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[Kalbi]

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey

Originally posted by: Kalbi
TO SOUTHPAW:

The top 1% of income earners pay about 32% of all income taxes. The top 5% pays 51.4%. ... (Top 50% of Wage Earners Pay 96.09% of Income Taxes).

the top 50% also makes 87% of all income.

Right...so poor people should stfu because they don't pay any taxes. They are freeriding off the rest of us productive members of the system.

 

[funboy6942]

WTF I am not schooled, but disabled. I can walk but for short distances for right now. My back is desinergrating to the point I wont be able to wipe my own a$$.
Which at that point I can get on SSI wee hee.

After giving up everything and being left to do for the rest of my life but sit here and play games, go on the internet that is wrong. Buy trade or sell the suff so I dont use any real money up to keep me occupied.

Who cares that I cant go out, go to the park, ride a bike, drive my car, go on trips, make love to my wife, play with my childreen, tech my childreen how to play ball, skip, jump rope, cook dinner, clean dishes, do the work I used to before I got hurt, go shopping, fly a kite, do all the things I used to take for granted down to the point I can do my computer, play some games, and take a sh!t that with your thinking the money I send on keeping me active in some way will all of a sudden pull us out of poverty, pay for my wife's and my schooling, pay for insurance and all the rest of the bull. The I can turn off the internet and fvcking sit here with my thumb up my a$$ and wait to die or dwell on our situation even more and do nothing at all because thats just it I CANT DO ANYTHING!. In order to get said white collor job I NEED TO GET TRAINED FOR THE JOB WHICH MEANS I NEED TO GO TO SCHOOL!!!!!!!!! I CANT AFFORD TO GO TO SCOOL OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS NEEDED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF TO ALLOW ME TO DO SUCH AND THE LITTLE I SPENT ON MYSELF AND MY FAMILY WITH SELLING OF MY PERSONAL BELONGINS WOULDNT DO ANYTHING MORE THEN WELFAIR IS DOING WHICH IS KEEPING ME ALIVE. I sell the stuff I will become quite bored and still SCREWED in the same POSITION I AM IN NOW!!!!!!!!!


I can see you nit picking if I wast disabled but damnit man I need to do something or I will dwell on my situation and take my lfe or the life of others. How can you tell someone not to do anything at all when he has had his life taken from him???

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: funboy42
WTF I am not schooled, but disabled. I can walk but for short distances for right now. My back is desinergrating to the point I wont be able to wipe my own a$$.
Which at that point I can get on SSI wee hee.

After giving up everything and being left to do for the rest of my life but sit here and play games, go on the internet that is wrong. Buy trade or sell the suff so I dont use any real money up to keep me occupied.

Who cares that I cant go out, go to the park, ride a bike, drive my car, go on trips, make love to my wife, play with my childreen, tech my childreen how to play ball, skip, jump rope, cook dinner, clean dishes, do the work I used to before I got hurt, go shopping, fly a kite, do all the things I used to take for granted down to the point I can do my computer, play some games, and take a sh!t that with your thinking the money I send on keeping me active in some way will all of a sudden pull us out of poverty, pay for my wife's and my schooling, pay for insurance and all the rest of the bull. The I can turn off the internet and fvcking sit here with my thumb up my a$$ and wait to die or dwell on our situation even more and do nothing at all because thats just it I CANT DO ANYTHING!. In order to get said white collor job I NEED TO GET TRAINED FOR THE JOB WHICH MEANS I NEED TO GO TO SCHOOL!!!!!!!!! I CANT AFFORD TO GO TO SCOOL OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS NEEDED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF TO ALLOW ME TO DO SUCH AND THE LITTLE I SPENT ON MYSELF AND MY FAMILY WITH SELLING OF MY PERSONAL BELONGINS WOULDNT DO ANYTHING MORE THEN WELFAIR IS DOING WHICH IS KEEPING ME ALIVE. I sell the stuff I will become quite bored and still SCREWED in the same POSITION I AM IN NOW!!!!!!!!!


I can see you nit picking if I wast disabled but damnit man I need to do something or I will dwell on my situation and take my lfe or the life of others. How can you tell someone not to do anything at all when he has had his life taken from him???

I'm going to ask again, didn't you just get a rather large disability settlement, with which you're buying a house?

 

[mordantmonkey]

Originally posted by: Kalbi

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey

Originally posted by: Kalbi
TO SOUTHPAW:

The top 1% of income earners pay about 32% of all income taxes. The top 5% pays 51.4%. ... (Top 50% of Wage Earners Pay 96.09% of Income Taxes).

the top 50% also makes 87% of all income.

Right...so poor people should stfu because they don't pay any taxes. They are freeriding
off the rest of us productive members of the system.

how do you define productive? or worth?
i know a VP who is a complete moron, doesn't do jack, is out golfing most of the time. he got where he's at because his daddy runs a large company that keeps it's business here. he is in the top %10. way more productive than that guy busting his ass bussing tables at the restaraunt mr.VP takes his 2hour lunches at.

but you're right he makes more money so he's worth more.
i mean einstein didn't make nearly as much as Sammy Haggar. so i think Haggar definately has more worth in our society.

 

[Kalbi]

Originally posted by: funboy42
WTF I am not schooled, but disabled. I can walk but for short distances for right now. My back is desinergrating to the point I wont be able to wipe my own a$$.
Which at that point I can get on SSI wee hee.

After giving up everything and being left to do for the rest of my life but sit here and play games, go on the internet that is wrong. Buy trade or sell the suff so I dont use any real money up to keep me occupied.

Who cares that I cant go out, go to the park, ride a bike, drive my car, go on trips, make love to my wife, play with my childreen, tech my childreen how to play ball, skip, jump rope, cook dinner, clean dishes, do the work I used to before I got hurt, go shopping, fly a kite, do all the things I used to take for granted down to the point I can do my computer, play some games, and take a sh!t that with your thinking the money I send on keeping me active in some way will all of a sudden pull us out of poverty, pay for my wife's and my schooling, pay for insurance and all the rest of the bull. The I can turn off the internet and fvcking sit here with my thumb up my a$$ and wait to die or dwell on our situation even more and do nothing at all because thats just it I CANT DO ANYTHING!. In order to get said white collor job I NEED TO GET TRAINED FOR THE JOB WHICH MEANS I NEED TO GO TO SCHOOL!!!!!!!!! I CANT AFFORD TO GO TO SCOOL OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS NEEDED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF TO ALLOW ME TO DO SUCH AND THE LITTLE I SPENT ON MYSELF AND MY FAMILY WITH SELLING OF MY PERSONAL BELONGINS WOULDNT DO ANYTHING MORE THEN WELFAIR IS DOING WHICH IS KEEPING ME ALIVE. I sell the stuff I will become quite bored and still SCREWED in the same POSITION I AM IN NOW!!!!!!!!!


I can see you nit picking if I wast disabled but damnit man I need to do something or I will dwell on my situation and take my lfe or the life of others. How can you tell someone not to do anything at all when he has had his life taken from him???

You think I could have paid cash to go to school? No, I took out loans, worked, and got lucky in the stock market. I never asked anything from anyone and I'm making well over the "median household income" my first year out of college. Ask most of the people here, especially the immigrants, they have the same story as me.

If you can walk, sit on your ass, work the computer, access the internet, then your ass has enough to get a job. Illegal mexicans who can't read, add, subtract, speak english have jobs. Doesn't that make you feel like just a big man?

 

[Kalbi]

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey

Originally posted by: Kalbi

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey

Originally posted by: Kalbi
TO SOUTHPAW:

The top 1% of income earners pay about 32% of all income taxes. The top 5% pays 51.4%. ... (Top 50% of Wage Earners Pay 96.09% of Income Taxes).

the top 50% also makes 87% of all income.

Right...so poor people should stfu because they don't pay any taxes. They are freeriding
off the rest of us productive members of the system.

how do you define productive? or worth?
i know a VP who is a complete moron, doesn't do jack, is out golfing most of the time. he got where he's at because his daddy runs a large company that keeps it's business here. he is in the top %10. way more productive than that guy busting his ass bussing tables at the restaraunt mr.VP takes his 2hour lunches at.

but you're right he makes more money so he's worth more.
i mean einstein didn't make nearly as much as Sammy Haggar. so i think Haggar definately has more worth in our society.

So every VP in America got his job from daddy? You take one example and blanket it across the entire population...

 

[funboy6942]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: funboy42
WTF I am not schooled, but disabled. I can walk but for short distances for right now. My back is desinergrating to the point I wont be able to wipe my own a$$.
Which at that point I can get on SSI wee hee.

After giving up everything and being left to do for the rest of my life but sit here and play games, go on the internet that is wrong. Buy trade or sell the suff so I dont use any real money up to keep me occupied.

Who cares that I cant go out, go to the park, ride a bike, drive my car, go on trips, make love to my wife, play with my childreen, tech my childreen how to play ball, skip, jump rope, cook dinner, clean dishes, do the work I used to before I got hurt, go shopping, fly a kite, do all the things I used to take for granted down to the point I can do my computer, play some games, and take a sh!t that with your thinking the money I send on keeping me active in some way will all of a sudden pull us out of poverty, pay for my wife's and my schooling, pay for insurance and all the rest of the bull. The I can turn off the internet and fvcking sit here with my thumb up my a$$ and wait to die or dwell on our situation even more and do nothing at all because thats just it I CANT DO ANYTHING!. In order to get said white collor job I NEED TO GET TRAINED FOR THE JOB WHICH MEANS I NEED TO GO TO SCHOOL!!!!!!!!! I CANT AFFORD TO GO TO SCOOL OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS NEEDED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF TO ALLOW ME TO DO SUCH AND THE LITTLE I SPENT ON MYSELF AND MY FAMILY WITH SELLING OF MY PERSONAL BELONGINS WOULDNT DO ANYTHING MORE THEN WELFAIR IS DOING WHICH IS KEEPING ME ALIVE. I sell the stuff I will become quite bored and still SCREWED in the same POSITION I AM IN NOW!!!!!!!!!


I can see you nit picking if I wast disabled but damnit man I need to do something or I will dwell on my situation and take my lfe or the life of others. How can you tell someone not to do anything at all when he has had his life taken from him???

I'm going to ask again, didn't you just get a rather large disability settlement, with which you're buying a house with?

I havent gotten it yet I am still waiting for it. But I am trying to defend myself to the few that think I shouldnt be allowed to do anything. I love the comment that I should go ride a bike. I was trying to just make a point where some people need help like we did to get educated to accomodate my disability. Granted once the check comes I will be taken out of my situation because I will have a house with an office, I willacually have enough left over so that I can afford to get better education for myself and my wife or invest into a stay at home position.

Everyones story is different. Yes there are some because of thier situation were able to do better. But just because they were able to do it BECAUSE of thier unique situation doesnt mean EVERYONE is like them. Before I got hurt I was making 32K a year and starting to better ourself. My only education I have is truck driving and manual labor. For me to do an at home job now I need space and a education. Please tell me what online job I can do with kids screaming and playing in the background that doesnt requier more then a high school education. OH and lets not forget I suck at typing and making sentances. That jsut wouldnt happen here right now but with the check coming it will.

But I am done. Pelople or kids just think they have the answer to everything and I am greatfull to been given the chance coming up to better ourselves to the point we will hopefully never need welfair again.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: funboy42
WTF I am not schooled, but disabled. I can walk but for short distances for right now. My back is desinergrating to the point I wont be able to wipe my own a$$.
Which at that point I can get on SSI wee hee.

After giving up everything and being left to do for the rest of my life but sit here and play games, go on the internet that is wrong. Buy trade or sell the suff so I dont use any real money up to keep me occupied.

Who cares that I cant go out, go to the park, ride a bike, drive my car, go on trips, make love to my wife, play with my childreen, tech my childreen how to play ball, skip, jump rope, cook dinner, clean dishes, do the work I used to before I got hurt, go shopping, fly a kite, do all the things I used to take for granted down to the point I can do my computer, play some games, and take a sh!t that with your thinking the money I send on keeping me active in some way will all of a sudden pull us out of poverty, pay for my wife's and my schooling, pay for insurance and all the rest of the bull. The I can turn off the internet and fvcking sit here with my thumb up my a$$ and wait to die or dwell on our situation even more and do nothing at all because thats just it I CANT DO ANYTHING!. In order to get said white collor job I NEED TO GET TRAINED FOR THE JOB WHICH MEANS I NEED TO GO TO SCHOOL!!!!!!!!! I CANT AFFORD TO GO TO SCOOL OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS NEEDED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF TO ALLOW ME TO DO SUCH AND THE LITTLE I SPENT ON MYSELF AND MY FAMILY WITH SELLING OF MY PERSONAL BELONGINS WOULDNT DO ANYTHING MORE THEN WELFAIR IS DOING WHICH IS KEEPING ME ALIVE. I sell the stuff I will become quite bored and still SCREWED in the same POSITION I AM IN NOW!!!!!!!!!


I can see you nit picking if I wast disabled but damnit man I need to do something or I will dwell on my situation and take my lfe or the life of others. How can you tell someone not to do anything at all when he has had his life taken from him???

The average community college in this country costs $2000.

You know, if you got rid of internet access, your logitech racing weel, your real race g2 whatever that is, your psp and all your games, your tv wonder and capture cards, your 9800 pro, your minoltra camera, your PS2 and all your games, your laptop, and all the other crap in your heatware you might be able to afford some night time classes for the wife?

I'll go off on a limb and venture that your system rig is a nice athlon 64 system. :disgust:

 

[ivol07]

Originally posted by: funboy42
WTF I am not schooled, but disabled. I can walk but for short distances for right now. My back is desinergrating to the point I wont be able to wipe my own a$$.
Which at that point I can get on SSI wee hee.

After giving up everything and being left to do for the rest of my life but sit here and play games, go on the internet that is wrong. Buy trade or sell the suff so I dont use any real money up to keep me occupied.

Who cares that I cant go out, go to the park, ride a bike, drive my car, go on trips, make love to my wife, play with my childreen, tech my childreen how to play ball, skip, jump rope, cook dinner, clean dishes, do the work I used to before I got hurt, go shopping, fly a kite, do all the things I used to take for granted down to the point I can do my computer, play some games, and take a sh!t that with your thinking the money I send on keeping me active in some way will all of a sudden pull us out of poverty, pay for my wife's and my schooling, pay for insurance and all the rest of the bull. The I can turn off the internet and fvcking sit here with my thumb up my a$$ and wait to die or dwell on our situation even more and do nothing at all because thats just it I CANT DO ANYTHING!. In order to get said white collor job I NEED TO GET TRAINED FOR THE JOB WHICH MEANS I NEED TO GO TO SCHOOL!!!!!!!!! I CANT AFFORD TO GO TO SCOOL OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS NEEDED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF TO ALLOW ME TO DO SUCH AND THE LITTLE I SPENT ON MYSELF AND MY FAMILY WITH SELLING OF MY PERSONAL BELONGINS WOULDNT DO ANYTHING MORE THEN WELFAIR IS DOING WHICH IS KEEPING ME ALIVE. I sell the stuff I will become quite bored and still SCREWED in the same POSITION I AM IN NOW!!!!!!!!!


I can see you nit picking if I wast disabled but damnit man I need to do something or I will dwell on my situation and take my lfe or the life of others. How can you tell someone not to do anything at all when he has had his life taken from him???

You said you're in Indiana, right?

People with Disabilities - Vocational Rehabilitation Services (VRS)

Eligibility

Persons eligible for vocational rehabilitation services include

persons who have a physical or mental impairment;
persons whose impairment constitutes or results in a substantial impediment to employment;
persons who can benefit in terms of an employment outcome from the provision of vocational rehabilitation services and
persons who require services to help prepare for gainful employment

Rehabilitation Program Development

The counselor and consumer jointly determine the job the consumer is ultimately to be placed in and plan the services necessary to reach that job goal. The job goal, intermediate objectives, services, and service providers are specified in an Individualized Plan for Employment (IPE).

Provision of Services - Services are provided in accordance with the IPE. The specific services provided may include:

vocational counseling and guidance;
medical treatment to correct or modify the physical or mental impairment;
training (including vocational school, college or university, on-the-job, and other training;
rehabilitation technology (assistive devices and services);
placement assistance and follow-up (including supported employment) and
other planned goods and services determined to be necessary to address an identified substantial impediment to employment and to be required to enable the individual to prepare for, enter, engage in, or retain an employment outcome.

Hope this helps.

 

[mordantmonkey]

Originally posted by: Kalbi

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey

Originally posted by: Kalbi

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey

Originally posted by: Kalbi
TO SOUTHPAW:

The top 1% of income earners pay about 32% of all income taxes. The top 5% pays 51.4%. ... (Top 50% of Wage Earners Pay 96.09% of Income Taxes).

the top 50% also makes 87% of all income.

Right...so poor people should stfu because they don't pay any taxes. They are freeriding
off the rest of us productive members of the system.

how do you define productive? or worth?
i know a VP who is a complete moron, doesn't do jack, is out golfing most of the time. he got where he's at because his daddy runs a large company that keeps it's business here. he is in the top %10. way more productive than that guy busting his ass bussing tables at the restaraunt mr.VP takes his 2hour lunches at.

but you're right he makes more money so he's worth more.
i mean einstein didn't make nearly as much as Sammy Haggar. so i think Haggar definately has more worth in our society.

So every VP in America got his job from daddy? You take one example and blanket it across the entire population...

so how do you define productive? if i work all day providing a service, is that not productive? let's take a garbage man. they are in the lower %50 of income earners. they are providing a much needed service. they don't have a lot of sitting around time.
so how are they not "productive members of the system"?

are you assuming that low paying jobs don't require you to do any work?

 

[funboy6942]

Originally posted by: Kalbi

Originally posted by: funboy42
WTF I am not schooled, but disabled. I can walk but for short distances for right now. My back is desinergrating to the point I wont be able to wipe my own a$$.
Which at that point I can get on SSI wee hee.

After giving up everything and being left to do for the rest of my life but sit here and play games, go on the internet that is wrong. Buy trade or sell the suff so I dont use any real money up to keep me occupied.

Who cares that I cant go out, go to the park, ride a bike, drive my car, go on trips, make love to my wife, play with my childreen, tech my childreen how to play ball, skip, jump rope, cook dinner, clean dishes, do the work I used to before I got hurt, go shopping, fly a kite, do all the things I used to take for granted down to the point I can do my computer, play some games, and take a sh!t that with your thinking the money I send on keeping me active in some way will all of a sudden pull us out of poverty, pay for my wife's and my schooling, pay for insurance and all the rest of the bull. The I can turn off the internet and fvcking sit here with my thumb up my a$$ and wait to die or dwell on our situation even more and do nothing at all because thats just it I CANT DO ANYTHING!. In order to get said white collor job I NEED TO GET TRAINED FOR THE JOB WHICH MEANS I NEED TO GO TO SCHOOL!!!!!!!!! I CANT AFFORD TO GO TO SCOOL OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS NEEDED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF TO ALLOW ME TO DO SUCH AND THE LITTLE I SPENT ON MYSELF AND MY FAMILY WITH SELLING OF MY PERSONAL BELONGINS WOULDNT DO ANYTHING MORE THEN WELFAIR IS DOING WHICH IS KEEPING ME ALIVE. I sell the stuff I will become quite bored and still SCREWED in the same POSITION I AM IN NOW!!!!!!!!!


I can see you nit picking if I wast disabled but damnit man I need to do something or I will dwell on my situation and take my lfe or the life of others. How can you tell someone not to do anything at all when he has had his life taken from him???

You think I could have paid cash to go to school? No, I took out loans, worked, and got lucky in the stock market. I never asked anything from anyone and I'm making well over the "median household income" my first year out of college. Ask most of the people here, especially the immigrants, they have the same story as me.

If you can walk, sit on your ass, work the computer, access the internet, then your ass has enough to get a job. Illegal mexicans who can't read, add, subtract, speak english have jobs. Doesn't that make you feel like just a big man?

Your an idiot.

I cant take out a loan because i dont have the means to pay it back

I CANT WALK

I can barley sit without being it too much pain

If you couldnt tell with my writings I cant work the computer really for crap, nore type or spell correctly

And I have never had any fund in my life to play the stock market.

Again your situation was different then mine. I am also 33 years old married with 2 kids HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!

AND AGAIN your missing the point that if I DID find a job unskilled it wouldnt be enough to pay for the extra car, insurance, day care, or babysitter. What part of that do you not understand. I am unskileed for ANY job right now that requires me to sit and make any kind of living at all.

 

[zendari]

How do you manage to ship out all this stuff you keep buying and selling?

 

[Kalbi]

are you kidding? garbage men make like $80k+ a year. I think it is a fair assumption that the more money you make the more productive you are. I.e. the entrepreneur who took risks and put a lot of effort in the beginning to provide 100 people jobs and provide a service/good to society. He is now sitting in the office surfing the web and you think he's unproductive, but in fact he took risks and put effort into creating the machine you call his business.

 

[funboy6942]

Originally posted by: zendari
How do you manage to ship out all this stuff you keep buying and selling?

For the most part all that I bought or paid for was with posters that I got for free. Sold alot of them on the internet to people around me.

And before you go OMG he has a website I got in on the hotdeals section for $9.95 for the entire year and my friend puts the stuff up for me because I dont know how to do it.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: funboy42

Originally posted by: zendari
How do you manage to ship out all this stuff you keep buying and selling?

For the most part all that I bought or paid for was with posters that I got for free. Sold alot of them on the internet to people around me.

And before you go OMG he has a website I got in on the hotdeals section for $9.95 for the entire year and my friend puts the stuff up for me because I dont know how to do it.

No, I meant physically getting up, pulling part out of your PC, packaging it properly, getting down to the post office or UPS or whatever, shipping it out, and returning to your bedroom? You can't walk, right?

 

[Kalbi]

Originally posted by: funboy42

Originally posted by: Kalbi

Originally posted by: funboy42
WTF I am not schooled, but disabled. I can walk but for short distances for right now. My back is desinergrating to the point I wont be able to wipe my own a$$.
Which at that point I can get on SSI wee hee.

After giving up everything and being left to do for the rest of my life but sit here and play games, go on the internet that is wrong. Buy trade or sell the suff so I dont use any real money up to keep me occupied.

Who cares that I cant go out, go to the park, ride a bike, drive my car, go on trips, make love to my wife, play with my childreen, tech my childreen how to play ball, skip, jump rope, cook dinner, clean dishes, do the work I used to before I got hurt, go shopping, fly a kite, do all the things I used to take for granted down to the point I can do my computer, play some games, and take a sh!t that with your thinking the money I send on keeping me active in some way will all of a sudden pull us out of poverty, pay for my wife's and my schooling, pay for insurance and all the rest of the bull. The I can turn off the internet and fvcking sit here with my thumb up my a$$ and wait to die or dwell on our situation even more and do nothing at all because thats just it I CANT DO ANYTHING!. In order to get said white collor job I NEED TO GET TRAINED FOR THE JOB WHICH MEANS I NEED TO GO TO SCHOOL!!!!!!!!! I CANT AFFORD TO GO TO SCOOL OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS NEEDED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF TO ALLOW ME TO DO SUCH AND THE LITTLE I SPENT ON MYSELF AND MY FAMILY WITH SELLING OF MY PERSONAL BELONGINS WOULDNT DO ANYTHING MORE THEN WELFAIR IS DOING WHICH IS KEEPING ME ALIVE. I sell the stuff I will become quite bored and still SCREWED in the same POSITION I AM IN NOW!!!!!!!!!


I can see you nit picking if I wast disabled but damnit man I need to do something or I will dwell on my situation and take my lfe or the life of others. How can you tell someone not to do anything at all when he has had his life taken from him???

You think I could have paid cash to go to school? No, I took out loans, worked, and got lucky in the stock market. I never asked anything from anyone and I'm making well over the "median household income" my first year out of college. Ask most of the people here, especially the immigrants, they have the same story as me.

If you can walk, sit on your ass, work the computer, access the internet, then your ass has enough to get a job. Illegal mexicans who can't read, add, subtract, speak english have jobs. Doesn't that make you feel like just a big man?

Your an idiot.

I cant take out a loan because i dont have the means to pay it back

I CANT WALK

I can barley sit without being it too much pain

If you couldnt tell with my writings I cant work the computer really for crap, nore type or spell correctly

And I have never had any fund in my life to play the stock market.

Again your situation was different then mine. I am also 33 years old married with 2 kids HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!

AND AGAIN your missing the point that if I DID find a job unskilled it wouldnt be enough to pay for the extra car, insurance, day care, or babysitter. What part of that do you not understand. I am unskileed for ANY job right now that requires me to sit and make any kind of living at all.

Well you are too stupid to understand how student loans work. A lot of the interest is subsidized by the government and the rate on it once you graduate is at 2-3%.

Why do you feel like you are entitled to an extra car, day care or babysitter for your kids without paying for it? When we first immigrated my parents shared one car (beat ass $500 Ford), and I never went to day care or had a babysitter. What is with your entitlement attitude? Don't you get it? You have to WORK in order to get these conveniences in life.

Plenty of people in college are "older" and have families, yet they have the balls to take the risk in getting an education because they know it will help them in the long run. We have laws in place for handicaps like you so you can access buildings and not get discriminated against.

And you talk of pain? What, back pains? Try the pain you get from working 80 hours a week. Try the pain of a disease. Try the pain of losing a loved one. Try the pain of sitting in your home during the riots scared to death. Try the pain of the business you risked to start being torn down and looted because some stupid ass cops beat a dumbass PCP juiced crack addict refusing their orders. It's a sad day when a man in America is not grateful for the life and family he has.

Pain is being sent to a North Korean political concentration camp because you talked shvt about the goverment. Pain is the guards beating you with a stick for fun until just before you die. Pain is catching a rat and tasting the meat to be heavenly. Pain is the whole population of N. Korea getting a thumb tip of rice per day. Pain is going into the forest to find tree bark to eat to alleviate your hunger.

You know nothing of pain. You are the typical "spoiled American" who does not know hard work. You probably fvcked around in high school and didn't do shvt for life, and now you realize everyone around you is successful and you are too bitter to admit it was mostly your own doing.

Be lucky your wife is still with you, and you have 2 kids who love you.

 

[mordantmonkey]

Originally posted by: Kalbi
are you kidding? garbage men make like $80k+ a year. I think it is a fair assumption that the more money you make the more productive you are. I.e. the entrepreneur who took risks and put a lot of effort in the beginning to provide 100 people jobs and provide a service/good to society. He is now sitting in the office surfing the web and you think he's unproductive, but in fact he took risks and put effort into creating the machine you call his business.

garbage men don't make 80K a year. maybe in some select places. but for the most part they do not. my friend used to be a garbage man..he made $32,000 a year and that was with over-time. there are also many other low-wage hard working, essential jobs. fruit picking for one.
i never mentioned this hypothetical man you speak of that created his own business. but since you bring it up. so your saying that taking an initial risk is what makes one persons time worth more than another's? but if that risk and hard work fails (business never gets off the ground), then their time is no longer worth more?
so i guess worth is some kind of economic casino game where the ultimate indictor is money?

 

[funboy6942]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: funboy42

Originally posted by: zendari
How do you manage to ship out all this stuff you keep buying and selling?

For the most part all that I bought or paid for was with posters that I got for free. Sold alot of them on the internet to people around me.

And before you go OMG he has a website I got in on the hotdeals section for $9.95 for the entire year and my friend puts the stuff up for me because I dont know how to do it.

No, I meant physically getting up, pulling part out of your PC, packaging it properly, getting down to the post office or UPS or whatever, shipping it out, and returning to your bedroom? You can't walk, right?

I am sorry I thought you were wondering about the funds. My wife and oldest helped me out. She would ship out on saturday or after work. She would also help with the packing. I would try to do as much as I could here on my desk and my computer sits on my desk within arms reach. But for the most part she would put the box together for me and set it on a table lamp I have sitting next to me so I could finish. But all my money orders I got were all made out to her so when she shipped she could cash them for me and I encourage you to emails some I delt with as see who they mailed a money order to but made out to whom.

 

[FoBoT]

oh my, i feel so rich

 

[Kalbi]

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey

Originally posted by: Kalbi
are you kidding? garbage men make like $80k+ a year. I think it is a fair assumption that the more money you make the more productive you are. I.e. the entrepreneur who took risks and put a lot of effort in the beginning to provide 100 people jobs and provide a service/good to society. He is now sitting in the office surfing the web and you think he's unproductive, but in fact he took risks and put effort into creating the machine you call his business.

garbage men don't make 80K a year. maybe in some select places. but for the most part they do not. my friend used to be a garbage man..he made $32,000 a year and that was with over-time. there are also many other low-wage hard working, essential jobs. fruit picking for one.
i never mentioned this hypothetical man you speak of that created his own business. but since you bring it up. so your saying that taking an initial risk is what makes one persons time worth more than another's? but if that risk and hard work fails (business never gets off the ground), then their time is no longer worth more?
so i guess worth is some kind of economic casino game where the ultimate indictor is money?

Yea, it's called capitalism. Get with it.

One of the clients we audit is a national garbage company. The garbage men make $80k + overtime. Some make $100k. And they all have great benefits.

Maybe you're talking about custodians who take out the trash in office buildings afterhours?

 

[SouthPaW1227]

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[mordantmonkey]

Originally posted by: Kalbi
Yea, it's called capitalism. Get with it.

so you determine people's worth by the amount of money they make. have fun with that.

 

[Kalbi]

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey

Originally posted by: Kalbi
Yea, it's called capitalism. Get with it.

so you determine people's worth by the amount of money they make. have fun with that.

What the heck is your definition of "worth"? If you mean "net worth" than yes you calculate that with money. If you mean human worth, no there are more variables than money.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: SouthPaW1227
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[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Kalbi
are you kidding? garbage men make like $80k+ a year. I think it is a fair assumption that the more money you make the more productive you are. I.e. the entrepreneur who took risks and put a lot of effort in the beginning to provide 100 people jobs and provide a service/good to society. He is now sitting in the office surfing the web and you think he's unproductive, but in fact he took risks and put effort into creating the machine you call his business.

Actually, garbage men making $80k+ a year has nothing to do with how "productive" they are, but with the desirability of the job. The $80+k a year is an incentive to do an undesirable job. It's simple economics.