How long do you have to own a 4080 before it starts to save you money. Because math.
Best buy and the late circuit city where known for pulling similar tricks before the dawn of the smartphone including a fake intranet page at the store if you wanted to price match. It sounds like there's a token handoff in your email from nvidia to click on that hands off a unique identifier or token to best buy to allow you to buy something that was otherwise showing as sold out.Well, I thought it was interesting because Best Buy kept showing that nothing was in stock, yet I was provided an offer to buy something. I looked into the offer, and yes... going to Best Buy without the link showed absolutely no 4080 stock, but with the link, I was able to buy any 4080 that I wanted. In fact, clicking the filter option to pick up that day in my local store showed that I could get two models (FE and a Gigabyte one) the same day.
They would have sold the 4080's if it was released before the 4090, so in reality it's the 4090 that truely killed the 4080's sales. Like others said no value buyers > $1000, so nearly all the 4080's potential buyers not surprisingly got a 4090 instead. Imo there is room for 1 card above $1000.
Not really what? You literally stated what I said.Not really. For long time have been solely Nvidia (mostly xx80 cards). The 4090 went up 10% which is OK by me, but not the ridiculous 42% rise on the 4080. Jensens presumptive "they will buy it with a smile on their faces" is too much of an insult to me.
"Not really" means I automatically go for Nvidia each gen. I was one of those 70% ... until now.Not really what? You literally stated what I said.
This is, by far, the best 4080 review yet! 😂
I doubt it. I just checked Newegg's RTX 4080 inventory and they are completely out of stock so it is definitely selling. Amazon still have stock but it's dwindling rapidly.
But anyone thinking or hoping the RTX 4080 isn't going to sell well is in for a rude awakening. The RTX 4080 is a solid high end card with exceptional performance per watt and great overall performance and feature set. It's more suited to 2K than 4K though.
The thing though is that these companies are in it to make money so you can't really blame them for raising prices when they are the only game in town and there's such a high demand for their products that people are STILL willing to pay exorbitant fees. That's just supply and demand.
This screen was especially telling of nVidia's greed.
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Just a reminder that the GTX 580 was the full size Fermi die. All of the subsequent x80 GPUs after the 580 were cut down dies to some degree.
580 is the last uncut big die. They were all either cut or not the big die. That's what he meant by full size.Not all. Only half were to my recollection.
580: GF110 (full)
680: GK104 (full)
780: GK110 (really cut down)
980: GM104 (full)
1080: GP104 (full)
2080: TU104 (cut down)
3080: GA102 (really cut down)
580 is the last uncut big die. They were all either cut or not the big die. That's what he meant by full size.
That newegg in the USA is sold out now, doesn't mean they aren't selling much slower than past releases, especially around the world. Go watch HWUB video I linked on previous page. He acknowledged they were selling a bit better in the USA(but still slow), but they really weren't moving in the rest of the world.
But it has poor perf/$. The normal situation is that the top card like the 4090 would have the worse perf/$, and the next step down would have much better perf/$, but that isn't the case here. At best the 4080 only ties the 4090 for perf/$ and in may even be worse, which is a sign it's a ripoff.
I suspect NVIDIA and scalpers are partially to blame for this. Scalpers hoping to make some quick money on Christmas sales probably scooped up the 4090. NVIDIA probably did not produce enough 4090 chips to meet demand. They misjudged the number of people that are willing to pay a premium. They likely created far more 4080s because they figured that is where the market would be. People claim they made the 4080 in order to upsell the 4090, but I don't think so.
After that, sales of top end cards won't be so rosy, and we may even see cheaper pricing as a result.
Ada is the first radical departure for Nvidia buyers in that price range to not find something suitable vs the competition. And is exactly is why many of them may make the break with Nv and go AMD this time around.This screen was especially telling of nVidia's greed.
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The rest of the World has to deal with import taxes and VAT, so that definitely inflates the price significantly and makes it much more difficult to justify buying; especially with the RTX 4090 being an option. I think the average VAT for the E.U is around 20%, which must hurt a lot.
It does hurt a lot, but a key factor is that the euro dropped in value compared to the dollar. The euro used to be about 20% stronger, so about the VAT. So it seemed like you paid the same price as the US, because the exchange rate compensated for the VAT. That is no longer the case.
And energy prices have always been higher in the EU, in no small part due to heavy taxation, which means that the rising energy costs hurts Europeans more than Americans as well.
It's even worse when you consider die size/segmentation for 3080 to 4080. xx-102 to xx-103, 628mm2 to 379mm2.This screen was especially telling of nVidia's greed.
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It does hurt a lot, but a key factor is that the euro dropped in value compared to the dollar. The euro used to be about 20% stronger, so about the VAT. So it seemed like you paid the same price as the US, because the exchange rate compensated for the VAT. That is no longer the case.
And energy prices have always been higher in the EU, in no small part due to heavy taxation, which means that the rising energy costs hurts Europeans more than Americans as well.
It has nice performance but nice price also.NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Graphics Card Review Roundup | VideoCardz.com
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It's pretty underwhelming. Might be tough for it to stick at $1199, even factoring nVidia.
I doubt it. I just checked Newegg's RTX 4080 inventory and they are completely out of stock so it is definitely selling. Amazon still have stock but it's dwindling rapidly.
The best place to get an RTX 480 would be a local brick and mortar store rather than any of the large online e-tailers that hardware enthusiasts and gamers frequent.
But anyone thinking or hoping the RTX 4080 isn't going to sell well is in for a rude awakening. The RTX 4080 is a solid high end card with exceptional performance per watt and great overall performance and feature set. It's more suited to 2K than 4K though.
Price and value are subject to market forces, and currently, they are not in favor of the consumer. Lack of strong competition, high demand and product scarcity are going to drive up prices. When RDNA3 becomes available and if it performs well enough, Nvidia may have to lower the prices.