44% of people are idiots.

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Recent poll finds only 14 percent of Americans believe in Darwinian evolution

Holy crap..

These the same people that put a Democrat in the President's office?

christians are predominantly repubs.

Evolution is a crock. It didn't happen in 7 days, nor 10,000 years, but I can't reasonably accept all this occured randomly. Perhaps what we see as evolution was actually the process of creation. I dont know. I do know there's no chance in hell we just randomly got here.

 

[James Bond]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Well, for some, believing in "evolution" means admitting that humans evolved from apes, rather than via some divine creation, and that is enough to make them dismiss the entire concept.

These numbers do not surprise me.

Is the theory that we evolved from apes, or that we had the same common ancestors? I've heard both.

 

[halik]

ignorance is bliss....

 

[CycloWizard]

As I've pointed out previously, there is absolutely no scientific way to test whether the universe came into being 10k years ago during a creation event or 10 billion years ago due to a big bang. As long as the initial state of the creation event is the same as the predicted state of the big bang model at that time, both models predict identical futures. Thus, neither is a valid scientific hypothesis as neither can be tested to the exclusion of the other. This does not imply that evolution is false, nor that creationism is true.

 

[Pepsei]

an eternity to human is overnight for god.

 

[frostedflakes]

Look at how much smarter than us the rest of the world is

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: BW86
What makes more sense?

That we adapted to our environments over the span of millions of years or that some supernatural being created everything we see in 7 days....

:disgust:

Considering how many variables could be taken into consideration and how easily one or two things might have wiped out the entire species...

I don't believe in the 7 day theory, though I don't believe we did it all on our own either. No idea personally how it happened and I doubt anyone else can precisely say how we overcame certain barriers and reached certain milestones as a society to progress the way we did. Just a casual thought excersize reveals the enormous potential for extinction we as a species had over those millions of years.

There is a very important concept one has to understand to appreciate evolution. Looking backwards and trying to figure the odds is a fruitless exercise. In any sequence of highly improbable events there is an outcome and that outcome is one which (statistically) should not have happened. Looking at outcomes and saying the odds are so thin that it could not have happened without divine intervention is just putting faith into intuition over analysis.

I never stated diving intervention, I stated I did not know. Do you know precisely? You have just as much faith in a mathematical anomaly/improbability of occurring without intervention as people who believe in 7 days. Remember that.

It isn't faith, it's knowledege. If I shoot an arrow into the air, where it lands will be a statistical impossibility, but it has to land somewhere. That is a certainty. You're painting a target around the arrow and then telling me I must "have faith" that it hit the bullseye "by chance."

It may be a statistical impossibility that humans would eventually evolve, but SOMETHING was going to evolve no matter what.

Fuck I get sick of explaining this shit.

 

[JDub02]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Well, for some, believing in "evolution" means admitting that humans evolved from apes, rather than via some divine creation, and that is enough to make them dismiss the entire concept.

These numbers do not surprise me.

We didn't evolve from apes. We evolved from a common ancestor. Apes evolved on their own path.

I would contend that humans and apes have a common creator.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Recent poll finds only 14 percent of Americans believe in Darwinian evolution

Holy crap..

These the same people that put a Democrat in the President's office?

christians are predominantly repubs.

Evolution is a crock. It didn't happen in 7 days, nor 10,000 years, but I can't reasonably accept all this occured randomly. Perhaps what we see as evolution was actually the process of creation. I dont know. I do know there's no chance in hell we just randomly got here.

Which aspect of randomly getting here do you not think there is a chance in hell of?
The path which brought us to what we are now, or the initial spark that started off the first life?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard
As I've pointed out previously, there is absolutely no scientific way to test whether the universe came into being 10k years ago during a creation event or 10 billion years ago due to a big bang. As long as the initial state of the creation event is the same as the predicted state of the big bang model at that time, both models predict identical futures. Thus, neither is a valid scientific hypothesis as neither can be tested to the exclusion of the other. This does not imply that evolution is false, nor that creationism is true.

Complete and total bullshit, and demonstrates a woeful ignorance of the purpose and method of scientific investigation. Just STFU. S.T.F.U. :|

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Recent poll finds only 14 percent of Americans believe in Darwinian evolution

Holy crap..

These the same people that put a Democrat in the President's office?

christians are predominantly repubs.

Evolution is a crock. It didn't happen in 7 days, nor 10,000 years, but I can't reasonably accept all this occured randomly. Perhaps what we see as evolution was actually the process of creation. I dont know. I do know there's no chance in hell we just randomly got here.

Painting the target around the arrow. For a bunch of smart kids, a lot of you are pretty fucking stupid.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: JDub02

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Well, for some, believing in "evolution" means admitting that humans evolved from apes, rather than via some divine creation, and that is enough to make them dismiss the entire concept.

These numbers do not surprise me.

We didn't evolve from apes. We evolved from a common ancestor. Apes evolved on their own path.

I would contend that humans and apes have a common creator.

Well we have indisputable evidence of previously existing organisms reproducing with modification and operating under selection pressures.

You have campfire ghost stories. Believe what you want, I guess, but I'm gonna believe you're an idiot.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: mugs
Fortunately 99% of the population's opinions on evolution don't matter one bit. Not a scientist? Don't care.

What about a non-scientist member of the board of education deciding on textbook usage?

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Complete and total bullshit, and demonstrates a woeful ignorance of the purpose and method of scientific investigation. Just STFU. S.T.F.U. :|

Really, is it? Feel free to point out exactly what I said is either incorrect and/or demonstrative of "ignorance of the purpose of scientific investigation." Otherwise, I believe you need to STFU because I can actually demonstrate that I'm right, since it's actually a matter of math rather than science. Of course, if you had stayed in school as long as I did, you might already know this.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Complete and total bullshit, and demonstrates a woeful ignorance of the purpose and method of scientific investigation. Just STFU. S.T.F.U. :|

Really, is it? Feel free to point out exactly what I said is either incorrect and/or demonstrative of "ignorance of the purpose of scientific investigation." Otherwise, I believe you need to STFU because I can actually demonstrate that I'm right, since it's actually a matter of math rather than science. Of course, if you had stayed in school as long as I did, you might already know this.

No, really. Just stop. You can return to the conversation when you grow up and can handle adult conversations.

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Recent poll finds only 14 percent of Americans believe in Darwinian evolution

Holy crap..

These the same people that put a Democrat in the President's office?

christians are predominantly repubs.

Evolution is a crock. It didn't happen in 7 days, nor 10,000 years, but I can't reasonably accept all this occured randomly. Perhaps what we see as evolution was actually the process of creation. I dont know. I do know there's no chance in hell we just randomly got here.

I, for the life of me, can't figure out why you quoted that post.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: daniel1113
No, really. Just stop. You can return to the conversation when you grow up and can handle adult conversations.

That's about what I thought. A couple of internet smart guys are going to try to shout me down, telling me that I don't understand the methods of scientific inquiry, thereby demonstrating their own ignorance. Please tell me why what I said is wrong so I can have a good laugh at your expense.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Recent poll finds only 14 percent of Americans believe in Darwinian evolution

Holy crap..

These the same people that put a Democrat in the President's office?

I see what you did there...
:beer:

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Complete and total bullshit, and demonstrates a woeful ignorance of the purpose and method of scientific investigation. Just STFU. S.T.F.U. :|

Really, is it? Feel free to point out exactly what I said is either incorrect and/or demonstrative of "ignorance of the purpose of scientific investigation."

Everything you said was incorrect and so demonstrative.

Otherwise, I believe you need to STFU because I can actually demonstrate that I'm right, since it's actually a matter of math rather than science.

Oh, please, do elaborate.

Of course, if you had stayed in school as long as I did, you might already know this.

I'm sorry you worked so hard to learn so very little.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: daniel1113
No, really. Just stop. You can return to the conversation when you grow up and can handle adult conversations.

That's about what I thought. A couple of internet smart guys are going to try to shout me down, telling me that I don't understand the methods of scientific inquiry, thereby demonstrating their own ignorance. Please tell me why what I said is wrong so I can have a good laugh at your expense.

Would you like me to disprove that god exists, too?

You have to prove your argument, or at least present some evidence, if you want us to take you seriously.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard
As I've pointed out previously, there is absolutely no scientific way to test whether the universe came into being 10k years ago during a creation event or 10 billion years ago due to a big bang. As long as the initial state of the creation event is the same as the predicted state of the big bang model at that time, both models predict identical futures. Thus, neither is a valid scientific hypothesis as neither can be tested to the exclusion of the other. This does not imply that evolution is false, nor that creationism is true.

Technically true, but Occam's Razor is hawking a big fat lugey in your face.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Gibsons

Originally posted by: mugs
Fortunately 99% of the population's opinions on evolution don't matter one bit. Not a scientist? Don't care.

What about a non-scientist member of the board of education deciding on textbook usage?

You have a point there; that's a related issue of people trying to use the government to impose their religion on others, which I oppose.

But still, the opinions held by the overwhelming majority of the population don't make a bit of difference. They aren't hindering science, because they aren't impacting science.

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
I do know there's no chance in hell we just randomly got here.

no. you. don't.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Gibsons

Originally posted by: mugs
Fortunately 99% of the population's opinions on evolution don't matter one bit. Not a scientist? Don't care.

What about a non-scientist member of the board of education deciding on textbook usage?

Yup; and that's the problem. You'd think the decision in Dover (a federal mandate) had severely crippled the anti-science movement in public education, but that does not seem to be the case

 

[Kev]

Reading shit like this makes me sick to my stomach. I honestly can't comprehend how people can be this fucking dumb.