46% of NASCAR fans don't like Toyota entering the Nextel Cup in 2007

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: Atomicus

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: isasir
What is the reasoning behind people not liking Toyota entering?

I just don't like Toyota and its their own fault. Their marketing department can kiss my ass.

On the other hand, I'd gladly buy a Silverado if I needed a full size truck

For statistical purposes, I drive a Japanese car

ROFL!!!

The last time I checked, people who want the best bang for their buck (the smart people) buy products that performce well, not because the products' commercials/marketing or bells and whistles are awesometothemax

Yes, product sells but their products are boring to me (and don't perform to my standards) and it certainly doesn't help that their marketing annoys me to no end.

You make it sound like I'd be stupid not to buy a Toyota since apparently everything else is crap.

EDIT: I'd rather have no marketing than pisses-me-off-to-no-end marketing.

id love to see a Silverado vs. F150 vs Titan on here. everyone who is into cars will admit that the domestic vehicles will win.

 

[Ricemarine]

Originally posted by: RCN
I'm not a nascar fan or a racist but it does sadden me a little to hear this. I can't really think of any "good" reason. I liked it better when it was a "southern sport" with American cars driven by "rednecks".

Well this is why you don't see many Americans go in the Grand Prix's against people like Schumacher and Montoya.

 

[RCN]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RCN
I liked it better when it was a "southern sport" with American cars driven by "rednecks".

Who do you think is down there in Kentucky building Camrys? Rednecks!

Hey don't get me wrong I have nothing against Toyota/ foreign cars.

 

[boyRacer]

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I'm not a biggot that still holds the Japanese's atrocities in WWII against them now. I just thought I'd let that be known now so you Toyota ass kissers won't chew me out.

Toyota does NOT belong in NASCAR. They never have, and never will have a place in this series. I don't care that many different makes of cars participate in Lemans and so on. These are INTERNATIONAL races.

I'm calling for all of the real NASCAR fans to show up at the 2007 Daytona 500 and incessantly boo Toyota drivers, snub, and show blatant disrespect to Toyota in general. Such as people raising awareness like holding huge American flags and signs that say Toyota go away. Show them we don't want them. And maybe if they see the people they are trying to advertise to will never buy a Toyota, they will stop this effort of advertising, seeing as it is without profit, trying to sell Toyota's to a brick wall, they will pull out alltogether.

LOL

 

[SampSon]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: SampSon
I thought in order to enter NASCAR you had to have a current product American car.

The Camry is built in Kentucky.

Chargers are built in Canada IIRC

I was under the impression the car had to be designed and produced by a domestic car company. Basically only the big 3.

Dodge is brand of a German based company and its Charger is built in Canada.
Toyota is a Japanese based company which builds its Camry in Kentucky.

It's a global economy...things change and NASCAR has to adapt.

True, but dodge was founded as an American company, not german.

I'm really not concerned where the cars are built though.
I'm not debating that NASCAR has to adapt, but I was just wondering if entry into nascar depended on some sort of American heritage.

 

[shoRunner]

in other news, 39% of NASCAR fans believe Jefferson Davis to be the true president.

 

[Rastus]

Like the world needs Toyotas on blocks in front of some redneck's trailer.

 

[alexjohnson16]

Originally posted by: shoRunner
in other news, 39% of NASCAR fans believe Jefferson Davis to be the true president.

In other news, 100% of you = moron.

 

[LordMorpheus]

Originally posted by: Baked

Originally posted by: SampSon
I thought in order to enter NASCAR you had to have a current product American car.

Originally posted by: NFS4

They build cars here in America.

Camry - Built by Americans
Corolla - same
Tundra - same
Tacoma - same
Sequoia - same
Avalon, Solara, Matrix - same

Toyota just built a new truck plant in Texas and just got approved to build a dev center in Detroit. Only an a$$ would deny them entry into NASCAR

Engineered in japan - that makes them foreign. As a mechanical engineering student its those jobs going overseas that directly worries me (not that I'm aiming at a career in the automotive business).

Anywho, I love watching highlights of rally races. Formula 1 is cool, but I like to watch rally races more - those drivers always seem to be on the verge of catastrophic wrecks (and lots of them do have them) and the next corner is always something new they haven't already driven over a few dozen times.

Still, when you watch racing, its best when its just the highlight reel - all the exciting things with none of the tedium. I enjoy watching rally drivers do their thing, but once I've seen and F1 car take the same line through the same corner 10 times it looses its magic. Besides, most F1 races are basically Raikkonen winning until his car breaks down then alonso wins.

 

[sandorski]

Wait until Volkswagen, Skoda, Yugo, and Lada get into NASCAR. It'll be like Red Dawn without the Soviet Military.

 

[BillyBatson]

Nascar fans are jsut scared knwoing they will lose. American cars suck.
"And maybe if they see the people they are trying to advertise to will never buy a Toyota" so this guy is saying that Nascar is just a giant ad right and NOT a sport???? I know it is one of the most boring things to watch on this earth but even i didn't think it was advertisign though watching a ford car with a diant ford logo painted on it go in circles 500 times is a good way of burning that image into the minds of.... morons.

 

[CrimsonChaos]

I believe the real reason a lot of NASCAR fans don't want Toyota entering the circuit is because they are "traditionalists" or die-hards.

If you've followed NASCAR at all, they have done several things recently to try to make the sport more marketable.

- First, they imposed a "lucky dog" rule where the first person a lap down gets their lap back.
- Then they changed the championship format into a "playoff" type system.
- They eliminated some tracks (i.e. the Rock) from their schedule because they don't generate enough revenue, and switched to a larger venue instead.
- They are even considering banning car sponsorships with "sexual' implications -- i.e. Viagara.

This is all to make the sport more appealing to the mass public. The hardcore NASCAR fans, however, don't like any of the above changes and probably see the Toyota invitation as another marketing ploy. NASCAR is a business like any other business, and they know the die-hards will keep watching. Now they want to appeal to everyone else.

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: AmdEmAll
I hope Toyota woops ass

QFT

 

[CaptnKirk]

46% of NASCAR fans don't like Toyota entering the Nextel Cup

so what, 80 % of NASCAR fans have less than 10 teeth.

 

[Drakkon]

its funny how people here that say they dont want japanese influence in NASCAR are racist yet the majority of remarks here are how NASCAR fans are "rednecks" or some other implication, which frankly i find rather insulting and demeaning and frankly rather racist as well, as I'm a fan of NASCAR that has roots in the south. Sure maybe I am a redneck but not in the derogitory and insulting way you people are saying it :|

So 46% of the fans want to keep the sport american with companies that have american roots, a majority of those fans either have family or grew up with family that woked in the orignial ford, dodge, etc plants that were based in America. To me thats all this fight is about, keeping NASCAR engrained in american tradition, I think every nascar fan knows the cars themselves are no longer american anymore, but the Names Ford, Dodge, Pontiac, Chevy are. To me its like the americans compeating in soccer, the world didnt take us seriously but once we started winning games the world started embracing us more. I'm sure the same thing will happen once Toyota enters nascar, but at first its going to be like "wtf are these guys doing here, they dont belong"

 

[0roo0roo]

no point joining nascar. for what? its not a hotbed for technological innovation pushing american car makers ahead of the competition or anything its just a buncha hicks, and american car makers have catered to their lousy tastes and thats one reason why they've fallen behind

 

[da loser]

Originally posted by: Drakkon
its funny how people here that say they dont want japanese influence in NASCAR are racist yet the majority of remarks here are how NASCAR fans are "rednecks" or some other implication, which frankly i find rather insulting and demeaning and frankly rather racist as well, as I'm a fan of NASCAR that has roots in the south. Sure maybe I am a redneck but not in the derogitory and insulting way you people are saying it :|

So 46% of the fans want to keep the sport american with companies that have american roots, a majority of those fans either have family or grew up with family that woked in the orignial ford, dodge, etc plants that were based in America. To me thats all this fight is about, keeping NASCAR engrained in american tradition, I think every nascar fan knows the cars themselves are no longer american anymore, but the Names Ford, Dodge, Pontiac, Chevy are. To me its like the americans compeating in soccer, the world didnt take us seriously but once we started winning games the world started embracing us more. I'm sure the same thing will happen once Toyota enters nascar, but at first its going to be like "wtf are these guys doing here, they dont belong"

:thumbsup:

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: da loser

Originally posted by: Drakkon
its funny how people here that say they dont want japanese influence in NASCAR are racist yet the majority of remarks here are how NASCAR fans are "rednecks" or some other implication, which frankly i find rather insulting and demeaning and frankly rather racist as well, as I'm a fan of NASCAR that has roots in the south. Sure maybe I am a redneck but not in the derogitory and insulting way you people are saying it :|

So 46% of the fans want to keep the sport american with companies that have american roots, a majority of those fans either have family or grew up with family that woked in the orignial ford, dodge, etc plants that were based in America. To me thats all this fight is about, keeping NASCAR engrained in american tradition, I think every nascar fan knows the cars themselves are no longer american anymore, but the Names Ford, Dodge, Pontiac, Chevy are. To me its like the americans compeating in soccer, the world didnt take us seriously but once we started winning games the world started embracing us more. I'm sure the same thing will happen once Toyota enters nascar, but at first its going to be like "wtf are these guys doing here, they dont belong"

:thumbsup:

Oh, but when I said that someone quoted me and said owned?

 

[BDawg]

I'm not a racist, I love japanese culture, and I love my Toyota. However, I'm not sure I like Toyota in NASCAR.

 

[Shlong]

Kind of like Jackie Robinson entering baseball. That's a different scenario but somewhat similar in that people didn't want them in initially but will gradually accept it. As the times change so will people's acceptance.

 

[EXman]

Darrell Waltrip will be the savior! He said he's there and will have his own Napa Toyota in 2007. Camry's are made right here in Georgetown Ky and they are a great employer. GM /ford needs to take a fieldtrip to the bluegrass. I'd love to get a White Chevy HHr though I cannot find one anywhere. even online.

 

[frankie38]

gee..toyota wants to kick gm and fords butt on the track too!

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
Eff Toyota. Never liked them coming into the Truck series and definitely don't like them coming into Cup.

Originally posted by: BDawg
I'm not a racist, I love japanese culture, and I love my Toyota. However, I'm not sure I like Toyota in NASCAR.

Why?

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: LordMorpheus

Originally posted by: Baked

Originally posted by: SampSon
I thought in order to enter NASCAR you had to have a current product American car.

Originally posted by: NFS4

They build cars here in America.

Camry - Built by Americans
Corolla - same
Tundra - same
Tacoma - same
Sequoia - same
Avalon, Solara, Matrix - same

Toyota just built a new truck plant in Texas and just got approved to build a dev center in Detroit. Only an a$$ would deny them entry into NASCAR

Engineered in japan - that makes them foreign. As a mechanical engineering student its those jobs going overseas that directly worries me (not that I'm aiming at a career in the automotive business).

Uhh, most of the vehicles that Toyota builds for the American market are designed an engineered at Toyota's design/engineering studios in the United States (Camry, Avalon, Tundra, Sequoia, Sienna, FJ Cruiser, etc). The new studio in Detroit will also be adding to that mix.

Nice try!

 

[sandorski]

Hmm, it's a good idea to let foreing manufacturers in for this reason: If GM/Ford go under, or even if they pullout due to cost cutting, all you'd have left is Mopar(though Mopar RULES!! ). Then what you gonna do, watch Dodges going in circles all day?