4 African-Americans arrested for kidnap/torture of handicapped white male and live-streaming of it.

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desura

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I hear you but then why do people have a more negative reaction to ideological based killings like San Bernardino then people like Roof? From my POV terrorism is terrorism

False. Roof was universally condemned. San Bernardino raised real possibility that the line about America's Muslim community somehow being better than Europe's Muslim community due to American tolerance is completely false. Only difference between European Muslims and American Muslims is that there are fewer over here. The best policy to reduce terrorism isn't community cooperation but instead a simple numbers game.

As to Roof, not much to say. What he did was so obviously wrong. Even segregationist racists would have thought it evil. He appears to be a one-off unconnected to a larger trend of similar actions. Syed Farook is a part of a larger trend and a sign that the wave is getting worse.
 

wetech

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Roof definitely was evil. He had an ideology developed in his act.

These kids were...yeah, like animals. They weren't thinking. They let base instincts take over. Animals are better than evil, if that helps. Animals that's just pack nature. Evil is considered and thought-out wrong.

Can we stop calling them kids. 3 were 18, and 1 was 24.
 

momeNt

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I wouldn't call them animals. I would call them easily influenced by the divisive climate that places like facebook and twitter help promote.
 

1prophet

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imagine generations of blacks growing up in broken homes because of continuation of slavery stemming back to the 13th amendment... Whose at fault?


Just like people that blame their wife beating on their father beating their mother and likewise they blaming their father doing the same,

at some point one needs to let go of the past and it's bitterness in order to move forward in to the future.
 

qliveur

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First part of clip is Fox News claiming they were representatives from BLM. No evidence and its Fox. Second clip again we don't know if its the official group or protesters holding up signs BLM. Most people who held up signs across the country were not part of the group. As for fry 'em its a capitol punishment slang. Not calling for assassination. Until you find an official statement from the organization them selves or one of their leaders, I stand by my ststement

Now we have Trump himself so there is not doubt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIs2L2nUL-0

Liars love to call other people liars, right Skippy??
I haven't denied anything that Trump said.

You, on the other hand, are trying (and failing) to obfuscate the obvious. It's pathetic.

I'm just gonna let the dead cops speak for themselves. Oh, wait; they can't. They're dead.
 

werepossum

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I've seen some spectacular comments on other social media recently about firebombing inner cities and so forth.
And there were a number of 'animal' comments in this very thread.
Comments about firebombing inner cities versus livestreaming a mentally handicapped man's torture. Hmm, if only there were some way to weigh these two things . . .

It certainly wasn't a headline on Breitbart, how's that?
As for Roof, I've decided that he is committing a very public and very selfish suicide. Which, I agree, is very evil.
Disagree. Suicide may be evil in its effect on others, but it's an inherently limited act. That animal walked in on people worshipping, calmly spoke with them for some time, and then calmly murdered them in cold blood for things he believed other people were doing for their benefit. I cannot recall a more chilling action. Even Nazi executioners didn't have discussions with Jewish prisoners; it interferes with dehumanizing them. That is a level of subhuman that thankfully, we very seldom see.

Honestly, all five of these "people" should be put down humanely and quickly before they infect anyone else. Sadly, that isn't legally a possibility with the kidnappers, so we'll have to settle for a medium length prison sentence, but the law cannot be perfect.

Roof definitely was evil. He had an ideology developed in his act.

These kids were...yeah, like animals. They weren't thinking. They let base instincts take over. Animals are better than evil, if that helps. Animals that's just pack nature. Evil is considered and thought-out wrong.
Good point.

All four of these kidnappers are bad people. Dylann Roof is a bad person. Folks who commit crimes and hurt others are bad people. Call them animals, evil or whatever, but interjecting race into the discussion simply means you have a horse in this race and to some degree champion one race over the other.

We shouldn't be shy to call out evil for what it is, but folks need to be judged on their actions rather than their race, gender, sexual orientation, political leaning or any other nonsense meant to divide people. That's the way I see it.

Stop blaming the media for how folks think and who they are. Take responsibility for yourself. I don't care what is said in the media, you still have the ability to think. No man will ever better himself if he cries victim and waits for others to pick him up.

None of you are superior to others based on right/left, democrat/republican, liberal/conservative, christian/atheist or whatever you think make you better. Most folks, if given power, will abuse their fellow man to some degree. Almost none of us have the compassion and empathy to use power in the best interest of all. Today's victim is tomorrow's oppressor if you hand him the gun. Stop acting so righteous.
Well said.

CNN'll report on anything trending from fox/brietbart, and the black "animal" narratives are real big with that crowd.
Indeed? It was a CNN anchor who defended these "people", saying their actions were not evil, just indicative of bad home training.
 
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JSt0rm

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lol. not only was bail 1.5k but they were all given obama phones and disability checks for life!
 

agent00f

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Indeed? It was a CNN anchor who defended these "people", saying their actions were not evil, just indicative of bad home training.

Seems reasonable response to the routine accusations that certain folks, always of a certain color, are "animals". No mystery which party here you consider the Real racists.
 

SheHateMe

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The thread on the white kids doing the same thing and getting away with raping a black disabled kid has less posts and less racially charged comments. Very telling.
 

Starbuck1975

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The thread on the white kids doing the same thing and getting away with raping a black disabled kid has less posts and less racially charged comments. Very telling.
Telling that the facts of both cases are distinctly different beyond the race reversal of the instigator(s).
 

FelixDeCat

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Expect to see more people suffer for supporting Donald Trump, even if the voted for Hillary or did not even vote at all.
 
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desura

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Yeah, the relevant thing is that blacks by and large are more likely to victimize whites, or for that matter, hispanics, Asians, etc, than to be victimized. And that effectively means more likely to be a stranger outside of regular association bonds, e.g. the victim didn't do anything to provoke the attack.

Once I realized this, and that the "beneficent and noble" media narrative of black victimhood being largely false, I stopped caring about black victimhood.
 

amdhunter

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Am I the only one that thinks that this #BLMKidnapper is hot?
She can #BLMKidnap me any time.





 

momeNt

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Looks like those photos were taken years ago. Current mugshot is her at 18. Nice that you think a little 15 year old is hot though. Why don't you have a seat.

 

HomerJS

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Yeah, the relevant thing is that blacks by and large are more likely to victimize whites, or for that matter, hispanics, Asians, etc, than to be victimized. And that effectively means more likely to be a stranger outside of regular association bonds, e.g. the victim didn't do anything to provoke the attack.

Once I realized this, and that the "beneficent and noble" media narrative of black victimhood being largely false, I stopped caring about black victimhood.
90% of the time black victims of violent crimes are by other blacks
83% of the time white victims of violent crimes are by other whites

What exactly are you trying to say in this post by lying?
 

agent00f

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90% of the time black victims of violent crimes are by other blacks
83% of the time white victims of violent crimes are by other whites

What exactly are you trying to say in this post by lying?

He's just parroting what he's told by his white-country type sources, and in fairness to him that's pretty typical american conservative fare. When people do as they're told it removes from them much sense of agency.
 
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