Well that's just insane.That may be the worse possible choice in Canada right now. A 3070 Ti costs more than 4070 right now.
I cannot say which frame is fake and which not, all I can see it a smooth gameplay.... DLSS? Yawn! RT performance? Again, Yawn! ... fake frames ...
JFC not a fan of the 4070 at all but the cheapest 3070 Ti is $570. Another reason for me to never watch any of Jay's videos.Yeah I like Jay and most of his videos but he can make some crazy claims at times. He also says at the end of the video to buy a 3070Ti over the 4070. While I still think the 4070 is not great value, that is a ridiculous statement.
Most 3070 Ti are more expensive in the US too. Here's #2-4 by price on pcpartpicker not sold by third parties.Well that's just insane.
But you do agree it's fake? So we agree on that. But noted, I'll be careful yawning since it's not wise!I cannot say which frame is fake and which not, all I can see it a smooth gameplay.
It is not wise yawning on something you have not tested/experienced.
Maybe he was referring to the used market!Most 3070 Ti are more expensive in the US too. Here's #2-4 by price on pcpartpicker not sold by third parties.
Only one I found cheaper is still $570
Do you mean like calling something "half-baked" that you haven't tested/experienced?I cannot say which frame is fake and which not, all I can see it a smooth gameplay.
It is not wise yawning on something you have not tested/experienced.
Maybe he was referring to the used market!
I can't fault you for choosing one over the other in that scenario at all.In all honesty, I have seen 3070's at $300 around here. Now, they come in groups of 3 or more usually so... you know they spent time workin'.
I still prefer the new 3060's at that price I can find sometimes when needed (actually months ago I got a couple for projects) because new and 12GB. You can hate on me if you want for that decision, but the lack of symmetry in the 3070 offering had me just hating it.
No one's paying $859 for the 6800XT instead of the cheapest 4070 at $809, but that's only because the very nice Nitro+ 6950XT is available and in stock for $869.As noted though, in Canada it's the AMD tax as the 6800XT is $50-$100 more expensive than the 4070.
Why would I pay $50 more for the old card with lesser feature set??
6800 XT for $200 less. Sure, sign me up...
No one's paying $859 for the 6800XT instead of the cheapest 4070 at $809, but that's only because the very nice Nitro+ 6950XT is available and in stock for $869.
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I understand the point you are attempting to make, reality is majority of people don’t make purchasing decisions based upon historical average spreadsheets.Most of that extra 100 dollars everybody seems to be complaining about is caused by inflation, that is why I compared the perf. per dollar adjusted for inflation.
2070, 3070 and 4070 cost the same. Performance rose by 100%.
I find all that whining most annoying and silly.
The only grave and real problem here is, that AMD does not have a current competitor to 4070.
Literally 6 days later, 100$ price cut: https://videocardz.com/newz/us-reta...steam-gift-cards-with-all-geforce-rtx-40-gpusLOL!
Hate to burst your bubble, But no significant price cuts are coming anytime soon.
This is early in the cycle, so it will be pretty easy to match production to sales.
But if you wait a year or two, you might get one for $100 off. I'm sure the two year wait to save $100 will be totally worth it.
I understand the point you are attempting to make, reality is majority of people don’t make purchasing decisions based upon historical average spreadsheets.
As of now the market is speaking and it appears they do not like the value proposition of the 4070.
Maybe there will be a price cut, maybe something unexpected will happen or mining will become a thing again and this will change.
Literally 6 days later, 100$ price cut: https://videocardz.com/newz/us-reta...steam-gift-cards-with-all-geforce-rtx-40-gpus
And btw just came here to tell, I don't agree with 99% of stuff that you say. And the difference between 200W and 400W GPU is not that big, if the cooler on the 400W gpu is quiet. Even a low airflow case can handle it. Not everyone will push the card to get the last 5% of performance in exchange for +25% more power draw. And AMD driver has built-in presets for that.
Nvidia could have offered their AIB partners a rebate without saying anything. Those partners can pocket the difference or pass some or all of it along.
Announcing a price cut less than a week after launch is foolish, even if your product needs one. The market will naturally overreact and no one wants a financial meeting full of people whining about share prices.
nVidia hasn't announced anything.
Why do you think they'd be stupid enough to make that kind of announcement? If they need to cut prices, they do so quietly, the market adjusts and they act as though nothing happened.
Why do you think they'd be stupid enough to make that kind of announcement? If they need to cut prices, they do so quietly, the market adjusts and they act as though nothing happened.
Consider your own self and life. Suppose you've screwed something up to a moderate degree. Maybe at work, maybe in your personal life. Do you A) Loudly broadcast this to everyone, or B) Stay quiet and try to fix things in the hope that no one ever notices.
Anyone who answers A without posting full details of it here is obviously a lair. Everyone else is merely human.
You're pretty much implying that they had in post 392.
The rebate, btw, may have been so AIBs could keep the cards at MSRP for some additional unspecified time.
It would be dumb to have a price cut, the whole point of which is to drum up business, and then try to hide it.
You want price cuts advertised to bring attention back to the product.