, and it would probably spank the pd 805 at 4.1ghz in real benchmarks, none of that synsetic crap.

 

[Mr Vain]

Originally posted by: Duvie
I am sure he will babble a bit more about the topic that has gone all over the place.....

Absolute0?s (and some others) have provided very informative and valuable information for me and I didn?t consider it as babble in my opinion. I wish I could say the same about all the posts in this thread. You don?t have an Intel rig do you? Only AMD Rig?
Thanks for your balanced input Duvie in this thread.


Rig 1 AMD Barton 2600M@2.3Ghz Abit NF7-V2(voltmod) 1Gb Geil OneDDR@2-2-2-2 ATI XT850PE
Rig 2 Intel Northwood 2.6C@3357Ghz Abit AI7 1Gb Kingmax Hardcore DDR@2.5-3-3- 7 Asus XT600
Rig 3 IN THE MAKING Have an Intel 3Ghz 530 thats done 4.5Ghz on air and a D 805 (NSL8ZH) maybe an Asus PSP800-SE MOBO

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Mr Vain

Originally posted by: Duvie
I am sure he will babble a bit more about the topic that has gone all over the place.....

Absolute0?s (and some others) have provided very informative and valuable information for me and I didn?t consider it as babble in my opinion. I wish I could say the same about all the posts in this thread. You don?t have an Intel rig do you? Only AMD Rig?
Thanks for your balanced input Duvie in this thread.


Rig 1 AMD Barton 2600M@2.3Ghz Abit NF7-V2(voltmod) 1Gb Geil OneDDR@2-2-2-2 ATI XT850PE
Rig 2 Intel Northwood 2.6C@3357Ghz Abit AI7 1Gb Kingmax Hardcore DDR@2.5-3-3- 7 Asus XT600
Rig 3 IN THE MAKING Have an Intel 3Ghz 530 thats done 4.5Ghz on air and a D 805 (NSL8ZH) maybe an Asus PSP800-SE MOBO

I have had plenty of intel rigs...exclusively INtel from 2001-late 2004...have only Intel laptops....Have Intel rig now!!! Plan on having a conroe shortly!!!

NO thanks necessary!!!!

 

[Mr Vain]

Originally posted by: Dark Cupcake
I dont get why its so hard to understand, the PD 805 has its own cheap market, where on a cheap board with stock cooling getting 2.8 - 3.0 is possible, and u get better performance per dollar than the 3800+ x2. That i would agree on.

When u get into huge overclocks the PD 805 no longer stands that well, it will run extremely hot, require more power and voltage and better cooling. Now why go through that when u can get a x2 3800+ and overclock easily on stock heatsink, where with an ambient room temp of 30 - 35C full load at 2.6ghz u get 63C (that from experiance of using my x2) with better ambient temp the temps are considerably lower. I mean the x2 that i got at stock voltage does 2.7ghz and goes to only just over 40C at full load, and it would probably spank the pd 805 at 4.1ghz in real benchmarks, none of that synsetic crap.

Man I hear you but if you are building a new Rig an upgrade path is important, I think that Intel are staying with the 775 socket and I thought that AMD are going to a new socket for DDR2. If that?s the case then money invested in an AMD board now maybe limited in the near future.

Rig 1 AMD Barton 2600M@2.3Ghz Abit NF7-V2(voltmod) 1Gb Geil OneDDR@2-2-2-2 ATI XT850PE
Rig 2 Intel Northwood 2.6C@3357Ghz Abit AI7 1Gb Kingmax Hardcore DDR@2.5-3-3- 7 Asus XT600
Rig 3 IN THE MAKING Have an Intel 3Ghz 530 thats done 4.5Ghz on air and a D 805 (NSL8ZH) maybe an Asus PSP800-SE MOBO

 

[Mr Vain]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: Mr Vain

Originally posted by: Duvie
I am sure he will babble a bit more about the topic that has gone all over the place.....

Absolute0?s (and some others) have provided very informative and valuable information for me and I didn?t consider it as babble in my opinion. I wish I could say the same about all the posts in this thread. You don?t have an Intel rig do you? Only AMD Rig?
Thanks for your balanced input Duvie in this thread.


Rig 1 AMD Barton 2600M@2.3Ghz Abit NF7-V2(voltmod) 1Gb Geil OneDDR@2-2-2-2 ATI XT850PE
Rig 2 Intel Northwood 2.6C@3357Ghz Abit AI7 1Gb Kingmax Hardcore DDR@2.5-3-3- 7 Asus XT600
Rig 3 IN THE MAKING Have an Intel 3Ghz 530 thats done 4.5Ghz on air and a D 805 (NSL8ZH) maybe an Asus PSP800-SE MOBO

I have had plenty of intel rigs...exclusively INtel from 2001-late 2004...have only Intel laptops....Have Intel rig now!!! Plan on having a conroe shortly!!!

NO thanks necessary!!!!

Absolute0?s (and some others) have provided very informative and valuable information for me and (PERHAPS MANY OTHERS) I didn?t consider it as babble in my opinion.
Thanks for your balanced (AND POSITIVE) input Duvie in this thread.


NO thanks necessary!!!! DUDE

 

[F1shF4t]

Originally posted by: Mr Vain

Originally posted by: Dark Cupcake
I dont get why its so hard to understand, the PD 805 has its own cheap market, where on a cheap board with stock cooling getting 2.8 - 3.0 is possible, and u get better performance per dollar than the 3800+ x2. That i would agree on.

When u get into huge overclocks the PD 805 no longer stands that well, it will run extremely hot, require more power and voltage and better cooling. Now why go through that when u can get a x2 3800+ and overclock easily on stock heatsink, where with an ambient room temp of 30 - 35C full load at 2.6ghz u get 63C (that from experiance of using my x2) with better ambient temp the temps are considerably lower. I mean the x2 that i got at stock voltage does 2.7ghz and goes to only just over 40C at full load, and it would probably spank the pd 805 at 4.1ghz in real benchmarks, none of that synsetic crap.

Man I hear you but if you are building a new Rig an upgrade path is important, I think that Intel are staying with the 775 socket and I thought that AMD are going to a new socket for DDR2. If that?s the case then money invested in an AMD board now maybe limited in the near future.

Rig 1 AMD Barton 2600M@2.3Ghz Abit NF7-V2(voltmod) 1Gb Geil OneDDR@2-2-2-2 ATI XT850PE
Rig 2 Intel Northwood 2.6C@3357Ghz Abit AI7 1Gb Kingmax Hardcore DDR@2.5-3-3- 7 Asus XT600
Rig 3 IN THE MAKING Have an Intel 3Ghz 530 thats done 4.5Ghz on air and a D 805 (NSL8ZH) maybe an Asus PSP800-SE MOBO

I see your point but there is another thing to consider, even though the socket will stay the same the chipset will change to support conroe etc. So really the only advantege that your getting is to be able to use the older PD processor in the newer board later on, and to reuse ur memory, although this is gonna be important for some people at this stage, i bet in the future the support of older PD's will be droped form the newer boards and chipsets, like what happened with the original P4 cpus which were no longer supported by motherboards which were meant for northwood/prescot cpus.

So u wil have the inital advantage in cpu terms, but later on it will diminish. Only thing u get is to be able to reuse the ram, but even that at this stage i would doubt how long ddr2 will last before ddr3 etc will be avalable. But like i said before you will probably have longer longetivity to be able to get compatible parts for the PD that ur buying as socket 939 parts will diminish quicker as there is no longer backwards compatibility between newer boards, ram and older athlons 64.

 

[Mr Vain]

I see your point but there is another thing to consider, even though the socket will stay the same the chipset will change to support conroe etc. So really the only advantege that your getting is to be able to use the older PD processor in the newer board later on, and to reuse ur memory, although this is gonna be important for some people at this stage, i bet in the future the support of older PD's will be droped form the newer boards and chipsets, like what happened with the original P4 cpus which were no longer supported by motherboards which were meant for northwood/prescot cpus.

So u wil have the inital advantage in cpu terms, but later on it will diminish. Only thing u get is to be able to reuse the ram, but even that at this stage i would doubt how long ddr2 will last before ddr3 etc will be avalable. But like i said before you will probably have longer longetivity to be able to get compatible parts for the PD that ur buying as socket 939 parts will diminish quicker as there is no longer backwards compatibility between newer boards, ram and older athlons 64.



Their is at least 1 Motherboard that?s Guaranteed to work with all 775 CPU?s including Conroe at the moment not to mention all the new ones coming out in the next few months.

http://fanboyreview.blogspot.com/2006/0...thanks-to-coolaler-for-letting-me.html

There are even some old i865 chipset boards that are rumoured to work with Conroe.
Beyond Conroe maybe a bios update for the next thing.

 

[F1shF4t]

Originally posted by: Mr Vain





I see your point but there is another thing to consider, even though the socket will stay the same the chipset will change to support conroe etc. So really the only advantege that your getting is to be able to use the older PD processor in the newer board later on, and to reuse ur memory, although this is gonna be important for some people at this stage, i bet in the future the support of older PD's will be droped form the newer boards and chipsets, like what happened with the original P4 cpus which were no longer supported by motherboards which were meant for northwood/prescot cpus.

So u wil have the inital advantage in cpu terms, but later on it will diminish. Only thing u get is to be able to reuse the ram, but even that at this stage i would doubt how long ddr2 will last before ddr3 etc will be avalable. But like i said before you will probably have longer longetivity to be able to get compatible parts for the PD that ur buying as socket 939 parts will diminish quicker as there is no longer backwards compatibility between newer boards, ram and older athlons 64.



Their is at least 1 Motherboard that?s Guaranteed to work with all 775 CPU?s including Conroe at the moment not to mention all the new ones coming out in the next few months.

http://fanboyreview.blogspot.com/2006/0...thanks-to-coolaler-for-letting-me.html

There are even some old i865 chipset boards that are rumoured to work with Conroe.
Beyond Conroe maybe a bios update for the next thing.

Yes i understand there is a mainboard avalable which will work with conroe, my point is, unless everyone bought that mainboard, they are almost in the same boat, as they will have to change mainboards to support conroe. And my second point is that eventually not all new boards will support old pentium D, this is what happeed with socker 478 where a lot of new boards were mot compatible with the old P4 willamette or what ever its called.

My point is used for general people, not just enthusiasts, most who bought skt 939 or PD will be in the same boat in a couple of years, where the only advantage the PD crowd will have is reusing their mem.

 

[thewilson]

Hi,

I have been reading through this thread looking for motherboard suggestions. Does anyone actually have any?

At the minute I'm running a 3000+ based Gentoo Linux (32bit) system, which has served me quite well. I am going to have to ditch it however as I am moving back to Glasgow and it will cost more to transport it there than to buy a new b0x. I'd like to move to a dual core system to reduce the amount of time I spend watching crap scroll by in a terminal window, the 805D seems a relatively inexpensive way to do this.

I'm quite interested in the overclocking potential of the 805D, at the minute I'm not really interested in rocking 4.1Ghz but a permanent 3.32Ghz would be nice. I'd also like a board supporting sli I don't game a great deal so this is less important, but it would be nice to be play with. The Asus P5WD2-E mentioned in the tomshardware article is a little pricey for me. The 'Asus P5ND2 SLi nForce4 SLi ' here http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Asus_177.html seems compatible to me and it is a fair bit cheaper than the P5WD2-E. Any comments or critasisms of this board?

In summary I am looking for:

Moderate overclocking ability
Moderate price tag
Sli (not essential)

If you have had experience with the board you are suggesting (and are able to recall installing it) could you also add a note if you needed to update the BIOS to get anything working? Again it's not a huge problem but it can be a pain to have to install Windows to get a BIOS update on, especially if you only find out having spent time wondering why something won't work in linux.

Many Thanks for helping out a n00b

Will

Apologies for the following pissy Post Script but I want an informed reply rather than an example of manufacturer zealotry.

Pre-emptive replies:

"Why dont you get another Athlon X000+" or "Get an Opteron XXX" or "Get an X2/dual opteron"
Is the CPU you want to suggest dual core? If not please bear in mind that good multitasking is more important to me than gaming.
If I could afford an X2 or dual opteron rig I would get one.

"CPU X can be overclocked harder"
I only want to overclock it a bit, if I feel I need it to perform at 4.1Ghz I'll put together a DistCC cluster before buying a watercooling option.

"Your electricity bill will negate any saving you make on the CPU" or "The 805D runs HOTTT"
I'm going to be living with postgraduate students, my electricity bill is going to be enormous anyway.
The heat produced by an overclocked 805 will be a welcome comfort come winter in Glasgow.

"Why don't you wait for XXX"
Firstly I actually don't think I could survive for more than a couple of weeks without a machine to tinker with.
Secondly, I have never upgraded a CPU without buying a whole new mainboard, if I wait for CPU XXX I will end up spending a fortune on the newest bit of kit, that will undoubtably need brand new flashy RAM and who knows what else, I'm looking for a budget system I can buy next month.

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: thewilson
Hi,

I have been reading through this thread looking for motherboard suggestions. Does anyone actually have any?

At the minute I'm running a 3000+ based Gentoo Linux (32bit) system, which has served me quite well. I am going to have to ditch it however as I am moving back to Glasgow and it will cost more to transport it there than to buy a new b0x. I'd like to move to a dual core system to reduce the amount of time I spend watching crap scroll by in a terminal window, the 805D seems a relatively inexpensive way to do this.

I'm quite interested in the overclocking potential of the 805D, at the minute I'm not really interested in rocking 4.1Ghz but a permanent 3.32Ghz would be nice. I'd also like a board supporting sli I don't game a great deal so this is less important, but it would be nice to be play with. The Asus P5WD2-E mentioned in the tomshardware article is a little pricey for me. The 'Asus P5ND2 SLi nForce4 SLi ' here http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Asus_177.html seems compatible to me and it is a fair bit cheaper than the P5WD2-E. Any comments or critasisms of this board?

In summary I am looking for:

Moderate overclocking ability
Moderate price tag
Sli (not essential)

If you have had experience with the board you are suggesting (and are able to recall installing it) could you also add a note if you needed to update the BIOS to get anything working? Again it's not a huge problem but it can be a pain to have to install Windows to get a BIOS update on, especially if you only find out having spent time wondering why something won't work in linux.

Many Thanks for helping out a n00b

Will

Apologies for the following pissy Post Script but I want an informed reply rather than an example of manufacturer zealotry.

Pre-emptive replies:

"Why dont you get another Athlon X000+" or "Get an Opteron XXX" or "Get an X2/dual opteron"
Is the CPU you want to suggest dual core? If not please bear in mind that good multitasking is more important to me than gaming.
If I could afford an X2 or dual opteron rig I would get one.

"CPU X can be overclocked harder"
I only want to overclock it a bit, if I feel I need it to perform at 4.1Ghz I'll put together a DistCC cluster before buying a watercooling option.

"Your electricity bill will negate any saving you make on the CPU" or "The 805D runs HOTTT"
I'm going to be living with postgraduate students, my electricity bill is going to be enormous anyway.
The heat produced by an overclocked 805 will be a welcome comfort come winter in Glasgow.

"Why don't you wait for XXX"
Firstly I actually don't think I could survive for more than a couple of weeks without a machine to tinker with.
Secondly, I have never upgraded a CPU without buying a whole new mainboard, if I wait for CPU XXX I will end up spending a fortune on the newest bit of kit, that will undoubtably need brand new flashy RAM and who knows what else, I'm looking for a budget system I can buy next month.

I can recomend the Gigabyte 8N-SLI, since I am running my 805 on there @3.7ghz(thats on water cooling though, with a scythe ninja, or big typhoon you should be able to hit 3.4-3.5ghz without throttling.)

 

[thewilson]

Thanks stevty, that looks like a good board for me