*4-17-2003 UDPATE* First Reviews Ready. Intel 865/875 (Springdale/Canterwood)

[jaeger66]

Originally posted by: jorken
Hey, Anand hi-jacked a canterwood board for his 9600 review.

If I see one more Radeon review I thnk I'm going to scream.

 

[Wurrmm]

Gigabyte has another 875P mobo. It looks like it lacks gigabit ethernet and has 2 less serial ATAs than the 8KNXP and 8KNXP Ultra. Linked

 

[jorken]

The more the merrier i guess...

 

[RedFive]

Still no new motherboard reviews. *cries*

 

[Wurrmm]

A nice comparison of the Gigabyte, Abit, and MSI mobos is what I really want to see. I basically can't get anything until the slower CPUs come out anyway, like the 2.6 or 2.8 ghz.

 

[jorken]

Originally posted by: Wurrmm
A nice comparison of the Gigabyte, Abit, and MSI mobos is what I really want to see. I basically can't get anything until the slower CPUs come out anyway, like the 2.6 or 2.8 ghz.

ditto, works out for the best though.

 

[Grimp]

What about the new Chaintech Zenith? Text

 

[wutou]

Originally posted by: Grimp
What about the new Chaintech Zenith? Text

It is impressive! But I will wait for Abit IC-7. Can not trust chaintech before I read any review.

 

[wutou]

BTW, where is the review? It is supposed to be out yesterday, right?

 

[Paradoxx]

Is there any real diffrence between the 2 gigabyte boards other then the SCSI and IEEE1394. I see that the ULtra Board has SCSI but not Firewire. One thing else I saw at their website is the wording is a little diffrent on these two points:

Ultra
1. Supports Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology
2. Supports new generation 800MHz system bus

GA-8KNXP
1. Supports 800MHz FSB Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology
2. Supports new generation Dual Channel DDR400 architecture

Looks diffrent but I think it means the same thing. right?

I am trying to figure out if the reviews will represent both of these boards.

 

[eclectro]

Originally posted by: Grimp
What about the new Chaintech Zenith? Text

I have always been partial to motherboard manufactures that put handles on their boxes.

 

[eclectro]

newegg has the DFI PRO875 lan party board as coming out 4/25 for $199. It glows under UV. That looks like a strong sellingpoint right there.

Sure is purty.

 

[Schneider]

This notice is mainly for Australians
Found Abit IC7-G and IC7 at Altech Computers for $460 AU and $400 respectively Its time for some real o/cing :evil:

 

[Wurrmm]

The chaintech don't look too bad. However, I still need a review to point out any quirks before I buy anything. Oh, as I said earlier there is 3rd Gigabye mobo besides the 8KNXPs. What I am wondering is why make it??? Is the lack of CSA and another Serial ATA controller gona save that much?? The 8KNXP non-ultra still looks to be the best for me. I have never tried DPS and it looks pretty cool. I saw on another mobo, I think is was the MSI some kind or special power management thing. Is that like the DPS at all??

EDIT: IMO, the layout of the Gigabyte is the best. Having the CPU HSF right near the edge and away for alot of other junk is a good feature.

 

[sumrtym]

Paradoxx:

Yes, the only difference is Ultra has SCSI but no firewire, and the non-ultra has firewire but no SCSI.

Anandtech won't be reviewing the non-ultra as performance-wise they should be identical with only these two features different.

I like the layout of Gigabyte, but really wish they had used a passive heatsink on that northbridge. That heatsink under the fan is WAY small in my opinion. Also, does anyone know if the mobo comes with software to alert if the northbridge fan fails???????

 

[oldfart]

Where are those individual board reviews??

 

[RedFive]

Looks like one's up now. The Gigabyte 8KNXP Ultra. Very nice. ^_^

 

[jaeger66]

Originally posted by: RedFive
Looks like one's up now. The Gigabyte 8KNXP Ultra. Very nice. ^_^

And it looks like all have been benched. Abit next please!

 

[Schneider]

great scores
where do i get gigabytes??

Originally posted by: jaeger66

Originally posted by: RedFive
Looks like one's up now. The Gigabyte 8KNXP Ultra. Very nice. ^_^

And it looks like all have been benched. Abit next please!

ditto to that

 

[GetInMyFatBelly]

Even though the Gigabyte review implys that the non-Ultra 8KNXP board has CSA, I can't find that on Gigabytes website. Can anyone confirm???

 

[jaeger66]

Originally posted by: GetInMyFatBelly
Even though the Gigabyte review implys that the non-Ultra 8KNXP board has CSA, I can't find that on Gigabytes website. Can anyone confirm???

It does have CSA, see link below. GB has 3 875 boards. GA-8KNXP Ultra, GA-8KNXP, and the "budget" GA-8IK1100. The GA-8IK1100 does NOT have CSA, but the other 2 do.

http://tw.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products/Products_GA-8KNXP.htm

 

[iamTux]

Evan, I don't get the actual settings for the 845PE board in the comparison:

All performance tests run on 845PE motherboards utilized one 512MB Corsair XMS PC3200 module set to CAS 2/2T/5T/2T timings and running at 333MHz.

In all benchmark diagrams it says:

ABIT BH7 (845PE-Single Channel DDR400)

Please enlighten me: what settings did the Abit board run on?

- FSB speed
- memory speed


I see an advantage of about 5% in DivX and Game benchmarks. This would suggest it ran at 200 Mhz FSB and DDR400 as labeld in benchmark diagrams. Is this correct?

Btw: could you stress test a PE mobo in order to see what it's maximum FSB is, now that low ratio CPU are available. TIA.

 

[First]

Originally posted by: iamTux
Evan, I don't get the actual settings for the 845PE board in the comparison:

All performance tests run on 845PE motherboards utilized one 512MB Corsair XMS PC3200 module set to CAS 2/2T/5T/2T timings and running at 333MHz.

In all benchmark diagrams it says:

ABIT BH7 (845PE-Single Channel DDR400)

Please enlighten me: what settings did the Abit board run on?

- FSB speed
- memory speed


I see an advantage of about 5% in DivX and Game benchmarks. This would suggest it ran at 200 Mhz FSB and DDR400 as labeld in benchmark diagrams. Is this correct?

Btw: could you stress test a PE mobo in order to see what it's maximum FSB is, now that low ratio CPU are available. TIA.

Thanks for catching that error, it's been corrected. The ABIT BH7 was indeed running memory at 400MHz DDR with the FSB at 800MHz (quad pumped).

By the way, which low multiplier P4 processor are you talking about?

 

[iamTux]

Thanks Evan for clearing this one up. I was quite sure it was just some rudiment of former PE tests.


I was referring to the new FSB 800 CPU: 2400 = 18*133 vs. 12*200. In your Test of the ABIT BH7 from April 6th you mention:

We're happy to report that the ABIT BH7 can indeed reliably operate at 800MHz FSB. In fact, the BH7 was able to reach just over 218MHz FSB (that's about 872MHz FSB for those of you that are mathematically impaired ).

I was thinking the FSB of 218 Mhz would maybe be the limit of this particular Mobile P4. Now you have a P4 FSB800 for testing which limits are far obviously far beyond (matched 240MHz FSB in the Gigabyte 8KNXP test). This looks much more like the actual limit of the chipset rather than of the CPU.

Can you check back and see how far a 845PE can be pushed? Maybe even the ABIT BH7 from your test if it's still available. This would be very informative. Thank you.

 

[Wurrmm]

YESS!!!! That review was stellar. It would still be nice to see a comparison to an nForce 2 with the FSB oced to 400 or close to 400. However, it totally looks like I will be getting the non-ultra at $220. That is a sweet price... Both the Abit and the MSI looked pretty good also, but the layout of the Gigabyte have sold it for me. Thanks Evan!!!