4070 reviews thread

[BFG10K]

As expected, 3080 performance, +2GB, -$100, much lower power usage. Certainly the first reasonable Lovelace I think.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Founders Edition Review

NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 4070 launches today. In this review we're taking a look at the Founders Edition, which sells at the baseline MSRP of $600. NVIDIA's new FE is a beauty, and its dual-slot design is compact enough to fit into all cases. In terms of performance, the card can match RTX 3080...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[fleshconsumed]

As I said in another thread, if it performs as 3080, then it's essentially nvidia giving us 2GB more RAM for $100 less 2 years later. That's hardly worth getting excited about.

 

[Golgatha]

I feel like the only card in nVidia's RTX 4000 series lineup that's not purely a software upgrade is the RTX 4090 at this point.

 

[Saylick]

Some leaked benches puts it right inline with the 3080 10 GB, so after 2.5 years later you get the same card with 2 more GB, $100 cheaper, lower TDP, and DLSS3.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 matches GeForce RTX 3080 in leaked tests - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA RTX 4070 non-Ti has been tested First unofficial benchmarks of the RTX 4070 emerge. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Founders Edition, Source: David Giannis Following our leak featuring NVIDIA official performance claims, we finally got to see some early and important data from independent...

videocardz.com

 

[Golgatha]

Some leaked benches puts it right inline with the 3080 10 GB, so after 2.5 years later you get the same card with 2 more GB, $100 cheaper, lower TDP, and DLSS3.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 matches GeForce RTX 3080 in leaked tests - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA RTX 4070 non-Ti has been tested First unofficial benchmarks of the RTX 4070 emerge. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Founders Edition, Source: David Giannis Following our leak featuring NVIDIA official performance claims, we finally got to see some early and important data from independent...

videocardz.com

So a software upgrade, as most anyone can get a used 3080 for $500-600 dollars.

 

[In2Photos]

Is anyone really excited about this launch, honestly? I think this is the first time in a while where I couldn't care less about what the performance is or anything.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Is anyone really excited about this launch, honestly? I think this is the first time in a while where I couldn't care less about what the performance is or anything.

If the FE is indeed $599 it will sell out quickly. Nvidia knows their customers; they have carefully crafted pricing to corral gamers into buying this GPU. It is not a power hungry card either, so that is another selling point. What are gamers going to do, consider buying AMD? Get real.

 

[kondziowy]

Something has changed for me too. After 3000 series which I think was bad, I was just tired of watching the same performance for the same money, and for the first time I didn't care at all about 4000 series. GPUs stopped being exciting for me Switch 2 is the only gaming thing that excites me.

 

[In2Photos]

If the FE is indeed $599 it will sell out quickly. Nvidia knows their customers; they have carefully crafted pricing to corral gamers into buying this GPU. It is not a power hungry card either, so that is another selling point. What are gamers going to do, consider buying AMD? Get real.

No I realize that Sheeple are going to buy it. But in the past I've been excited about new releases even if I wasn't buying it. But this series of GPUs from NVidia (and AMD to this point) just sucks. The 4090 performs well, but it's freakin huge and cost a boat load. The 4080 is the same size and just kind of meh. 4070Ti too. The 7900XTX is the only card that moves the needle at all for me and it barely lifts off of the peg.

 

[Ranulf]

Some leaked benches puts it right inline with the 3080 10 GB, so after 2.5 years later you get the same card with 2 more GB, $100 cheaper, lower TDP, and DLSS3.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 matches GeForce RTX 3080 in leaked tests - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA RTX 4070 non-Ti has been tested First unofficial benchmarks of the RTX 4070 emerge. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Founders Edition, Source: David Giannis Following our leak featuring NVIDIA official performance claims, we finally got to see some early and important data from independent...

videocardz.com

A comment from that article that I think sums it up nicely:

GTX 970: Cost $329 vs the previous-gen GTX 780 Ti's MSRP of $699 while offering comparable performance.

GTX 1070: Cost $379 vs the previous-gen GTX 980 Ti's MSRP of $649 while offering comparable performance.

RTX 2070: Cost $499 vs the previous-gen GTX 1080 Ti's MSRP of $699 while offering less performance (around 5-10% slower, but MUH TRACED RAYS!)

RTX 3070: Costs $499 vs the previous-gen RTX 2080 Ti's MSRP of $999 while offering comparable performance.

RTX 4070: Costs $599 vs the previous-gen RTX 3090's MSRP of $1500, without offering comparable performance. It actually roughly matches the $699 RTX 3080.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Something has changed for me too. After 3000 series which I think was bad, I was just tired of watching the same performance for the same money, and for the first time I didn't care at all about 4000 series. GPUs stopped being exciting for me Switch 2 is the only gaming thing that excites me.

Wish it would hurry up and get here so I could get a 60 fps version of Shin Megami Tensei V. I'm such a nut for the SMT series but the constant PC port rumors have kept me from playing it on at 30 fps on my dinky Switch that I have barely touched the last couple of years except for the occasional round of Untitled Goose Game or some Mario Tennis Aces. Guessing Nintendo will make people double dip to get a 60 fps BOTW but thank god for Cemu. Probably no alternative but double dipping for Tears of the Kingdom though. Not a chance it'll be backward compatible with Switch since that's always a great vector for exploiting a system.

 

[BFG10K]

Is anyone really excited about this launch, honestly?

Not me, but it's probably going to be the only reasonable Lovelace, unless by some miracle the 4060/4060TI have more than 8GB and/or are dirt cheap.

The only reasonable Turing was 2060 12GB and 2070, and the only reasonable Ampere was 3050 and 3060. Everything else was too expensive, too power hungry and/or had Eunuch VRAM relative to performance.

Meanwhile most of the entire Pascal line was great: 1050TI, 1060, 1070, 1080 and especially the 1080TI.

"Wray traycing" is directly responsible for causing a massive dump of Elephant excrement onto consumers, like the 2060 6GB, 2080 Super and 3070TI.

 

[BFG10K]

Reviews are in!

 

[SteveGrabowski]

What a joke, the 4070 is weaker than the 3080 10GB. Techpowerup has the 3080 10GB ahead 5% at 4k vs the 4070.

 

[jpiniero]

What a joke, the 4070 is weaker than the 3080 10GB. Techpowerup has the 3080 10GB ahead 5% at 4k vs the 4070.

I was going to say that perhaps it is a memory bandwidth issue... but the 4070 Ti is doing OK there. But they did cut the L2.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I was going to say that perhaps it is a memory bandwidth issue... but the 4070 Ti is doing OK there. But they did cut the L2.

4070 Ti seems to have the same Achilles heel getting spanked by the 3090 Ti at 4k while being basically on par at lower resolutions. What a joke the 4070 getting beaten by 5% by the bad 3080. That means the good 3080 12GB is likely up 10-15% on the 4070 at 4k.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Nvidia is like Trump, everything they say that sounds good is a lie while when they tell you something bad they're going to do, eg that the days of price to performance gains are over, you can take it to the bank because they mean it.

P&N is thataway 🡰. Please help us keep it there.
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[AtenRa]

RTX 3070 MSRP/price vs RTX 2070 Super

3070 = 25% lower cost per frame vs 2070

RTX 4070 MSRP/price vs RTX 3070

4070 = 8.5% lower cost per frame vs 3070

 

[Heartbreaker]

This forums opinions are always good for laughs.

Again forum declares, another total NVida failure, that back in the real world will be a big success.

 

[AtenRa]

This forums opinions are always good for laughs.

Again forum declares, another total NVida failure, that back in the real world will be a big success.

People that know about Hardware is just a very small minority of the people that just buy hardware.

So no surprises that 4070 will sell well

 

[SteveGrabowski]

People that know about Hardware is just a very small minority of the people that just buy hardware.

So no surprises that 4070 will sell well

Nvidia 70 series gpus are often next to impossible to get at launch eg the 970, 1070, and 3070. Kind of doubt this happens with the 4070 though with its dinky gains to price to performance vs the 3080.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

This forums opinions are always good for laughs.

Again forum declares, another total NVida failure, that back in the real world will be a big success.

Meh 970, 1070, 3070 were big successes, with demand so high it was next to impossible to get them at launch. Are you predicting that with the 4070 too?

 

[blckgrffn]

I think at $499 this would have been a banging card. Not that I would have been that excited about it, but 3080 performance with less space heater issues and just getting to the for-now magical 12GB frame buffer number would have been something.

Now you can have to consider a used 3090, which is going to last longer unless it actually dies, lets be honest, or a new/AIB 4070.

I am disappointed at how hard it was cut and the price of it, but yeah, it's fine I guess.

That said, the nvidia biased Ars preview comment thread is full people recommending the AMD options of 6800XT or 6950XT. I'd say that is a sign that the nvidia mind control is definitely weakening. They have to play their cards for the most money they can get but maybe they are finally starting to cut too deep. If they feel it, I have hopes that the 5xxx series might be another of what the 3xxx series was intended to be but COVID/Eth destroyed.

Also, if you were the type of buyer thinking that the 3070/3070ti was your sweet spot, this is a solid upgrade. The fewer of those over powered GPUs stuck with "tiny" frame buffers the better.

 

[fleshconsumed]

LOL indeed, at least 3070 was almost as fast as 2080ti, it actually would have been a good card for its generation if it had 16GB ram.

nvidia is just doing bare minimum at this point. Get 6800XT instead, it's cheaper, more RAM, will last you longer than nvidia.

 

[In2Photos]

The 3070 still can't be bought for its MSRP of $500 and its replacement was just launched.

Let's also not forget that had Nvidia released the 4070Ti as the 4080 12GB, this 4070 likely would have been the 4070Ti!!!