4070 reviews thread

[Heartbreaker]

HWUB compares 4070 to 4070 Ti.

Of the two he thinks the increased price isn't worth it to get the 4070 Ti, and the 7900 XT is a better buy at that price range.

For $600 4070, is the best option currently available, or wait to see what AMD has when 7800 XT comes out.

 

[Geegeeoh]

No word about the 6950 XT at that price?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

No word about the 6950 XT at that price?

He covers it in the conclusion as a potential option. States that stock is drying up down under, and it's completely OOS at some retailers there. Also, it's an outgoing product. And that AMD's new entry at the price level is still MIA.

I think it is interesting that he and Tim have come around to Nvidia's desired change in editorial direction. Not because they sold out, but because tech like DLSS has matured to the point that both of them are onboard with it. He suggests upscaling a fair number of times.

 

[Heartbreaker]

No word about the 6950 XT at that price?

He mentions supply is drying up on 6950, and there are pros/cons. Overall he comes down on the side of the slightly less expensive 4070. Timestamp for that recommendation of the 4070 over 6950.

 

[beginner99]

No word about the 6950 XT at that price?

6950 XT was never that cheap in most of the world. and even at same $599 it's not really clear winner vs the 4070. I would need a new case because not a single 6950 xt would fit it, while 4070s would fit. PSU is similar, 700 w. I could risk it with a 6950xt but it would sure work with a 4070. And in the same regard, heat. No AC here and nowadays with climate change 90-100 F aren't rare anymore.

 

[jpiniero]

6950 XT was never that cheap in most of the world. and even at same $599 it's not really clear winner vs the 4070.

It is clearly better in raster, no question.

 

[Heartbreaker]

It is clearly better in raster, no question.

Even raster doesn't exist in a vacuum. It's pulling about 200 more watts to achieve about 15% more raster performance, and that is a questionable tradeoff right there for many people, before you even get to other 4070 advantages.

 

[coercitiv]

It's pulling about 200 more watts to achieve about 15% more raster performance, and that is a questionable tradeoff right there for many people

Yup, 15% better raster perf for 200W sounds like a very questionable trade-off. I wonder who would opt for that ever.

 

[Heartbreaker]

Yup, 15% better raster perf for 200W sounds like a very questionable trade-off. I wonder who would opt for that ever.

3090 Ti also being questionable, doesn't somehow make the 6950 XT, less so.

 

[Ranulf]

Wendell at L1Techs weighs in. "Its named wrong".

 

[Aapje]

Wendell at L1Techs weighs in. "Its named wrong".

And priced wrong.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Wendell at L1Techs weighs in. "Its named wrong".

And priced wrong.

With wrong amount of VRAM

 

[IEC]

And launched at the wrong time with the worst PC sales in x86 history.

 

[Thunder 57]

And at the wrong end of "The more you buy, the more you save!" spectrum.

 

[Aapje]

Nvidia's new slogan: "The more you spend, the poorer you get!!!!11"

 

[coercitiv]

3090 Ti also being questionable, doesn't somehow make the 6950 XT, less so.

And yet the market decided in favor of the 3090TI, remember when you valued market decisions above the more calculated observations of the forum? The 3090 Ti was decidedly the more sought after card even for raster performance only.

I'm not even disputing your argument, I happen to agree with you on the fact that 150-200W of heat are not worth 10-15% performance. It's just that you need to decide if you want to have your cake or eat it: you either bow to market decision or join the chorus of armchair experts.

 

[Ranulf]

Rumor mill in full tilt now. Kopite... 16Gb 4070Super is possible...maybe.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1655823348411277312

VidCardz has a 4060ti 16Gb rumor for July.

NVIDIA to launch GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8GB this month, 16GB model planned for July - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA adds more SKUs to RTX 4060 series According to MEGAsizeGPU, who has been a very reliable source in the past, NVIDIA has settled on four new SKUs. Not two but three RTX 4060 models are now on the manufacturer’s roadmap. It appears that NVIDIA listened to the feedback from the gaming...

videocardz.com

 

[psolord]

Rumor mill in full tilt now. Kopite... 16Gb 4070Super is possible...maybe.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1655823348411277312

VidCardz has a 4060ti 16Gb rumor for July.

NVIDIA to launch GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8GB this month, 16GB model planned for July - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA adds more SKUs to RTX 4060 series According to MEGAsizeGPU, who has been a very reliable source in the past, NVIDIA has settled on four new SKUs. Not two but three RTX 4060 models are now on the manufacturer’s roadmap. It appears that NVIDIA listened to the feedback from the gaming...

videocardz.com

The memory chips on the gpu side of the pcb will be like



While the memory chips on the backside will be like

 

[DeathReborn]

6950 XT was never that cheap in most of the world. and even at same $599 it's not really clear winner vs the 4070. I would need a new case because not a single 6950 xt would fit it, while 4070s would fit. PSU is similar, 700 w. I could risk it with a 6950xt but it would sure work with a 4070. And in the same regard, heat. No AC here and nowadays with climate change 90-100 F aren't rare anymore.

Indeed, the UK for example doesn't get good pricing on most cards, the 6950XT is not a good value proposition compared to the 4070. 4070 £550, 4070 TI £790, 6800 £490, 6800XT £550, 6950XT £660 & 7900XT £820. That is how the market sits right now in the UK, bear in mind the 6950XT with typical gaming usage costs an extra £140 to run over a year compared to the 4070.

 

[coercitiv]

Why would you buy the 4060Ti /w 16GB in July when you can buy the 4070 /w Diablo IV today?!

NVIDIA bundles Diablo IV with GeForce RTX 40 series - VideoCardz.com

Diablo 4 free with GeForce RTX 40 GPUs NVIDIA announces game bundle featuring one of the hottest titles this year, Diablo VI. Diablo 4 is an upcoming action role-playing video game that is being developed and published by Blizzard Entertainment. It is the fourth installment in the Diablo series...

videocardz.com

 

[Bigos]

NVIDIA announces game bundle featuring one of the hottest titles this year, Diablo VI.

Blizzard moves really fast.

 

[Heartbreaker]

And yet the market decided in favor of the 3090TI, remember when you valued market decisions above the more calculated observations of the forum? The 3090 Ti was decidedly the more sought after card even for raster performance only.

Did it? Doesn't look that way to me.

I remember the 3090 Ti being lambasted in reviews. Let me check what HWUB said:

Also, if I check Steam HW survey, 3090 Ti does NOT appear yet, but 3090 does, and even 4090 is already there.

So, I don't see any market acceptance here. Reviewers didn't like it, it didn't sell well enough to make Steams survey (rare for a NVidia card). Heck even the universally derided RTX 4080, during this economic downturn, sold enough to make the survey already.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Exactly, but.

This is easy. The Steam survey defenders will say, "obviously, few people buy AMD cards to game on."

Now why is this so contentious. /s

I am laughing at all of the astroturfers. We now have incontrovertible evidence the Steam survey is worthless garbage. The number one language of simple Chinese and 3060 skyrocketing to the top all turned out to be nonsense. Well, worse nonsense than how the data is usually represented. It demonstrates the shenanigans in the way the data is collected, just as I and others hypothesized.

There is now ample evidence it is a broken system. I knew this wasn't a one off, and here we are with it getting the spotlight shone on it. <Mike Tyson> Perfect timing! </> I shall studiously ignore anyone that references it to support their position. It's broken and thus should carry no weight.

My first WTF came when they "revamped the survey" to better reflect VR headsets. Not like they had a horse in the race or something.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Daniel-san compared it vs the 3080 12GB. 4070 is impressive in performance per watt. The 3080 is often using almost twice the power. Speaking for myself, that's a massive advantage. Cool and quiet are at the top of my checklist for parts shopping. One power connector regardless of which one, is appealing to me as well.

 

[Dribble]

I am laughing at all of the astroturfers. We now have incontrovertible evidence the Steam survey is worthless garbage. The number one language of simple Chinese and 3060 skyrocketing to the top all turned out to be nonsense. Well, worse nonsense than how the data is usually represented. It demonstrates the shenanigans in the way the data is collected, just as I and others hypothesized.

They fixed the Chinese gaming cafe problem after it was discovered. No one said it was perfect, but other then one fixed bug you haven't shown why it's so broken. Every single anti steam survey thread ends up with the same "well it never surveys me" echo chamber and no quantifiable proof of anything. There is however proof of Nvidia's sales in things like JPR sales information.

Sorry but all the steam hate just sounds like a lot of empty rage, mostly based around forum users wanting AMD gpu's to be more popular then they actually are.