400,000 tons of weapons collected, half of them have been destroyed

NightCrawler

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How many tons went uncollected ?

I bet Saddam hide a lot of the weapons in secret places all over the country.




and the press is trying to make a story out of 380 tons that 'might' be missing.

The most reliable American news source:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb.../explosives_10-27.html






The IAEA documents from January 2003 found no discrepancy in the amount of the more dangerous HMX explosives thought to be stored at Al-Qaqaa, but they do raise another disturbing possibility.


The documents show IAEA inspectors looked at nine bunkers containing more than 194 tons of HMX at the facility. Although these bunkers were still under IAEA seal, the inspectors said the seals may be potentially ineffective because they had ventilation slats on the sides.

These slats could be easily removed to remove the materials inside the bunkers without breaking the seals, the inspectors noted.


http://www.abcnews.go.com/WNT/...y?id=204304&page=1


I think this story is DEAD cause there will no way to ever know when the explossives were taken and how many there actually were in the first place.
 

conjur

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How many tons do planes, tanks, and missile weigh?


Run along now, your mother is calling you.
 

Todd33

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Link? Oh, you are burping Cheney's speech?

380 tons is enough is kill a whole lot of US troops, that doesn't concern you?
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: NightCrawler
How many tons went uncollected ?

I bet Saddam hide a lot of the weapons in secret places all over the country.
Of course! The real question is, why didn't the Bush admin foresee and then plan for this? WHY NOT??

 

charrison

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Originally posted by: conjur
How many tons do planes, tanks, and missile weigh?


Run along now, your mother is calling you.

These numbers only refer to ordnance, not tanks and planes. And it probably only counts the warhead of the missle...
 

Luck JF

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All those Weapons could cause Mass Destruction. Im glad we went in there and captured them before they got into the wrong hands.
 

NightCrawler

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
How many tons went uncollected ?

I bet Saddam hide a lot of the weapons in secret places all over the country.
Of course! The real question is, why didn't the Bush admin foresee and then plan for this? WHY NOT??

Cause when you fight an enemy that has x000 tons of weapons they can hide them if they want *before* you invade. What the hell would Bush have done to prevent this ?

Saddam wasn't stupid !!!
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: conjur
How many tons do planes, tanks, and missile weigh?


Run along now, your mother is calling you.

no tanks planes or missile conjur, better refer to plab B this time. call us all ignorant neocons and say bush sucks.
 

her209

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How many tons of munitions does Iran have? How many tons of munitions does NK have?
 

CycloWizard

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
How many tons went uncollected ?

I bet Saddam hide a lot of the weapons in secret places all over the country.
Of course! The real question is, why didn't the Bush admin foresee and then plan for this? WHY NOT??
No, the real question is why do people insist that the president is responsible for military planning and security details? It's a ridiculous claim.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: her209
How many tons of munitions does Iran have? How many tons of munitions does NK have?

Enough to level the SK capital in a short period of time.
 

ReiAyanami

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wait, they destroyed perfectly good and usable munitions when we're paying the likes of lockheed and ratheon top dollar for bullets, tanks & missiles? sure there could be a quality control issue but atleast we could arm legitimate iraqi security forces to prevent further tragedies
 

magomago

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Originally posted by: Luck JF
All those Weapons could cause Mass Destruction. Im glad we went in there and captured them before they got into the wrong hands.

Every gun that we have without our houses can be used as weapons of mass destruction. It is our job to go in attack the terrorist NRA Organization before it causes a threat.

The mouse and keyboard you are using can be constitued as weapons of mass destruction. I need to attack you and take control of your house to prevent your ability to think about using it.


And i want to see numbers in relation to other countries, including USA, Europe, etc. etc because 400k sounds like a lot...but what if its "average" as compared with many other nations? You just can't take the bae number without a referernce of a sort
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
wait, they destroyed perfectly good and usable munitions when we're paying the likes of lockheed and ratheon top dollar for bullets, tanks & missiles? sure there could be a quality control issue but atleast we could arm legitimate iraqi security forces to prevent further tragedies

It is probably done as a safety issue. Easier to destry than check them out.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Topic Summary: Saddam had a lot of weapons !

Hehehehe This is the October surprise. Been hearing the Talk Show Hosts blabering all day long that this is the WMD The Fearless Liar was talking about.

Please, the idiot didn't keep trying to say NUKLAER over and over again for nothing especially when he couldn't even say the word.
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
How many tons went uncollected ?

I bet Saddam hide a lot of the weapons in secret places all over the country.
Of course! The real question is, why didn't the Bush admin foresee and then plan for this? WHY NOT??
No, the real question is why do people insist that the president is responsible for military planning and security details? It's a ridiculous claim.

I'll agree with that to an extent. The fact is Iraqi's did infact see troops going for and guarding Oil Facilites rather than other place that would have been higher on a common-sense priority list. The Bush's Administration did have some say on what was too be guarded.
 

Mik3y

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these weapons still arent anywhere near weapons of mass destruction. to me, it doesnt mean anything about the 400tons of munitions found. every country has a lot of weapons, especially during a time of war. i believe the US has 100 times that amount and we're just as hostile to them as they are to us.
 

NightCrawler

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NEWSFLASH! 3000 people died 3 years ago and the culprit is still running lose. MEANWHILE, Sadaam has plans to attack us quarter 'till never.

POPQUIZ! Who is the more imminent threat and who should be disarmed and captured first? HINT! Stockpile size is irrevalent or else every other country would be attacking the US due to the 'danger of having plans to initiate the research of weapons of mass murder-related programs against people we're envious of whom could include neighboring countries and/or its allies thus encoumpassing the rest of the world, mandating a 'war on terror'.

I'm extremely tired right now by the way

Osama is in some cave somewhere doing nothing but making tapes about how he plans to blowup the world if everyone doesn't convert to Islam. Meanwhile his cells are on the loose and making plans of their own.

Getting the cells is a lot more important !!!!
 

tallest1

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Originally posted by: NightCrawler
NEWSFLASH! 3000 people died 3 years ago and the culprit is still running lose. MEANWHILE, Sadaam has plans to attack us quarter 'till never.

POPQUIZ! Who is the more imminent threat and who should be disarmed and captured first? HINT! Stockpile size is irrevalent or else every other country would be attacking the US due to the 'danger of having plans to initiate the research of weapons of mass murder-related programs against people we're envious of whom could include neighboring countries and/or its allies thus encoumpassing the rest of the world, mandating a 'war on terror'.

I'm extremely tired right now by the way

Osama is in some cave somewhere doing nothing but making tapes about how he plans to blowup the world if everyone doesn't convert to Islam. Meanwhile his cells are on the loose and making plans of their own.

Getting the cells is a lot more important !!!!

wow, you caught my post before I deleted it.

Getting the cells certainly is important but tell me..... would you rather destroy those cells to prevent another attack or supposedly out of good will liberate a country run by a dictatorship not much different than a dozen others?
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
wait, they destroyed perfectly good and usable munitions when we're paying the likes of lockheed and ratheon top dollar for bullets, tanks & missiles? sure there could be a quality control issue but atleast we could arm legitimate iraqi security forces to prevent further tragedies
Lockheed and Raytheon employ American citizens and helps us put food on the table.
 
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