Originally posted by: wjgollatz
It was closer to a million tons of ammo confiscated - and 400,000 tons destroyed.
In fact, soldiers are on TV right now - saying there was no ammo of any significane at Al QaQaa.
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
I'm still waiting for a link to this 400,000 tons of weapons. I have feeling it's in the same place as the 100,000 fully trained Iraqi forces . . .
I'm sure someone can detail this since you all appear to know that this does not include tanks, planes . . . and is probably only the warheads NOT missile fuselages.
What numbers? The ones NightCrawler pulled out of his ass?Originally posted by: charrison
These numbers only refer to ordnance, not tanks and planes. And it probably only counts the warhead of the missle...Originally posted by: conjur
How many tons do planes, tanks, and missile weigh?
Run along now, your mother is calling you.
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: wjgollatz
It was closer to a million tons of ammo confiscated - and 400,000 tons destroyed.
In fact, soldiers are on TV right now - saying there was no ammo of any significane at Al QaQaa.
"soldiers" also anally tortured innocent Iraqi civilians at abu-ghraib ...
Originally posted by: conjur
What numbers? The ones NightCrawler pulled out of his ass?Originally posted by: charrison
These numbers only refer to ordnance, not tanks and planes. And it probably only counts the warhead of the missle...Originally posted by: conjur
How many tons do planes, tanks, and missile weigh?
Run along now, your mother is calling you.
Originally posted by: wjgollatz
In fact, soldiers are on TV right now - saying there was no ammo of any significance at Al QaQaa, and they take offense that Kerry was callign them incompetent to be unable to identify UN sealed weapons.
Link for 400,000 tons destroyed or secured.
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
No, the real question is why do people insist that the president is responsible for military planning and security details? It's a ridiculous claim.Originally posted by: Perknose
Of course! The real question is, why didn't the Bush admin foresee and then plan for this? WHY NOT??Originally posted by: NightCrawler
How many tons went uncollected ?
I bet Saddam hide a lot of the weapons in secret places all over the country.
I'm supposed to believe Mr. Scott "Yeah...that's the ticket" McClellan that 400,000tons have been destroyed or are in custody???Originally posted by: christoph83
Maybe you should take your own advice and do some research.Originally posted by: conjur
What numbers? The ones NightCrawler pulled out of his ass?Originally posted by: charrison
These numbers only refer to ordnance, not tanks and planes. And it probably only counts the warhead of the missle...Originally posted by: conjur
How many tons do planes, tanks, and missile weigh?
Run along now, your mother is calling you.
link
Officials at the White House, State Department and Pentagon insisted that 380 tons of stolen material are not a nuclear threat, noting that roughly 400,000 tons of munitions collected throughout Iraq have either been destroyed or are in U.S. custody.
Mr. Bush encouraged the idea today that the timing remained very uncertain. Accusing Mr. Kerry of making "wild charges," the president said American-led forces had seized or destroyed more than 400,000 tons of munitions in Iraq.
Originally posted by: conjur
I'm supposed to believe Mr. Scott "Yeah...that's the ticket" McClellan that 400,000tons have been destroyed or are in custody???Originally posted by: christoph83
Maybe you should take your own advice and do some research.Originally posted by: conjur
What numbers? The ones NightCrawler pulled out of his ass?Originally posted by: charrison
These numbers only refer to ordnance, not tanks and planes. And it probably only counts the warhead of the missle...Originally posted by: conjur
How many tons do planes, tanks, and missile weigh?
Run along now, your mother is calling you.
link
Officials at the White House, State Department and Pentagon insisted that 380 tons of stolen material are not a nuclear threat, noting that roughly 400,000 tons of munitions collected throughout Iraq have either been destroyed or are in U.S. custody.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Oh wait! Maybe I should believe Bush, himself:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10...mpaign/27CND-CAMP.html
Mr. Bush encouraged the idea today that the timing remained very uncertain. Accusing Mr. Kerry of making "wild charges," the president said American-led forces had seized or destroyed more than 400,000 tons of munitions in Iraq.
LMAO!!!
Originally posted by: conjur
Why should I believe it? There's no proof!
Statements from people in the administration? An administration proven to be the most secretive and deceptive in history? Excuse me while I laugh my ass off for the next 15 minutes.
Originally posted by: christoph83
Originally posted by: conjur
Why should I believe it? There's no proof!
Statements from people in the administration? An administration proven to be the most secretive and deceptive in history? Excuse me while I laugh my ass off for the next 15 minutes.
Yet you believe a random news report. You choose what you want to believe. And there is no proof this administration has been secretive either. Thats just an OPINION. Do me a favor and find me a news report that says this :
An administration proven to be the most secretive and deceptive in history?
Good luck with your proof.
?I think (the White House press corps) is trying to do a good job,? he said. ?This president is the most secretive president in my lifetime. Presidents or politicians or people have to try to actually answer the questions.?
Originally posted by: conjur
Why should I believe it? There's no proof!
Statements from people in the administration? An administration proven to be the most secretive and deceptive in history? Excuse me while I laugh my ass off for the next 15 minutes.
I have no idea. I've not read any news reports detailing the seizure or destruction of munitions. And there is to be a post of a link in this thread showing any solid evidence of anything.Originally posted by: charrison
So how much do you think has been captured and destroyed?Originally posted by: conjur
Why should I believe it? There's no proof!
Statements from people in the administration? An administration proven to be the most secretive and deceptive in history? Excuse me while I laugh my ass off for the next 15 minutes.
Originally posted by: conjur
I have no idea. I've not read any news reports detailing the seizure or destruction of munitions. And there is to be a post of a link in this thread showing any solid evidence of anything.Originally posted by: charrison
So how much do you think has been captured and destroyed?Originally posted by: conjur
Why should I believe it? There's no proof!
Statements from people in the administration? An administration proven to be the most secretive and deceptive in history? Excuse me while I laugh my ass off for the next 15 minutes.
Iraq has weapons. Anyone who believes otherwise is delusional.Originally posted by: charrison
So you think Iraq had no weapons at to capture or destroy?
Originally posted by: conjur
Yeah...that's what I think.
:roll:
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: christoph83
Originally posted by: conjur
Why should I believe it? There's no proof!
Statements from people in the administration? An administration proven to be the most secretive and deceptive in history? Excuse me while I laugh my ass off for the next 15 minutes.
Yet you believe a random news report. You choose what you want to believe. And there is no proof this administration has been secretive either. Thats just an OPINION. Do me a favor and find me a news report that says this :
An administration proven to be the most secretive and deceptive in history?
Good luck with your proof.
:Q :Q :Q
WTF?
Have you been living under a rock for the last four years???
Seriously, have you?
Start reading
ABC's Sam Donaldson talks at Albion College
?I think (the White House press corps) is trying to do a good job,? he said. ?This president is the most secretive president in my lifetime. Presidents or politicians or people have to try to actually answer the questions.?
John Dean, part of the Nixon administration, called the Bush admin's secrecy "Worse than Watergate" and wrote a book with that same title about it.
"It is shocking: The Bush administration is suppressing a cia report on 9/11 until after the election, and this one names
"names. Although the report by the inspector general's office of the cia was completed in June, it has not been made
"available to the congressional intelligence committees that mandated the study almost two years ago.
"It is infuriating that a report which shows that high-level people were not doing their jobs in a satisfactory manner
before 9/11 is being suppressed," an intelligence official who has read the report told me, adding that "the report is
potentially very embarrassing for the administration, because it makes it look like they weren't interested in
terrorism before 9/11, or in holding people in the government responsible afterward."
When I asked about the report, Rep. Jane Harman (D-Venice), ranking Democratic member of the House Intelligence
Committee, said she and committee Chairman Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.) sent a letter 14 days ago asking for it to be
delivered. "We believe that the cia has been told not to distribute the report," she said. "We are very concerned."