Sure you can do that six months later, but not after six days. Do you want your loyal customers who bought at the original price to feel like the [female dogs] that they are? Maybe you can give them a voucher they can redeem at NV HQ to have JHH spit in their mouths.
An announced price cut after six days is a sign of weakness to investors. A reduction in price results in increased sales regardless. People are still interested in the new card and search for a 4070 and hey, here's one that's $50 cheaper, I'll get that one.
Basically what happened when some AIBs gave launch buyers refunds when the GTX 280 dropped $150 right after launch when the 4870 launched at less than half the price and ate its lunch.Sure you can do that six months later, but not after six days. Do you want your loyal customers who bought at the original price to feel like the [female dogs] that they are? Maybe you can give them a voucher they can redeem at NV HQ to have JHH spit in their mouths.
An announced price cut after six days is a sign of weakness to investors. A reduction in price results in increased sales regardless. People are still interested in the new card and search for a 4070 and hey, here's one that's $50 cheaper, I'll get that one.
It is not a price cut, it is a bonus given by ONE retailer in ONE country on all RTX 4000 cards.Literally 6 days later, 100$ price cut: https://videocardz.com/newz/us-reta...steam-gift-cards-with-all-geforce-rtx-40-gpus
And btw just came here to tell, I don't agree with 99% of stuff that you say. And the difference between 200W and 400W GPU is not that big, if the cooler on the 400W gpu is quiet....
Reminds me of someone who was using numbers from ONE retailer, in ONE country, to argue the 4070 is selling fine.It is not a price cut, it is a bonus given by ONE retailer in ONE country on all RTX 4000 cards.
This is the reverse crypto moment, gamers have learned to HODL.This is what I am talking about. Read the comments. The push back on this card is strooooong. I think nvidia might have actually overplayed their hand.
I simply offered a counterargument to a view of somebody that 4070 are not selling at all, that there is a case, in which 4070 are the second most selling cards behind 3060, you can clearly see how I got the data and you can make your own conclusion about their validity. That is all.Reminds me of someone who was using numbers from ONE retailer, in ONE country, to argue the 4070 is selling fine.
Reminds me of someone who was using numbers from ONE retailer, in ONE country, to argue the 4070 is selling fine.
This is the reverse crypto moment, gamers have learned to HODL.
You mean yodl? Or yodle?This is the reverse crypto moment, gamers have learned to HODL.
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While there is no major rush on, It looks to me, like they haven't been shunned either, similar thing has been happening with 4070 Ti all along when I checked.
I expect NVidia isn't happy with sales, but they haven't stalled enough for them to price cut them. ...
And what about all those remainders of 3000 series in the supply channel and in the retailer warehouses? Would not dropping price of 4070 disrupt sale of these cards considerably?
I believe that Nvidia do not care at all how slowly are 4070 selling in the first few weeks/months of possibly 2 year sale period of these cards. There is probably a lot of 3070 and 3080 cards that need to be sold first.
What 3000 series remainders? I was checking stock regularly, and 3080+ have been cleared out for months now...
Oh. I had no idea.
The rumors about Nvidia subsidizing the cards in the launch weeks in order to have enough supply at MRSP suggest, that the opposite is coming, price hikes.
The more people from the more companies something involves, the more probability, that a rumor about that is true.
How can you conclude this, unless you know how many cards went to miners and how many to gamers? These are not even distinct categories, with some gamers mining on their cards to earn back (part) of what they spent on it. Scalpers can just as easily sell to miners as to gamers, so their existence doesn't prove that gamers were still just as eager to buy these cards.Crypto mining boom has taught us most humans have little ability to postpone buying when they want something.
If people could hold off, scalpers wouldn't have been getting rich selling GPUs for 2X-3X MSRP.
It's more that there really isn't much demand for GPUs at all right now due to a variety of economic and social factors is likely putting a marked damper on discretionary GPU spending.
Ultimately, your narrative just doesn't hold up to me at all when we these cards not selling out at launch, unlike pretty much every earlier generation. This is a clear indication that gamers are in fact holding off, or are simply exiting the discrete GPU market, for example by buying consoles (which were in low supply during the chip shortage days, but no longer).
Yes, and Nvidia is providing us with an unprecedented poor improvement in price/performance per generation.We just had a 30% collapse in the PC market, and we have a lot of economic uncertainty, inflation, and recession fears. All discretionary spending is down.
Timestamped at the appropriate time.
Multiple independent sources confirm the 4070 is under-selling while RDNA2 sales are up.
It will be obvious if there is a cut by NVidia because it will be across the brands at all the retailers. Not something like a gift card from Microcenter.
It's just the current reality that the main competition to buying Nvidia cards is 'no buy,' rather than AMD.MLID anecdotes. I posted Amazons best seller list yesterday, there were 2 4070s in the top 5, and ZERO AMD cards.
Even if every brand decides to pass the full $50 on to customers....