46% of Americans believe human beings were created in the past 10,000 years.

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totalnoob

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Jul 17, 2009
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The weird part is that the bible doesn't tell us how old the Earth is or how long humans have been around.

Actually it does. The gospel of Luke traces the genealogy of Jesus all the way back to Adam. The lifespan of each person is also given in the bible and when you add them all up, it turns out that Adam was created in 4004BC. Problem is that we have records of civilization going back much further than that. So even if someone only accepts the NT, they are still stuck with a young earth model.
 

Nemesis 1

Lifer
Dec 30, 2006
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Actually Thats because you don't understand what your reading . Adam was not the first man . Adam was the first FREE man .
 

edro

Lifer
Apr 5, 2002
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You can literally walk into your back yard and pick up a rock with SEA SHELL FOSSILS in it.
 

SagaLore

Elite Member
Dec 18, 2001
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Actually it does. The gospel of Luke traces the genealogy of Jesus all the way back to Adam. The lifespan of each person is also given in the bible and when you add them all up, it turns out that Adam was created in 4004BC. Problem is that we have records of civilization going back much further than that. So even if someone only accepts the NT, they are still stuck with a young earth model.

Weak assumptions. You have to assume each day of creation started and ended in order. Then you have to assume that Eve was created shortly after Adam. Then you have to assume that they fell not too long after, and then assume again they started procreating immediately. Finally you have to assume that Luke was more correct than Matthew, since the genealogies don't exactly match. When reading the NT, you're looking at different men's perspectives and interactions with following Jesus. Starting off the gospel with Jesus' lineage isn't an observation, its just relaying information they had at the time.
 

SlitheryDee

Lifer
Feb 2, 2005
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Weak assumptions. You have to assume each day of creation started and ended in order. Then you have to assume that Eve was created shortly after Adam. Then you have to assume that they fell not too long after, and then assume again they started procreating immediately. Finally you have to assume that Luke was more correct than Matthew, since the genealogies don't exactly match. When reading the NT, you're looking at different men's perspectives and interactions with following Jesus. Starting off the gospel with Jesus' lineage isn't an observation, its just relaying information they had at the time.

You could use all the available information to establish an approximate maximum and minimum age for the earth though. I think that's why the count varies between 6000 and 10000 years depending on who you ask.
 

Sonikku

Lifer
Jun 23, 2005
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Who the hell cares? Nothing that happened before Jesus came along matters anyway. World might as well be only 2000 years old as far as any of us should be concerned.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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You don't realize how many people in this country are members of the flat Earth society.

for years i thought that was a joke. i looked it up last year and was amazed that people really think that the earth is flat..
 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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LOL, America.
You and those douchebag brothers from NZ that are members here sure seem to have a sense of superiority.

The statistics do suck though. Maybe some can be explained by people still believing in evolution but not realizing its in the hundreds of thousands of years, not tens.
 

gorcorps

aka Brandon
Jul 18, 2004
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Who the hell cares? Nothing that happened before Jesus came along matters anyway. World might as well be only 2000 years old as far as any of us should be concerned.

Right, because modern socienty doesn't make use of any of the stuff that have been forming in the earth over millions of years or anything.
 

Monster_Munch

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I went to university with a really intelligent bloke who was studying medicine and still didn't believe in evolution because of his religion. He's actually a doctor now. I always wondered how he explained things he has to deal with every day, like drug resistant bacteria for example, without evolution.
 

Jeff7

Lifer
Jan 4, 2001
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I went to university with a really intelligent bloke who was studying medicine and still didn't believe in evolution because of his religion. He's actually a doctor now. I always wondered how he explained things he has to deal with every day, like drug resistant bacteria for example, without evolution.
Probably one who's in the "microevolution is real, but macroevolution isn't" camp. I wonder if he believes in millimeters, but not meters.
 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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Probably one who's in the "microevolution is real, but macroevolution isn't" camp. I wonder if he believes in millimeters, but not meters.
LOL! I think you and Atomic Playboy are the lulziest posters on here.
 

Jeff7

Lifer
Jan 4, 2001
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Maybe he just thinks things can't evolve with "new" information. Conclusion: we all evolved from flowers.
http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2010/10/scienceshot-biggest-genome-ever.html
A rare Japanese flower named Paris japonica sports an astonishing 149 billion base pairs, making it 50 times the size of a human genome—and the largest genome ever found.
That's either a super-intelligent plant that's here to study us, or else it's just sorely in need of some code optimization.




LOL! I think you and Atomic Playboy are the lulziest posters on here.
The screwy thing is, that's what the "microevolution vs macroevolution" argument amounts to.

Small changes over several dozen generations of a life form are fine, but adding up a lot of little changes to yield big changes? That's just crazy talk.
 

Falcon98

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No big deal. I imagine the belief amongst the older population is much higher than the younger population and in time evolution will be accepted by the majority (in several decades).
 
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