4770 reviews thread

[AstroManLuca]

See, those reviews just make me more inclined to go for the GTS 250. It's only slightly more expensive and for the games he plays it's faster. By the time I actually buy it (about a month from now; his birthday is in early June), prices may fall a little more.

While I'm not crazy about nVidia's rebadging practices, the GTS 250/9800GTX+ is still a good video card.

 

[Wreckage]

TR review is up
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/16820

 

[Rick James]

Originally posted by: kmmatney

Originally posted by: Rick James
Xfire on stock clocks boys

http://i725.photobucket.com/al...52/2MCHBoost/xfire.jpg

Anyone think i could hit 30K with Trifire?

Impressive! From what I've seen so far, these things seem very efficent in Crossfire. One review had these in crossfire averaging 20% faster than an HD4890. You'd have to overclock the HD4890 to its max to keep up (not to mention the 4770 can be overclocked as well).

Two of these are the new HD4850x2! I would think that they would be coming out with a 7440x2 version soon (although it would directly compete with the HD4890)....

I don't think they'll be coming out with an X2 because this is a "Budget" card. I'm really interested in seeing what this thing can do in Trifire.

 

[edplayer]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
While I'm not crazy about nVidia's rebadging practices, the GTS 250/9800GTX+ is still a good video card.

Yes

still a good card. I have seen them as low as $110 after rebate (PNY brand, or $120 AR XFX brand) (both with COD:WAW) free shipping

if you keep checking hot deals here or slickdeals you will find a deal under $100 before June

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: Jetster
yep, decent upgrade from my 9600gt as well, but i'll wait for HIS IceQ version 4770 to come out...

I am waiting for the HIS ICEQ 4770 to be released as well, imagine how high it might overclock with ICEQ cooling

 

[Rick James]

So i picked up a 3rd 4770 to go for 30K and guess who doesn't have a 3rd PCI express slot?

24,696 with just a Core clock increase to 830 for the 4770's in Xfire. A change of 1017 over stock clocks in X

 

[CrystalBay]

Media edition Vs Retail edition

Their website is slow takes a while to load...

 

[solofly]

Me want two of these XFX style but only with 1gb of vram... (any chance they might not release one?)

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: CrystalBay
Media edition Vs Retail edition

Their website is slow takes a while to load...

Is this the same info you posted?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=223328


I just read it myself. Apparently the reference 4770 has more 10 caps and 4 more VRMs than the retail channel cards we've seen so far. Typically, you'll see blank spots for VRMs and caps on both retail boards and reference designs. I think they're there to help engineers with stability. They overdesign for what they think they'll need, then test for whatever the target clock speeds they are going to be running and remove caps/VRMs that aren't needed for stability at those speeds. But usually the cards sent to reviewers and the cards available through retail outlets have the same number.

I haven't done any overclocking comparison between what people are getting from retail cards and what websites with reference cards were getting. Is there any appreciable difference? If not, then I guess they weren't really necessary. If there is a noticeable difference, then :thumbsdown: to AMD for sending out cards for review that won't OC as well as a retail card.

 

[CrystalBay]

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: CrystalBay
Media edition Vs Retail edition

Their website is slow takes a while to load...

Is this the same info you posted?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=223328


I just read it myself. Apparently the reference 4770 has more 10 caps and 4 more VRMs than the retail channel cards we've seen so far. Typically, you'll see blank spots for VRMs and caps on both retail boards and reference designs. I think they're there to help engineers with stability. They overdesign for what they think they'll need, then test for whatever the target clock speeds they are going to be running and remove caps/VRMs that aren't needed for stability at those speeds. But usually the cards sent to reviewers and the cards available through retail outlets have the same number.

I haven't done any overclocking comparison between what people are getting from retail cards and what websites with reference cards were getting. Is there any appreciable difference? If not, then I guess they weren't really necessary. If there is a noticeable difference, then :thumbsdown: to AMD for sending out cards for review that won't OC as well as a retail card.

No thats not me, Any how if I were buying I'd look for the beefier version card myself...

And yes I agree with bait and switch tactics, very poor AMD... Do they think enthusiasts are blind...Hopefully the ASUS top card that reportedly tops out near 1Ghz using voltage tweak, will show its face soon...

 

[Vortex22]

Ok, so I just popped my 4770 in, and using the drivers from the CD (there doesn't appear to be any on the ati site yet), Tray Tools is saying no supported hardware found. I didn't install CC, so I have no way of seeing the temps or changing fan speeds. How did you guys get atit to work with this card?

 

[nyker96]

Just heard that Asus announcing a TOP version preoverclocked. but the best part is gpu/mem voltages can be adjusted from .95v to 1.2v and auas cliaming, under those new voltages, you can oc the core from 800 to north of 950, mem from 850 to about 1100+. now if that is true, this card can really beat out even the 4850s by a margin.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: nyker96
Just heard that Asus announcing a TOP version preoverclocked. but the best part is gpu/mem voltages can be adjusted from .95v to 1.2v and auas cliaming, under those new voltages, you can oc the core from 800 to north of 950, mem from 850 to about 1100+. now if that is true, this card can really beat out even the 4850s by a margin.

yeah but what kind of premium are we going to have to pay to get this? If its only $10 more then maybe, otherwise we'd be starting to venture into 1GB 4850 or 512MB 4870 territory...

 

[Stoneburner]

To whoever has this card: How long is it relative to a 3800 series?

 

[yacoub]

I'd love to see a passively-cooled 256-bit version of this card, especially since widening it back to 256bit instead of 128bit would allow them to lower the clockspeeds and keep as much bandwidth as the 128bit at higher clocks. the lower speeds in turn would allow them to run less voltage, which equals a cooler card, which means passively cooled without having it toast itself to death like so many passively cooled cards are wont to do. and with lower voltage it might even squeak by under 75v and no longer need the extra power connector. wow that would rock.

 

[bryanW1995]

well, judging by newegg it doesn't appear to be flying off the shelf. In fact, it almost feels like this card is the answer to a question nobody asked: "Can I PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get 4840 performance at 40nm for the same price as a 4850? Oh, and can it be dual slot instead of single slot? Yeah, and make it 128 bit, too?"

 

[MrK6]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
well, judging by newegg it doesn't appear to be flying off the shelf. In fact, it almost feels like this card is the answer to a question nobody asked: "Can I PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get 4840 performance at 40nm for the same price as a 4850? Oh, and can it be dual slot instead of single slot? Yeah, and make it 128 bit, too?"

Or they might have many more cards available on launch (as opposed to some of the recent releases from both companies); it's hard to tell without sales data. In the end, ATI is just modernizing its line-up - they produced a great card that owns the $100 price market in performance and power savings, and that's cheaper for them to produce, and pretty much improves in every way their previous offerings in the bracket. Honestly, what were you expecting?

 

[lookouthere]

next generation of 5600series probably will have 800 and 128bits at 40nm if that's what ATI playing with

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
well, judging by newegg it doesn't appear to be flying off the shelf. In fact, it almost feels like this card is the answer to a question nobody asked: "Can I PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get 4840 performance at 40nm for the same price as a 4850? Oh, and can it be dual slot instead of single slot? Yeah, and make it 128 bit, too?"

Almost everyone has 8800gt level of performance by now. 4770 does nothing for people. Why would it fly off shelves? Makes no sense when there's so much competition in the $100 bracket even before 4770.

4850, 4830, 9800gt, 9800gtx, GTS 250, and now 4770 was released.

It's a good card if you are building a nice mainstream computer now or HTPC but for upgrading GPU? It does nothing for most people.

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
well, judging by newegg it doesn't appear to be flying off the shelf. In fact, it almost feels like this card is the answer to a question nobody asked: "Can I PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get 4840 performance at 40nm for the same price as a 4850? Oh, and can it be dual slot instead of single slot? Yeah, and make it 128 bit, too?"

The 4770 isn't the answer to a question formulated by consumers, but rather by AMD themselves. The question was, "How can we make a card with 4850 level of performance, cheaper". At 40nm and 128-bit, I would imagine their profit margins will be even higher than those from the 4850.

 

[nyker96]

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
well, judging by newegg it doesn't appear to be flying off the shelf. In fact, it almost feels like this card is the answer to a question nobody asked: "Can I PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get 4840 performance at 40nm for the same price as a 4850? Oh, and can it be dual slot instead of single slot? Yeah, and make it 128 bit, too?"

Almost everyone has 8800gt level of performance by now. 4770 does nothing for people. Why would it fly off shelves? Makes no sense when there's so much competition in the $100 bracket even before 4770.

4850, 4830, 9800gt, 9800gtx, GTS 250, and now 4770 was released.

It's a good card if you are building a nice mainstream computer now or HTPC but for upgrading GPU? It does nothing for most people.

I think azn has a point on this one here. most people is about 8800gt//4830s//4850s by now. except myself (still on a 8800gt/256) but that's besides the point. But wait, if AMD and partner can somehow bring that performance to about $80 level. well I think many with 9600gso//8800gt-256s will upgrade, myself included. if you ask me to dish out 100-110 I would just save up and get a gtx260-216 for 150AR.

 

[Rick James]

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
well, judging by newegg it doesn't appear to be flying off the shelf. In fact, it almost feels like this card is the answer to a question nobody asked: "Can I PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get 4840 performance at 40nm for the same price as a 4850? Oh, and can it be dual slot instead of single slot? Yeah, and make it 128 bit, too?"

Almost everyone has 8800gt level of performance by now. 4770 does nothing for people. Why would it fly off shelves? Makes no sense when there's so much competition in the $100 bracket even before 4770.

4850, 4830, 9800gt, 9800gtx, GTS 250, and now 4770 was released.

It's a good card if you are building a nice mainstream computer now or HTPC but for upgrading GPU? It does nothing for most people.

I disagree azn but you do make a good point. This card is for people who won't want to pay the high prices of 300+ for good graphic performance. Shit i was blown away by how good this card is without crossfire. Adding crossfire just sweetens the deal.

Some people look at this card and see "Budget". I look at it and see opportunity. As soon as i saw the specs on this card i knew it was going in my system. Why? Simple. Price. Some people run GTX 285s with Dual core Amd's. I'd much rather run a budget GPU with a high end processor.

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: Rick James

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
well, judging by newegg it doesn't appear to be flying off the shelf. In fact, it almost feels like this card is the answer to a question nobody asked: "Can I PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get 4840 performance at 40nm for the same price as a 4850? Oh, and can it be dual slot instead of single slot? Yeah, and make it 128 bit, too?"

Almost everyone has 8800gt level of performance by now. 4770 does nothing for people. Why would it fly off shelves? Makes no sense when there's so much competition in the $100 bracket even before 4770.

4850, 4830, 9800gt, 9800gtx, GTS 250, and now 4770 was released.

It's a good card if you are building a nice mainstream computer now or HTPC but for upgrading GPU? It does nothing for most people.

I disagree azn but you do make a good point. This card is for people who won't want to pay the high prices of 300+ for good graphic performance. Shit i was blown away by how good this card is without crossfire. Adding crossfire just sweetens the deal.

Some people look at this card and see "Budget". I look at it and see opportunity. As soon as i saw the specs on this card i knew it was going in my system. Why? Simple. Price. Some people run GTX 285s with Dual core Amd's. I'd much rather run a budget GPU with a high end processor.

Heh. You're the exception. You built a new system.

IF people wanted to go dual card it would be financially sound if you added another g92, g94, 4850, 4830, etc... instead of selling your old card and go dual 4770.

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: Azn

It's a good card if you are building a nice mainstream computer now or HTPC but for upgrading GPU? It does nothing for most people.

Most cards doing nothing for most people. At least I haven't ever seen one that got 50% of the market. Mainstream is called that because it appeals to a relatively large crowd.

Actually I have been tempted as an upgrade.

 

[gregor7777]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that a 128-bit card is consistently beating the 256-bit 4830 in benchmarks, even given the higher clocks. I haven't been following the video card releases lately, but has memory bandwidth become less of an issue than it used to be?